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Dennis

On Feb 27, 9:23 pm, habe...@lycos.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJBDNucAws&feature=related

Dennis

It's still a bunch of Moo-slums.
In the "Maitreyasmiti Texts in Tocharian A", the Living Buddha

On Feb 28, 6:30 pm, "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki"<sector_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 27, 9:23 pm, habe...@lycos.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJBDNucAws&feature=related

Dennis

It's still a bunch of Moo-slums.

In the "Maitreyasmiti Texts in Tocharian A", the Living Buddha
discusses with the Gautamid queen of Kucha what we now call mysogeny.
They also make reference to those causing the problem, the "arrogant
Sakyas". Who are the jackasses still running Iran, and the various -
stans. I grant that Iranians speak an Aryan language, but Aryan
culture, going back at least to the Cucuteni of the Danube Delta,
always respected women, and was often led by them. Most notoriously by
the Amazons.

They have, BTW, discovered bronze age women buried with weapons in
Iran. But for the 5000 years since, the place has been run by alpha
male egos, and the smarter Aryans went back north to Russia, Ukraine,
and Europe.

I think it speaks volumes about the nature of the men in a culture who
can follow a prophet with a 9 year old wife, and then believe him when
he tells the Jihadim that they get to spend eternity in his Wholy
Whorehouse fucking 12 year old virgins. One of the things it says is a
bad case of testosterone overdose. A genetic disease.

I think it speaks volumes about the nature of the men in a culture who
can follow a prophet with a 9 year old wife, and then believe him when
he tells the Jihadim that they get to spend eternity in his Wholy
Whorehouse fucking 12 year old virgins. One of the things it says is a
bad case of testosterone overdose. A genetic disease.

As many have asked: 'Where do these 12 year old virgins come from?'
Why do Moslems believe these girls would want to get tapped by these
greasy, pawing oldtimers? We see that Allah has never said this
kind of thing will happen. These dirty old men put the words in
Allah's mouth, as all god-people do of their Guys. Very convenient.

Whatever they want, the Gods want, not the other way around.
I do not think we can know. But Mohammet, like so many other leaders,

On Feb 29, 8:49 pm, "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki"<sector_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think it speaks volumes about the nature of the men in a culture who
can follow a prophet with a 9 year old wife, and then believe him when
he tells the Jihadim that they get to spend eternity in his Wholy
Whorehouse fucking 12 year old virgins. One of the things it says is a
bad case of testosterone overdose. A genetic disease.

As many have asked: 'Where do these 12 year old virgins come from?'
Why do Moslems believe these girls would want to get tapped by these
greasy, pawing oldtimers? We see that Allah has never said this
kind of thing will happen. These dirty old men put the words in
Allah's mouth, as all god-people do of their Guys. Very convenient.

Whatever they want, the Gods want, not the other way around.

I do not think we can know. But Mohammet, like so many other leaders,
was trapped to some extent by his followers into being, and saying,
what they expect. And in his case, they were ignorant nomadic savages
which he used, understandably, to topple a corrupt Byzantine system.

Part of the problem the alpha male warrior classes have always had was
the attitude that the womb was simply the room in which their seed
grew. Part of the advantage the Aryans always had was that Aryan women
had far more choice in sperm donors, and selected men of talent over
the dipshits. Chinese women also always had more power in their
civilization than seen in the Levant or Africa. Both Europe and China
have had many remarkably powerful and effective queens, whereas you
havta go all the way back to pre-Islamic Egypt and the Queen of Sheba
to find any there.

The alpha males have routinely sent challenging daughters into
nunneries, taking them out of the gene pool, then breeding with the
stupid, thinking they were easier to manage. As a result, the sons
lacked the talent of the fathers, and we see the cumulative result
repeatedly in history.

The pagan Vikings routinely lived in communal longhouses. When they
went a viking, they armed their women and left women equipped to
defend their own interests. While gone, the women of course could
choose who to breed with, which was the men who were less interested
in warfare and what we now call social predation. The Vikings who
left, who succeeded, commonly stayed to rule, taking them out of the
Nordic gene pools. We see the cumulative effect of that in
Scandinavian culture today.

