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| Alan Kellogg |
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:41 am |
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In article <VA.00001526.44924689@email.provider.invalid>,
Aidan Karley <name1_name2@email.provider.invalid> wrote:
Quote: In article <mythusmage-AD3ECA.06002022022008@news.isp.giganews.com>, Alan
Kellogg wrote:
Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and thus
in mass.
You've been reading crackpots, of whom there are no shortage.
No credible earth scientist believes that the Earth as expanded
noticeably in the last 4+billion years.
BTW, I've trimmed the Astronomy and Physics groups ; I'm sure
they've got enough crackpots of their own to clean up after without adding
geology's crackpots to the list.
You did read the full comment, right? Let us review:
Quote: Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and thus
in mass. Back in the Jurassic animals grew larger because they didn't
weigh as much (less mass, less gravity). Yet the modern day savannah
bull elephant is known to grow as large as the typical Jurassic
apatosaurus ('bout 15 tons). How can this be?
I think Google has the full thread from the beginning for your research
convenience.
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| brad |
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:25 am |
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On Feb 24, 12:51 am, sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote:
Quote: On 24 fév, 04:38, Aidan Karley <name1_na...@email.provider.invalid
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a Scotman !
By the way, EE is a special case of a larger Planetaty Expansion
concept, but if you do not understand it, Aidan, you should come to
the conclusion that it is beyong your scope .... Of course this is
impossible as well as it was to the tenants of the Flat Earth before.
I am sure most people in Aberdeen hold that present Continental
Rafting idiocy for what it is, just that indeed.
I appears then that you 're a cultural exception.
Proud of it ?
jpturcaud
EE is planetary expansion SR ? keep adding relativity terms .... this
just keeps getting better. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... IDIOT !!!!! |
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| brad |
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:46 am |
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On Feb 24, 1:19 am, sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote:
Quote: On 22 fév, 15:00, Alan Kellogg <mythusm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and thus
in mass. Back in the Jurassic animals grew larger because they didn't
weigh as much (less mass, less gravity). Yet the modern day savannah
bull elephant is known to grow as large as the typical Jurassic
apatosaurus ('bout 15 tons). How can this be?
--http://www.mythusmageopines.com/wp
If you didn't want my opinions you wouldn't be reading my posts.
Who said that Earth has expanded in mass ... only you ?
... and other idiots of the kind such as Josephus, twisting the
concept of EE to adapt it to their short vision & limited
intelligence !
Where would that mass come from, Dork ?
In any case the whole issue is completely fucked up, with all those
fraudulent theories pushed down the throats of those poor Gogology
students, that it does not matter.
jpturcaud
all right then relate it to energy and electron levels inside
minerals . either EM gets weaker over time , and light from other side
of universe belies that. or electrons have more energy added and move
farther from nucleii in which case the positive charge of nucleii grip
remaining e- more strongly , effectively reducing ionic size . which
as you know alters crystalline structure of minerals Since IONIC SIZE
is the primary criteria involved in mineralization . where is the
evidence of that ? BTW I never heard any professor of any discipline
mention fuck in any lecture. nor have I seen it in any publication. Is
your vocab lacking adequate adjectives ? or are you and D... F... not
really .... ( dare I say it ).... academics ? |
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| don findlay |
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:33 am |
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Alan Kellogg wrote:
Quote: In article
d15bb1c5-fa5a-4eba-a53b-bca022651dd4@62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr wrote:
On 22 f�v, 15:00, Alan Kellogg <mythusm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and thus
in mass. Back in the Jurassic animals grew larger because they didn't
weigh as much (less mass, less gravity). Yet the modern day savannah
bull elephant is known to grow as large as the typical Jurassic
apatosaurus ('bout 15 tons). How can this be?
--http://www.mythusmageopines.com/wp
If you didn't want my opinions you wouldn't be reading my posts.
Who said that Earth has expanded in mass ... only you ?
Without extra mass how would the Earth expand. Unless we're now living
on the crust of a souffle.
What do you mean, "mass"? What is it, ..and how does it manage to
exert an attractive force at a distance?
("Look Ma, .. no hands..!")
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| don findlay |
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:20 am |
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Aidan Karley wrote:
Quote: In article <mythusmage-82640F.20415323022008@news.isp.giganews.com>, Alan
Kellogg wrote:
You did read the full comment, right? Let us review:
Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and thus
in mass.
Yes I did.
Where did the extra mass come from?
