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| NoEinstein |
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:46 pm |
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On Feb 26, 2:27 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
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Dear Uncle AL: Long time no hear! I was hoping you, and others, can
answer "three simple questions". Is it an insult to you to be asked
simple questions? Give it another try! But if you can't do it, then
maybe it is you who are the... idiot. -- NoEinstein --
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NoEinstein wrote:
A small falling object near the Earth has a COASTING component carried
over from the previous second.
[snip crap]
That was quick. All velocity is relative. Idiot.
(3.) Lastly, if you
believe, as I do, that coasting distances aren't contributing to the
force of impact in any second, then what is the sole determining
factor in the force of impact of a small unit mass?
[snip rest of crap]
"Az di bobe vot gehat beytsim volt zi geven mayn zeyde."
Do you have three grandfathers? One would not be surprised to learn
you have but one (natal, not surviving). That your family tree does
not branch is not compensated by your falling from the top of the
Stupid Tree and hitting every branch on the way down. Assuredly the
impact at the bottom reflects your taken path.
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Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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| NoEinstein |
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:49 pm |
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On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:>
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Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --
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On Feb 26, 12:59 pm, tantal <6fre3hu8e...@fireman.net> wrote:
On Feb 26, 4:29 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 26, 5:26 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
A small falling object near the Earth has a COASTING component carried
over from the previous second. (1.) How much of the distance of fall
during each of seconds 2, 3, and 4 is due to coasting? (2.) And how
much do those individual coasting distances, in seconds 2, 3, and 4,
contribute to the force of impact of the object? (3.) Lastly, if you
believe, as I do, that coasting distances aren't contributing to the
force of impact in any second, then what is the sole determining
factor in the force of impact of a small unit mass?
How about explaining to us why we should explain introductory physics
to you and correct the many misunderstandings that you display in just
this post?
sure you dont realize tha complexity of this question
show tha details in your work
For you, I offer special deal. $199.99. One day only. Nobody else gets
this good a deal.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847...
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| NoEinstein |
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:29 pm |
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On Feb 26, 7:03 pm, xxein <xx...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Dear xxein: Welcome to my post, newcomer! Your reply suggests that
you're reading-too-much-into my three simple questions. Obviously,
the distance of fall during the first second--which is not mentioned in
the problem--has no carryover distance from the previous second.
That's because the object was just being held, and hasn't yet started
to fall at "time" zero.
Please re read my initial post. "Acceleration", or any definition of
acceleration, isn't needed to answer the distance of fall questions.
But one must know that falling objects increase their distances by the
formula: d = t^2. Note: Since the distance of fall in the first
second is 16.087 feet, such amount becomes "d". And the units of time
is in seconds.
Better than your "simply put" definition, below: Acceleration is: A
uniform, additive increase of an object's velocity. And the distance
of fall vs. time curve, d = t^2, plots as a PARABOLA (inverted,
preferred).
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xxein: The 'coasting' component can come from two different sources.
It can come from no initial velocity (gravity without inertial
velocity to preceed it), or from an inertial velocity that is pre-
presented into a gravitational situation.
In either case, a m vs.r factor determines g (acceleration) that is
added to the velocity. Simply put, an acceleration just adds to
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| Eric Gisse |
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:52 pm |
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On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola? Or... do you have a graphing
calculator? I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two. Can you plot: d = t^2? I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed. Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.
I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?
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If you believe that what you were "taught" in college is sacred, then
by all means proclaim such. But if you are objective enough to even
consider becoming a scientist, show some objectivity. I will walk you
by the hand. But you must first know how to walk. -- NoEinstein --
Not once yet have you actually tried discussing anything taught to me
in college - again, everything so far is based on what I learned in
high school. I'm yet to actually see you actually discuss relativity -
all I see is whining about Coriolis, which is a slam against /
classical mechanics/. SR is not classical mechanics.
If you wish to complain about my objectivity, try doing it from under
your real name instead of "NoEinstein" so your hypocracy isn't nearly
as obvious. Do you actually sign the spew you send to universities
with "NoEinstein"? If not, why are you doing it here? Are you such a
dysfunctional human being that you can't grasp that talking to a
scientist under that name pretty much ensures you'll be laughed at
whether or not your ideas are even considered?