This does not mean that they could not defend their own interests.
Nowhere is this more clear in that of all the Axis powers, only the
Fins were able to resist the Soviets. The problem the alpha males
have, seen in the Jihadim, is attitude. Too many chiefs, not enuf
Indians. Men inherit the drive to want to dominate, but with airhead
mothers, lack the talent to do so. The only way to control them is
with draconian force. which is why the Islamic cultures have never
been able to setup and run a democratic republic with the necessary
compromise and rule of law.

Their book is the Koran aka the Korank-i-stank
Their god is All-yay-hoo
Moe-Ham-mud is the profit
The virgins they get are all 5'1" 296 lbs.
That's fine with them. And the pelvic structure needed to carry that

On Mar 2, 12:25 am, "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki"<sector_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Their book is the Koran aka the Korank-i-stank
Their god is All-yay-hoo
Moe-Ham-mud is the profit
The virgins they get are all 5'1" 296 lbs.

That's fine with them. And the pelvic structure needed to carry that
much weight makes for nice tight pussies. Look at the early porn. All
the whores are chubby. Back then the men knew that the skinny bitches
didnt have the hormones to get off on sex.

On Feb 28, 6:30 pm, "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki"<sector_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 27, 9:23 pm, habe...@lycos.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJBDNucAws&feature=related

Dennis

It's still a bunch of Moo-slums.

In the "Maitreyasmiti Texts in Tocharian A", the Living Buddha
discusses with the Gautamid queen of Kucha what we now call mysogeny.
They also make reference to those causing the problem, the "arrogant
Sakyas". Who are the jackasses still running Iran, and the various -
stans.

I grant that Iranians speak an Aryan language, but Aryan
culture, going back at least to the Cucuteni of the Danube Delta,
always respected women, and was often led by them. Most notoriously by
the Amazons.

They have, BTW, discovered bronze age women buried with weapons in
Iran. But for the 5000 years since, the place has been run by alpha
male egos, and the smarter Aryans went back north to Russia, Ukraine,
and Europe.

I think it speaks volumes about the nature of the men in a culture who
can follow a prophet with a 9 year old wife, and then believe him when
he tells the Jihadim that they get to spend eternity in his Wholy
Whorehouse fucking 12 year old virgins. One of the things it says is a
bad case of testosterone overdose. A genetic disease.

On Feb 28, 11:10 pm, Day Brown <daybr...@hughes.net> wrote:

On Feb 28, 6:30 pm, "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki"<sector_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 27, 9:23 pm, habe...@lycos.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJBDNucAws&feature=related

Dennis

It's still a bunch of Moo-slums.

In the "Maitreyasmiti Texts in Tocharian A", the Living Buddha
discusses with the Gautamid queen of Kucha what we now call mysogeny.
They also make reference to those causing the problem, the "arrogant
Sakyas". Who are the jackasses still running Iran, and the various -
stans.

Not likely.. the Sakas were the Scythians to the north.
Ji Xianlin, the Chinese translator, one of their most respected and

I grant that Iranians speak an Aryan language, but Aryan
culture, going back at least to the Cucuteni of the Danube Delta,
always respected women, and was often led by them. Most notoriously by
the Amazons.

???
The Cucuteni was a pre 'ayrian' culture, mesolithic not even
chalcolithic .
'Old European' according to Gimbutas - not patralineal like the
'Ayrians'.
And the 'amazons' lived on the eastern shore of the Black Sea.
Surf Tripolye & the Cucuteni; both Mallory and the Ukrainian

They have, BTW, discovered bronze age women buried with weapons in
Iran. But for the 5000 years since, the place has been run by alpha
male egos, and the smarter Aryans went back north to Russia, Ukraine,
and Europe.

I think it speaks volumes about the nature of the men in a culture who
can follow a prophet with a 9 year old wife, and then believe him when
he tells the Jihadim that they get to spend eternity in his Wholy
Whorehouse fucking 12 year old virgins. One of the things it says is a
bad case of testosterone overdose. A genetic disease.