That's the basic question to be asked of all the expanding earth
crackpots ; it's the one they refuse to answer, evade, or produce handwaving
to beg for the dilithium crystals from the Enterprise's engines to provide
their answer.
Until you get a straight, testable answer to this question from an
"expanding earther", you may as well take anything else that they say as
being without basis in fact, because they're avoiding facing the biggest
single problem with their thesis.
"Expanding Earth" is crackpottery, not science. This newsgroup is in
the "sci.*" hierarchy, not in "crackpot.*", "talk.*" or "strongganja.*"
I think Google has the full thread from the beginning for your research
convenience.
I don't need to Google it - I've been recording what goes on in this
newsgroup since [27 May 2004 23:16:45 -0700] (Oh, I must have deleted the
previous stuff. No loss.), and I've been present a *lot* longer (on and off,
since before 1997). I've seen the expanding earther's pathetic attempts at
defending their thesis, seen their total lack of answer for the problems with
their theory, and come to the conclusions that most of the idea's proponents
are either being disputatious for "fun", or are clinically deranged. In
either case, I've no interest in wasting my time talking to them. I'm sure
that if one of them does come up with something interesting, then one of the
other denizens of the NG will bring it to my attention.
[NB : I killfile by author, not by thread.]
(Fucking wanker)
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Aidan Karley, FGS,
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| don findlay |
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:24 am |
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Aidan Karley wrote:
Quote: In article <db6778a5-41eb-4f80-bab0-
91b14d173a10@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Brad wrote:
On Feb 24, 12:51�am, sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote:
On 24 f�v, 04:38, Aidan Karley <name1_na...@email.provider.invalid
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a Scotman !
Nope. Irish, living in Scotland, thinking of moving to Spain.
If I was Scots, I'd have spelt my name Aedan - couldn't you
tell? <G
Did you get that now George (at last)? Not a place in the Middle
East but a denizen of the Bogs of Ireland - and thick as Irish pigshit
(to boot). Almost ranks with you for name spelling. ( And that's his
own too, for God's sake.)
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Aidan Karley, FGS,
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| Alan Kellogg |
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:33 am |
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In article
<d15bb1c5-fa5a-4eba-a53b-bca022651dd4@62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr wrote:
Quote: On 22 fév, 15:00, Alan Kellogg <mythusm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and thus
in mass. Back in the Jurassic animals grew larger because they didn't
weigh as much (less mass, less gravity). Yet the modern day savannah
bull elephant is known to grow as large as the typical Jurassic
apatosaurus ('bout 15 tons). How can this be?
--http://www.mythusmageopines.com/wp
If you didn't want my opinions you wouldn't be reading my posts.
Who said that Earth has expanded in mass ... only you ?
Without extra mass how would the Earth expand. Unless we're now living
on the crust of a souffle.
--
http://www.mythusmageopines.com/wp
If you didn't want my opinions you wouldn't be reading my posts. |
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| Aidan Karley |
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:32 am |
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In article <mythusmage-82640F.20415323022008@news.isp.giganews.com>, Alan
Kellogg wrote:
Quote: You did read the full comment, right? Let us review:
Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and thus
in mass.
Yes I did.
Where did the extra mass come from?
That's the basic question to be asked of all the expanding earth
crackpots ; it's the one they refuse to answer, evade, or produce handwaving
to beg for the dilithium crystals from the Enterprise's engines to provide
their answer.
Until you get a straight, testable answer to this question from an
"expanding earther", you may as well take anything else that they say as
being without basis in fact, because they're avoiding facing the biggest
single problem with their thesis.
"Expanding Earth" is crackpottery, not science. This newsgroup is in
the "sci.*" hierarchy, not in "crackpot.*", "talk.*" or "strongganja.*"
Quote: I think Google has the full thread from the beginning for your research
convenience.
I don't need to Google it - I've been recording what goes on in this
newsgroup since [27 May 2004 23:16:45 -0700] (Oh, I must have deleted the
previous stuff. No loss.), and I've been present a *lot* longer (on and off,
since before 1997). I've seen the expanding earther's pathetic attempts at
defending their thesis, seen their total lack of answer for the problems with
their theory, and come to the conclusions that most of the idea's proponents
are either being disputatious for "fun", or are clinically deranged. In
either case, I've no interest in wasting my time talking to them. I'm sure
that if one of them does come up with something interesting, then one of the
other denizens of the NG will bring it to my attention.
[NB : I killfile by author, not by thread.]