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847...
On Feb 26, 5:26 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
A small falling object near the Earth has a COASTING component carried
over from the previous second. (1.) How much of the distance of fall
during each of seconds 2, 3, and 4 is due to coasting? (2.) And how
much do those individual coasting distances, in seconds 2, 3, and 4,
contribute to the force of impact of the object? (3.) Lastly, if you
believe, as I do, that coasting distances aren't contributing to the
force of impact in any second, then what is the sole determining
factor in the force of impact of a small unit mass?
How about explaining to us why we should explain introductory physics
to you and correct the many misunderstandings that you display in just
this post?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847...
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| Eric Gisse |
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:54 pm |
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NoEinstein wrote:
Quote: On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --
Wouldn't it be great if you could do some simple experiments?
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| PD |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:29 am |
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On Feb 27, 8:49 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --
Guys, wouldn't it be great if when NoEinstein says he won't post
responses anymore, that he actually does what he says he's going to
do?
PD |
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| PD |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:34 am |
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On Feb 27, 8:26 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 26, 11:59 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry PD. You have no idea what objectivity in science is. Your
notion of "science" is to pit your stubbornness against my truths.
Actually, if you want to know what science is, there are a whole bunch
of short books for beginners that explain what science is and how it
works. Would you like some suggestions?
If the meaning of science as explained in these books doesn't meet
your expectations, it's possible that you're just confused about the
meaning of the word and you were looking for a different word
entirely. If that's the case, then it's likely that you didn't mean to
post to a science newsgroup at all, but some other group, because
"science" doesn't mean what you thought it means. I'd be happy to
direct you to a newsgroup that is more along the lines of what you
were looking for. Probably something in the "rec" area.
Quote: But you loose, because you are a looser. -- NoEinstein --
And I see you did just as well in your middle school English classes
as you did in your middle school science classes.
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On Feb 26, 8:26 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
A small falling object near the Earth has a COASTING component
Component of what? Velocity? Distance? Acceleration?
carried
over from the previous second.
(1.) How much of the distance of fall
during each of seconds 2, 3, and 4 is due to coasting?
(2.) And how
much do those individual coasting distances, in seconds 2, 3, and 4,
contribute to the force of impact of the object?
(3.) Lastly, if you
believe, as I do, that coasting distances aren't contributing to the
force of impact in any second, then what is the sole determining
factor in the force of impact of a small unit mass?
Are you talking about *force*, *energy*, *momentum*, or *velocity* of
impact? They are all *different* quantities, measured with different
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| Randy Poe |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:44 am |
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On Feb 27, 10:52 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola? Or... do you have a graphing
calculator? I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two. Can you plot: d = t^2? I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed. Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.
I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?
Not only taught, but experimentally tested and validated
by the student in high school.
I honestly think that NoEinstein doesn't understand that
there is supposed to be a connection between equations
and the real world.
- Randy |
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| Jeffâ–²Relf |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:46 am |
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Uncle Al thinks he can police Sci.Physics;
he's delusional ( of course ) not as much as you are,
trying to police a vast network of Universities. |
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| Eric Gisse |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:57 am |
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On Feb 28, 5:44 am, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 27, 10:52 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola? Or... do you have a graphing
calculator? I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two. Can you plot: d = t^2? I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed. Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.
I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?
Not only taught, but experimentally tested and validated
by the student in high school.
Seriously. I can still remember doing the drop tests.
I could walk up to the physics department /right now/ and grab the
photogates and bearings with fishing line attached to test his ideas.
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I honestly think that NoEinstein doesn't understand that
there is supposed to be a connection between equations
and the real world.
- Randy |
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| Eric Gisse |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:58 am |
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On Feb 28, 5:29 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 27, 8:49 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --
Guys, wouldn't it be great if when NoEinstein says he won't post
responses anymore, that he actually does what he says he's going to
do?