Just think of it as local preference in pre-literate patralineal
cultures; just like smiting Somodites and Gomoro-ites elsewhere..
Whatever the prevailing local desire might be.
Just think of the almost universal preference to pander to patralineal

On Mar 3, 9:31 pm, lorad...@cs.com wrote:

Not likely.. the Sakas were the Scythians to the north.

Ji Xianlin, the Chinese translator, one of their most respected and
honored scholars, calls them "Sakyas". That some called by the name
were as you say does not limit the class.

We see the same problem with
"Sarmatian", who Roman general Proculus tried to pass off as those he
had defeated across the Danube, when in fact, the real Sarmatians were
a horse culture in the Caucuses.

I grant that Iranians speak an Aryan language, but Aryan
culture, going back at least to the Cucuteni of the Danube Delta,
always respected women, and was often led by them. Most notoriously by
the Amazons.

???
The Cucuteni was a pre 'ayrian' culture, mesolithic not even
chalcolithic .
'Old European' according to Gimbutas - not patralineal like the
'Ayrians'.
And the 'amazons' lived on the eastern shore of the Black Sea.

Surf Tripolye & the Cucuteni; both Mallory and the Ukrainian
archeaologists see them as taking over from the Kurgans in the upper
Dneipr to found this industrial zone in the late 5th mil early 4th.

Its hard to date cause the Cucuteni only did timber frame and places
along the river got burnt out from time to time. It was easier to just
move operations up or down the river a little.

The Cucuteni agriculture and commercial enterprises brought in so many
people, kinda like Hudson Bay co. that the few nomadic/hunting Kurgans
could not cope with them, and besides, the Kurgan tribes wanted to
trade livestock for manufactured goods.

They have, BTW, discovered bronze age women buried with weapons in
Iran. But for the 5000 years since, the place has been run by alpha
male egos, and the smarter Aryans went back north to Russia, Ukraine,
and Europe.

I think it speaks volumes about the nature of the men in a culture who
can follow a prophet with a 9 year old wife, and then believe him when
he tells the Jihadim that they get to spend eternity in his Wholy
Whorehouse fucking 12 year old virgins. One of the things it says is a
bad case of testosterone overdose. A genetic disease.

Just think of it as local preference in pre-literate patralineal
cultures; just like smiting Somodites and Gomoro-ites elsewhere..
Whatever the prevailing local desire might be.
Just think of the almost universal preference to pander to patralineal
power structures in what you think is history.

I base my description of what was going on on the Steppes by the
principle that "might makes right". And in this case, as shown by the
cover of JP Mallory's "In Search of the Indo-Europeans", military
might belonged to light framed descendants of the Cucuteni women, who
Mallory says were "gracile", mounted in vast hordes of Amazon archers
like the one on the cover of his book.

Examine the early horse. Only 137 cm at the withers with a sharp
backbone like a goat or deer. In the heat of battle, even if such a
pony could carry a warrior, that backbone would have crushed his
balls. It was only after larger horses with flatter backs, the saddle,
and the stirrup, were developed that male cavalry was useful. The
problem initially was attempted with Chariots, but more recent work
suggests that these were prestige items, and looked a lot more deadly
than they actually were. Which Alexander fully understood in his
defeat of Persian Chariots.

We do have a severe nomenclature problem. "The Early Slavs" by Barford
makes mention of how the names were spun both before, and then after
the Iron curtain fell, and then how each ethnicity tries to claim
ancestry even tho the DNA data is very ambiguous. Nobody was carrying
green cards, and there were no border checkpoints. Men got pissed at
the old man, and split for other parts.

Like the male skeleton found in England whose minerals in his teeth
revealed he grew up on the shores of mediterranean a couple thousand
years ago. And where the hell did the Kennewic man come from?
Something like "Papillion" has always been going on stirring the gene
pools.

There is this however, EW Barber, "the Mummies of Urumchi" shows us
white people, buried in China 1500 - 4000 years ago wearing Celtic
clothes. The weaving & dying is Celtic. Some is even in classic
Tartan. The DNA of the wool comes from European lines of sheep. And
now, since she published, the Chinese have permitted the DNA of the
Tocharians themselves to be looked at, which matches that of Slavs
still living in SE Europe.