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Aidan Karley, FGS,
Aberdeen, Scotland |
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| Aidan Karley |
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:32 am |
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In article <db6778a5-41eb-4f80-bab0-
91b14d173a10@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Brad wrote:
Quote: On Feb 24, 12:51 am, sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote:
On 24 fév, 04:38, Aidan Karley <name1_na...@email.provider.invalid
wrote:
a Scotman !
Nope. Irish, living in Scotland, thinking of moving to Spain.
If I was Scots, I'd have spelt my name Aedan - couldn't you
tell? <G>
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Aidan Karley, FGS,
Aberdeen, Scotland |
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| Peter Webb |
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:15 am |
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"Aidan Karley" <name1_name2@email.provider.invalid> wrote in message
news:VA.0000152d.4b6a97e7@email.provider.invalid...
Quote: In article <mythusmage-82640F.20415323022008@news.isp.giganews.com>, Alan
Kellogg wrote:
You did read the full comment, right? Let us review:
Let me see if I have this straight. Earth has expanded in size, and
thus
in mass.
Yes I did.
Where did the extra mass come from?
I don't think the earth has increased (or decreased) mass or size very much
in the last few billion years.
Why do you think it has? |
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| Aidan Karley |
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:31 am |
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In article <47c2dba6$0$26343$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Peter Webb wrote:
Quote: I don't think the earth has increased (or decreased) mass or size very much
in the last few billion years.
Why do you think it has?
I don't think that the Earth has changed significantly in mass, or
dimensions, since (at the latest) the Late Heavy Bombardment of about 3900-
3700 million years ago.
I was being scathing about the expanding earth crackpots present in
this newsgroup.
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Aidan Karley, FGS,
Aberdeen, Scotland |
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| Florian |
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:41 am |
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Aidan Karley <name1_name2@email.provider.invalid> wrote:
Quote: Where did the extra mass come from?
Crackpots always evade by disgressing to questions that can't be
answered like: "Where did the extra mass come from?"
Any skeptics can figure out that Plate tectonics is flawed.
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer |
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| SBC Yahoo |
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:53 pm |
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"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net> wrote in message
news:1icvoit.1n9nukby2pvwgN%auxotectonics_deletethis@nachon_andthis.net...
Quote: Aidan Karley <name1_name2@email.provider.invalid> wrote:
Where did the extra mass come from?
Crackpots always evade by disgressing to questions that can't be
answered like: "Where did the extra mass come from?"
Any skeptics can figure out that Plate tectonics is flawed.
--
Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
une totale évidence" - Arthur Schopenhauer
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"Crackpots always evade by disgressing to questions that can't be
Quote: answered like: "Where did the extra mass come from?""
Physics 101 "Mass can not be created, energy can be converted into mass,
mass into energy, therefore mass can only change forms, not disappear or
appear, magically"
No, crackpots propose groundless, unsubstantiated claims offering not even
a remotely feasible theory, and expect everyone to accept it as a fact,
because they uttered it. You, and your moronic friends are the crackpots.
A halfwitted 3d grader could look at a map of the planet and see the pieces
fitting together like a gigantic jig saw puzzle. Then the obvious question
comes to mind, how did they get to their present positions? Obviously you
and your ilk are not up to "Half Witted Standards".
"if you call me a liar, you'd best have poof or you will be in need of a
dentist"
John Wayne
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| Florian |
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:15 pm |
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SBC Yahoo <atilla.the.hun@liberals.suck.net> wrote:
Quote: Physics 101 "Mass can not be created, energy can be converted into mass,
mass into energy, therefore mass can only change forms, not disappear or
appear, magically"
You missed the true question: where does the energy come from?
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Florian
"Toute vérité passe par trois phases. D'abord, elle est ridiculisée;
ensuite, elle rencontre une vive opposition avant d'être acceptée comme
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| josephus |
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:58 am |
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Florian wrote:
Quote: SBC Yahoo <atilla.the.hun@liberals.suck.net> wrote:
Physics 101 "Mass can not be created, energy can be converted into mass,
mass into energy, therefore mass can only change forms, not disappear or
appear, magically"
You missed the true question: where does the energy come from?
the same damned place your magic energy comes from.... you just broke
my irony meter, and it was a military quality double circuit self
backup unit.
I know you are faking the arguments. you use the counter arguments
against other folks.
josephus
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and look at stars in the winter,
"Everybody is ignorant but on
different subjects"
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Its not what you know
that gets you in trouble
its what you know that ain so.
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