On Feb 27, 10:52 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola? Or... do you have a graphing
calculator? I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two. Can you plot: d = t^2? I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed. Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.

I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?

Not only taught, but experimentally tested and validated
by the student in high school.

I honestly think that NoEinstein doesn't understand that
there is supposed to be a connection between equations
and the real world.

- Randy

A small falling object near the Earth has a COASTING component carried
over from the previous second.  (1.) How much of the distance of fall
during each of seconds 2, 3, and 4 is due to coasting?  (2.) And how
much do those individual coasting distances, in seconds 2, 3, and 4,
contribute to the force of impact of the object?  (3.) Lastly, if you
believe, as I do, that coasting distances aren't contributing to the
force of impact in any second, then what is the sole determining
factor in the force of impact of a small unit mass?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847...

-- NoEinstein --

On Feb 27, 10:54 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --

Wouldn't it be great if you could do some simple experiments?

[...]

Eric: What...? Are my 'simple experiments' too complicated for you?

More and more I suspect that Eric has crammed before exams to pass
courses, then he promptly forgets everything in the course. That
could explain why he can't graph a parabola, or write a few simple
algebraic equations to verify that 'c' isn't the maximum velocity in
the universe. -- NoEinstein --

On Feb 27, 10:54 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs?  -- NoEinstein --

Wouldn't it be great if you could do some simple experiments?

[...]

Eric:  What...?  Are my 'simple experiments' too complicated for you?

More and more I suspect that Eric has crammed before exams to pass
courses, then he promptly forgets everything in the course.  That
could explain why he can't graph a parabola, or write a few simple
algebraic equations to verify that 'c' isn't the maximum velocity in
the universe.  -- NoEinstein --

On Feb 28, 9:44 am, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Feb 27, 10:52 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola?  Or... do you have a graphing
calculator?  I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two.  Can you plot: d = t^2?  I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed.  Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.

I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?

Not only taught, but experimentally tested and validated
by the student in high school.

I honestly think that NoEinstein doesn't understand that
there is supposed to be a connection between equations
and the real world.

              - Randy

Dear Randy:  My KE = a/g (m) + v/32.174 (m) correctly predicts the
"real world" drop height at which a small clevis pin's KE matches the
inertia (weight) of a larger clevis pin.  And my Z-Y-Z interferometer
detects the "real world" fringe shifts caused by the Earth's velocity
in the cosmos.

Have you ever done any successful "real world" scientific
experiments?  -- NoEinstein --- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

16 feet in first second
48 feet in second second

This does not fit the 32 feet persecond squared

On Feb 28, 9:44 am, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:



On Feb 27, 10:52 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola? Or... do you have a graphing
calculator? I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two. Can you plot: d = t^2? I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed. Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.

I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?

Not only taught, but experimentally tested and validated
by the student in high school.

I honestly think that NoEinstein doesn't understand that
there is supposed to be a connection between equations
and the real world.

Dear Randy: My KE = a/g (m) + v/32.174 (m) correctly predicts the
"real world" drop height at which a small clevis pin's KE matches the
inertia (weight) of a larger clevis pin.

And my Z-Y-Z interferometer
detects the "real world" fringe shifts caused by the Earth's velocity
in the cosmos.

Have you ever done any successful "real world" scientific
experiments?

16 feet in first second
48 feet in second second

This does not fit the 32 feet persecond squared

On Feb 26, 6:26 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

A small falling object near the Earth has a COASTING component carried
over from the previous second. (1.) How much of the distance of fall
during each of seconds 2, 3, and 4 is due to coasting? (2.) And how
much do those individual coasting distances, in seconds 2, 3, and 4,
contribute to the force of impact of the object? (3.) Lastly, if you
believe, as I do, that coasting distances aren't contributing to the
force of impact in any second, then what is the sole determining
factor in the force of impact of a small unit mass?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847...

-- NoEinstein --

16 feet in first second
48 feet in second second

This does not fit the 32 feet persecond squared

On Feb 28, 6:52 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Feb 27, 10:54 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --

Wouldn't it be great if you could do some simple experiments?

[...]

Eric: What...? Are my 'simple experiments' too complicated for you?