Barber says the Tocharians happened to be that group that got on the
Steppes and just kept heading East without mixing much with other
tribes along the way. To arrive in the Taklamakhan 4000 years ago. A
journey that took a couple thousand years in a general random walk.
But however they got there, it was with bronze, the wheel, the horse,
cart, and other technologies that Barber says introduced Indo-European
root words to Shang.

M. Gimbutas, "The Goddesses & Gods of Old Europe" shows us maps that
distinguish between the Vinca, Tisza, & Cucuteni, going east from what
is now the South German border to the Black Sea. But the maps are a
confusing mess with some names that carry forward like the Cucuteni,
but others like the Petresti & Hvar which dont. Like modern nations,
they came and went. The Urkrainian archeologists seem to agree that
what they have at Tripolye is Cucuteni, and that, for a time anyway,
they displaced the Kurgans. Gimbutas notes Kurgan building stopped for
a millennia.

I doubt that those who began again building the mounds for their
warrior chiefs were the same direct descendants; its a common form
that appears repeatedly all over the world. Whatever the later Kurgans
were, the earlier were a primitive bunch of disunited tribes with
chronic warfare, which is why there were so many monuments to warriors
in the first place. And they were dispossessed by the Cucuteni who
were more mercantile and united. There are *no* monuments to Cucuteni
warchiefs.

And all we really have are the artifacts in trade. We dont have enough
skeletons to trace who moved where. Barford mentions the habit of
funeral pyres among the Slavs and undefined others in the area that
leave this whole question hanging out there. But we see how modern
culture today permeates all parts of the globe and is taken up by some
who have no European DNA at all.

Just what the name of this Chalcolithic Mercantile Empire should be is
moot. I've seen 'Cucuteni' because they lasted the longest; Danubian,
but it also extended up the Dneipr and Dneister and over the
Transylvanians to the copper mines in Southern Germany. I could just
as well call it the CME and get as much agreement on the question.
Whatever it was, it was not a military empire. There's no capital
city, and no extensive set of defensive works. It also lasted for 4000
years. In the historical record we see the network of independent City
states along the Silk Road which far outlasted any of the empires that
from time to time tried to butt in on it.

One problem of the warrior class has always been the high cost of
management. These mercantile networks are capitalist free markets, and
they simply cant afford to waste time, energy, and money on building
monuments for chiefs and kings. They are rather amoeba like, if
pressed by an empire, give way, everyone gets out of dodge, and
thereby leaves an empty shell to the looters.

Your ability to gloss over and conflate disparate facts in arriving at
a novel response is impressive.
I am hard pressed to choose where to even start.. and believe I'll let
it slide this time.
Your position is that the warrior class ran virtually every culture

lorad...@cs.com wrote:
Your ability to gloss over and conflate disparate facts in arriving at
a novel response is impressive.
I am hard pressed to choose where to even start.. and believe I'll let
it slide this time.

Your position is that the warrior class ran virtually every culture
all thru history because you have not researched looking for any
exceptions. Given the vast number of examples that fit within your
point of view, reasonable.

But if you search, or even surf, you can find some few cultures that
were, and in fact still are, run by women. They are less than one in a
million, but they are here now, and always have been. The
domestication of the horse, the cart, the wheel, bronze, writing, and
stock breeding all emerged in SE Europe within a thousand years or so
of each other beginning in the 6th mil, and then spread across the
Steppe. That revolution changed cultures and values.

I have not argued that all Scythians, Sarmatians, Sakyas, Sogdians, et
al, were matriarchic, but among them are some few who had an economic
and cultural impact way beyond their numbers. Kucha, for instance,
never had more than 30,000- the same size as classic Athens. And
likewise, every literate scholar in China in the 1st mil AD knew about
it. Kucha was where the translations of Western texts came from.

The fact that 99.99% of Asia and Europe were run by the warrior class
does not detract from the lessons we can learn from these obscure
places run by women. And since women are obviously taking over, They
are researching these few examples of matriarchy. If you want to know
what the female leadership thinks, then take the time to find out for
yourself. You wont be able to stop what is coming down, but you can
get out of the way.