PD
He would, but we are the only people who pay attention to him. |
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| Igor |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:31 am |
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On Feb 27, 9:29 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 26, 1:44 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
Dear Igor2: I have asked three simple questions which you can't
answer. So, it is YOU who need remedial work. -- NoEinstein --
So the top poster says I need remedial work? The main problem is that
your original questions didn't make much sense. Quantities in physics
have precise definitions. Maybe you need to learn some of them before
making a complete fool out of yourself and coming off like a complete
ignoramous. Besides, if there is anything wrong with a physical
theory, it can only be falsified by observation, and not by any
crackpot mathematics. |
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| NoEinstein |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:46 pm |
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On Feb 27, 10:52 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Dear Eric: It is obvious how much your ego gets boosted by being a
college student. But I won't complicate my simple Einstein disproofs
just to make them more appealing to your ego. Tell me: Can you plot
the requested down-turned parabola, or not? And you haven't done any
of the 10th grade algebra to verify my Einstein disproofs [
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/t/ac6fcd9b4e8112ed?hl=en ];
and you couldn't calculate the side angle of a hemispherical pyramid.
What you need is to become a more focused 'scientist'. Those attach
the problems at hand. You seem to prefer to attack the problems some
place else. That way, your... answers won't be subject to grading.
Loose some ego, and some laziness; your brain is a terrible thing to
waste. -- NoEinstein --
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On Feb 27, 5:21 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Feb 26, 10:29 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Eric: Can you draw a parabola? Or... do you have a graphing
calculator? I've asked for specific information that you, as a
college graduate in physics, should be able to provide in a minute or
two. Can you plot: d = t^2? I am trying to "walk you through" the
simple reasoning to understanding why Einstein goofed. Of course, it
saves you time to attack the messenger rather than trying to
understand the message.
I'm not a graduate yet, but you have to understand the stuff you are
arguing about was taught to me in HIGH SCHOOL. Do you even know where
the formula d = 1/2 gt^2 + v_0 t + x_0 comes from?
If you believe that what you were "taught" in college is sacred, then
by all means proclaim such. But if you are objective enough to even
consider becoming a scientist, show some objectivity. I will walk you
by the hand. But you must first know how to walk. -- NoEinstein --
Not once yet have you actually tried discussing anything taught to me
in college - again, everything so far is based on what I learned in
high school. I'm yet to actually see you actually discuss relativity -
all I see is whining about Coriolis, which is a slam against /
classical mechanics/. SR is not classical mechanics.
If you wish to complain about my objectivity, try doing it from under
your real name instead of "NoEinstein" so your hypocracy isn't nearly
as obvious. Do you actually sign the spew you send to universities
with "NoEinstein"? If not, why are you doing it here? Are you such a
dysfunctional human being that you can't grasp that talking to a
scientist under that name pretty much ensures you'll be laughed at
whether or not your ideas are even considered?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847...
On Feb 26, 5:26 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
A small falling object near the Earth has a COASTING component carried
over from the previous second. (1.) How much of the distance of fall
during each of seconds 2, 3, and 4 is due to coasting? (2.) And how
much do those individual coasting distances, in seconds 2, 3, and 4,
contribute to the force of impact of the object? (3.) Lastly, if you
believe, as I do, that coasting distances aren't contributing to the
force of impact in any second, then what is the sole determining
factor in the force of impact of a small unit mass?
How about explaining to us why we should explain introductory physics
to you and correct the many misunderstandings that you display in just
this post?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847...
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:52 pm |
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On Feb 27, 10:54 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: NoEinstein wrote:
On Feb 26, 2:28 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys, wouldn't it be great if PD would actually do some simple
graphs? -- NoEinstein --
Wouldn't it be great if you could do some simple experiments?
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Eric: What...? Are my 'simple experiments' too complicated for you?
More and more I suspect that Eric has crammed before exams to pass
courses, then he promptly forgets everything in the course. That
could explain why he can't graph a parabola, or write a few simple
algebraic equations to verify that 'c' isn't the maximum velocity in
the universe. -- NoEinstein -- |
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| NoEinstein |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:56 pm |
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On Feb 28, 3:46 am, Jeff$B"%(BRelf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Quote: Uncle Al thinks he can police Sci.Physics;
he's delusional ( of course ) not as much as you are,
trying to police a vast network of Universities.
Dear Jeff: When one university gets its due, they all will fall in
line. 'Policing' isn't my thing. Pointing out corruption (as in
North Carolina's universities) is what needs doing, not what I want to
do. -- NoEinstein -- |
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