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| Mike Williams |
 Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:34 am |
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From several pearls that Petra has carelessly strewn before us swine,
notably the proposed region in which her "machine" is to be used (the S.F.
Bay area), the number of instruments to be used, their approximate spacing
(a somewhat dense array), the involvement of money and profit, and the
instrument's spacing "along faults," I suspect that she might be in some
sort of association with this group:
http://www.quakefinder.com/frontPage/calmagnet3.shtml
Be sure to look at the additional pages at that site.
Whatdya think?
Mike Williams |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:34 am |
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On Feb 25, 6:34 am, "Mike Williams" <miklw...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: From several pearls that Petra has carelessly strewn before us swine,
notably the proposed region in which her "machine" is to be used (the S.F.
Bay area), the number of instruments to be used, their approximate spacing
(a somewhat dense array), the involvement of money and profit, and the
instrument's spacing "along faults," I suspect that she might be in some
sort of association with this group:
http://www.quakefinder.com/frontPage/calmagnet3.shtml
Be sure to look at the additional pages at that site.
Whatdya think?
Mike Williams
Could be but I didn't see anything that looked like $60-$70
Roger |
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| rick++ |
| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:34 am |
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This group received some press for launching an EM observation/
prediction
satellite. They described how their intentions in some papers on the
site,
but I never saw the results. Perhaps there werent any results or the
satellite died.
This was a fairly inexpensive piggy-back satellites, so investors
didnt lose
too much money.
There's speculative money from starry-eyed successful dot.comers
willing to chase
fringe science ideas- anywhere from garage-bulit spaceships, SETI,
and
earthquake prediction. The group PR's itself in generic venture-
capital business
clothing. The pose as "outsider-insiders": The insider part is they
have some engineering
credentials. The outsider part is claiming to be be more imaginative
than the
"seismology establishment" supposedly-pursuing staid projects at the
USGS and universities.
I feel there's room for outsiders to make contribution, considering
the number of
under-tested ideas out there and massive volumes of under-analysed
data (available on the web).
This happens commonly in the astronomy community. However, people
have to play
by the rules of science and fully publish their methods and results
and stop playing
"I've got a secret". Otherwise they earn the attribute of "kook" and
are are generally
ignored by insiders. |
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| Mike Williams |
| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:03 pm |
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<rogerh@lpbroadband.net> wrote in message
news:22bcb30a-1653-4472-9cf3-fb08e7844563@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On Feb 25, 6:34 am, "Mike Williams" <miklw...@pacbell.net> wrote:
From several pearls that Petra has carelessly strewn before us swine,
notably the proposed region in which her "machine" is to be used (the
S.F.
Bay area), the number of instruments to be used, their approximate
spacing
(a somewhat dense array), the involvement of money and profit, and the
instrument's spacing "along faults," I suspect that she might be in some
sort of association with this group:
http://www.quakefinder.com/frontPage/calmagnet3.shtml
Be sure to look at the additional pages at that site.
Whatdya think?
Mike Williams
Could be but I didn't see anything that looked like $60-$70
Roger
Agreed. And another discrepancy is that Petra claims her instrument requires
"no power." And suggests it is entirely off the grid. The instrument in the
article can run off battery power, but it is stated that it receives
charging from power lines.
So maybe Petra's instrument is something like Shan(?)'s daily measuring of a
shadow cast by the sun by a fixed point and cast upon his wall. IIRC, he
claimed to be able to predict quakes by thus observing small changes in the
Earth's orbit.
Or could it be carpenter's levels strategically emplaced?
Mike Williams |
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| Mike Williams |
| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:05 pm |
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"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6ead6a11-437d-4f4c-bb51-f2bd52aaa123@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Whatdya think?
This group received some press for launching an EM observation/
prediction
satellite. They described how their intentions in some papers on the
site,
but I never saw the results. Perhaps there werent any results or the
satellite died.
This was a fairly inexpensive piggy-back satellites, so investors
didnt lose
too much money.
There's speculative money from starry-eyed successful dot.comers
willing to chase
fringe science ideas- anywhere from garage-bulit spaceships, SETI,
and
earthquake prediction. The group PR's itself in generic venture-
capital business
clothing. The pose as "outsider-insiders": The insider part is they
have some engineering
credentials. The outsider part is claiming to be be more imaginative
than the
"seismology establishment" supposedly-pursuing staid projects at the
USGS and universities.
I feel there's room for outsiders to make contribution, considering
the number of
under-tested ideas out there and massive volumes of under-analysed
data (available on the web).
This happens commonly in the astronomy community. However, people
have to play
by the rules of science and fully publish their methods and results
and stop playing
"I've got a secret". Otherwise they earn the attribute of "kook" and
are are generally
ignored by insiders.
Good points, Rick, and an interesting take on the background of the
QuakeFinder group.
Thanks.
Mike W. |
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