Not at all. They just don't say what you think they say.

More and more I suspect that Eric has crammed before exams to pass
courses, then he promptly forgets everything in the course. That
could explain why he can't graph a parabola, or write a few simple
algebraic equations to verify that 'c' isn't the maximum velocity in
the universe. -- NoEinstein --

What you suspect is utterly irrelevant. You haven't studied even a
fraction of what I have. My educated surpassed yours in high school.

On Feb 28, 9:52 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Feb 27, 10:54 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --

Wouldn't it be great if you could do some simple experiments?

[...]

Eric: What...? Are my 'simple experiments' too complicated for you?

What simple experiments? You haven't posted the methodology of your
experiments or published them anywhere to evaluate either the
simplicity or the complexity of them.



More and more I suspect that Eric has crammed before exams to pass
courses, then he promptly forgets everything in the course. That
could explain why he can't graph a parabola, or write a few simple
algebraic equations to verify that 'c' isn't the maximum velocity in
the universe. -- NoEinstein --- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Feb 28, 10:01 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:





On Feb 28, 9:44 am, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Feb 27, 10:52 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola? Or... do you have a graphing
calculator? I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two. Can you plot: d = t^2? I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed. Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.

I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?

Not only taught, but experimentally tested and validated
by the student in high school.

I honestly think that NoEinstein doesn't understand that
there is supposed to be a connection between equations
and the real world.

- Randy

Dear Randy: My KE = a/g (m) + v/32.174 (m) correctly predicts the
"real world" drop height at which a small clevis pin's KE matches the
inertia (weight) of a larger clevis pin. And my Z-Y-Z interferometer
detects the "real world" fringe shifts caused by the Earth's velocity
in the cosmos.

Publish those experiments so that they can be objectively evaluated.
What you *claim* they demonstrate is no more believable than your
claiming they prove that clouds are held up by pixies, until you
publish them for review.

There are lots of charlatans who have claimed to have perpetual motion
machines, automobile engines that run on air, and skin creams that
reverse aging and prolong life. Those that keep those inventions
buried in their garage or their basements die with them in oblivion.





Have you ever done any successful "real world" scientific
experiments? -- NoEinstein --- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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On Feb 28, 10:05 pm, mitchg...@hotmail.com wrote:



16 feet in first second
48 feet in second second

This does not fit the 32 feet persecond squared

Why, yes, yes it does.
The relationship between the distance and the acceleration for an
object dropped from rest near the surface of the earth is very simple:
(distance) = (1/2)(acceleration)(time)^2
Please plug in 32 fet per second squared in for the acceleration, and
then find out what the distance is after (time) = 1second and (time) =
2 seconds.
It fits *superbly*.

PD

mitchg...@hotmail.com says...

16 feet in first second
48 feet in second second

This does not fit the 32 feet persecond squared

It certainly does. At the start of the 1-second
interval, the object is traveling at 0 feet
per second. At the end of the 1-second interval, the
object is traveling at 32 feet per second. The
distance traveled is computed in terms of the
*average* velocity:

D_traveled = V_average * Time_traveled

During the first 1-second interval, V_average is 16 feet per
second, the average of 0 and 32. During the second 1-second
interval V_average is 48 feet per second, the average of
32 and 64.

--
Daryl McCullough
Ithaca, NY

On Feb 29, 12:14 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Feb 28, 6:52 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Feb 27, 10:54 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --

Wouldn't it be great if you could do some simple experiments?

[...]

Eric: What...? Are my 'simple experiments' too complicated for you?

Not at all. They just don't say what you think they say.

More and more I suspect that Eric has crammed before exams to pass
courses, then he promptly forgets everything in the course. That
could explain why he can't graph a parabola, or write a few simple
algebraic equations to verify that 'c' isn't the maximum velocity in
the universe. -- NoEinstein --

What you suspect is utterly irrelevant. You haven't studied even a
fraction of what I have. My educated surpassed yours in high school.

Dear Eric: Your EGO enters the room before you do. Unless you can
show some objectivity for science truths, I must decline to reply to
you. But read my reply to Mitch, above. That is the type of
'thinking' I was trying to squeeze out of your radish brain. --
NoEinstein --