Bill Ward wrote:
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:39:50 -0800, knews4u2chew wrote:

On Feb 20, 10:28 am, Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Feb 20, 7:10 am, Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:
Ralph wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable
documentary about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed
in the 1960s:
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
followed by:
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
I don't have time to watch a 1.5hr movie. But I did follow the link:
Rebuttal book review & our
commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about
this stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
That's the point of the movie.
The medical establishment wouldn't "investigate" his formula because
after they tried to but it and control it Hoxey refused. He mainly
refused because of a promise to his Father that it would be available
to those with little money that the Pharma Buyers wouldn't honor. They
also found they couldn't patent the ingedients since they grow in the
woods.
Then they destroyed him as best they could. Watch the movie.

There is no hydrogen "scam."
Meyer's process works and is being duplicated all over the planet. Some
new devices based on his process will be shown to the media likely this
year.
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's process.

You want me to send you the circuit to build too like I sent to Krasner
and Ward?

Why don't you? Everybody needs a good laugh now and then.


JW is a consummate liar as well as scientific ignoramus. He never sent me
any circuit and I never asked for one. He also is a very bad reader. He
repeatedly misspells my name.
FK

Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote:

Ralph wrote:
knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/chrychek

Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed in the 1960s:

http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey

followed by:
Tom Beardon: An Interview

You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......

Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....

I don't have time to watch a 1.5hr movie. But I did follow the link:
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm

First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....

Dan Bloomquist <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote:


First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....

The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.

I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.

One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.

In misc.survivalism knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.

That's a newsworthy event. Can you send me a link to his press release?

On Feb 21, 6:50 am, EskWI...@spamblock.panix.com wrote:

In misc.survivalism knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.

That's a newsworthy event. Can you send me a link to his press release?

No.
Sorry there is no news release yet.
The developer will be on a radio show soon to make his progress known.
I can't say when but we are hoping to be able to make the work public
within months.
Much has been accomplished all across the world in duplicating Meyer's
process.
My associate has extremely applicable credentials in that his past
work has made it easy for him to understand and duplicate Meyer's
processes.
He has also been able to improve it a bit.
There is a bit more testing and legal work to finish before any
anouncements.
Believe me I can hardly wait.

On Feb 21, 10:39 am, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:



On Feb 21, 6:50 am, EskWI...@spamblock.panix.com wrote:

In misc.survivalism knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.

That's a newsworthy event. Can you send me a link to his press release?

No.
Sorry there is no news release yet.
The developer will be on a radio show soon to make his progress known.
I can't say when but we are hoping to be able to make the work public
within months.
Much has been accomplished all across the world in duplicating Meyer's
process.
My associate has extremely applicable credentials in that his past
work has made it easy for him to understand and duplicate Meyer's
processes.
He has also been able to improve it a bit.
There is a bit more testing and legal work to finish before any
anouncements.
Believe me I can hardly wait.

just a little bit more testing, a little more "legal" work, then the
magical water car
will run (if you invest just $1,500. or just a little more money ...http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html

Stanley Meyer 1996 claimed to have a water powered car and was also
big on mixing Christianity and patriot politics in with fringe
science. Meyer was found guilty of fraud after his Water Fuel Cell
was tested before an Ohio judge. It is rare for an inventor to be
prosecuted for an invention that does not work, but Meyer's problem
was that he had been selling "dealerships", offering investors the
"right to do business'' in Water Fuel Cell technology. Meyer refused
to allow anyone else to measure his device.

Dennis Lee invested in
him.

He died in early 1998.Stanley Meyers gets locked up for phony
water powered cars "End of Road for Car That Ran on Water," London
Sunday Times, 1 Dec. 1996.

An Ohio court ruled against inventor Stanley Meyer, in a case brought
against him by disgruntled investors recently.
Meyer had sold "dealerships" and licensing rights in his Water Fuel
Cell technology to interested investors, in anticipation of the day
when it would power electric vehicles or even aircraft.
That dream was shattered as Meyer was found guilty of fraud when his
Water Fuel Cell failed to impress three "expert witnesses" who decided
there was nothing revolutionary about it, rather that it was simply
using conventional electrolysis.

The Sunday Times article also stated that when one of the court
experts went to examine the Water Fuel Cell driven car, it was
impossible to evaluate because it was not working.

For those of you who are unfamiliar, Stanley Meyer patented some
equipment for fueling an IC engine with hydrogen. In addition to this
legitimate work, he claimed to be able decompose water into hydrogen
and oxygen with >100% thermal efficiency, thereby inventing a
"water-powered car". He sold "marketing rights" for this technology
to unsuspecting people, one of whom is a regular reader of s.e.h.

Back a couple years, a couple of his investors got wise to his scam
and took him to court, where Meyer was found guilty of "gross and
egregious fraud" and ordered to repay those 'investors'. As far as I
know, those were the only 'investors' who ever recouped their
'investment'. Meyer died earlier this year and his followers insist
he was poisoned (all good perpetual motion inventors are stalked by
THE CONSPIRACY).

After being found guilty of fraud, Meyer sent a long rambling letter
to the remainder of his 'investors', obviously hoping to ward off a
spate of trials which would have drained him of his ill-gotten gains.
It was replete with conspiracy paranoia and claimed that a recording
device in the courtroom was turned off so the judge (obviously working
under the direction of THE CONSPIRACY) could railroad Meyer into an
unjust guilty verdict.

As far as I know, Meyer's home base was Grove City, Ohio, and the
court case took place in Shelby county, Ohio. I am going to be
passing through Ohio in a couple weeks and Grove City is but 3 miles
off my planned route. I can pass through Shelby county with only
minor adjustment of my planned route through Indiana. I figured I'd
stop in at the courthouse and see if I can pick up copies of the
records of the trial.

Does anybody know precisely where and when the trial took place?
City, county, etc., date(s)??? Possibly an official case name?

Thanks.

Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:

Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:

Ralph wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/chrychek

Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed in the 1960s:

http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey

followed by:
Tom Beardon: An Interview

You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
I don't have time to watch a 1.5hr movie. But I did follow the link:
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm

This rebuttal claimed the documentary didn't provide proof that the
treatment worked, but the documentary was mostly about what the
establishment did to Hoxsey. The proof was in the fact that hundreds of
people testified under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal and Hoxsey cured them. Hoxsey was arrested about 200 times, but
never convicted because he always insisted on a jury trial and no jury
would ever convict him.

First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....

The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.

I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.

Wile doing a CT scan for another problem they found a strange growth
near my heart. Did an exploratory for a biopsy but decided to remove it
all nevertheless. Found it to be thymus tissue and malignant. Keep
looking at it with CT scans every 6 months. No symptoms then nor at
present. The surgery was a one day thing and was out of hospital in less
than 24 hours. No radiation or chemotherapy. No problems save things not
related to any cancer. So they don't always ruin your health and just
mitigate your approach to death.
FK

Dan Bloomquist <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote:

Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote:

Ralph wrote:
knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/chrychek

Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed in the 1960s:

http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey

followed by:
Tom Beardon: An Interview

You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
I don't have time to watch a 1.5hr movie. But I did follow the link:
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm

This rebuttal claimed the documentary didn't provide proof that the
treatment worked, but the documentary was mostly about what the
establishment did to Hoxsey. The proof was in the fact that hundreds of
people testified under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal and Hoxsey cured them. Hoxsey was arrested about 200 times, but
never convicted because he always insisted on a jury trial and no jury
would ever convict him.

First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....

The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.

I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.

Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote:


First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....

The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.

No. It means my mom looked into his, almond pits, they went to the
Netherlands, many other things, and _none_ of it kept my Dad from dying.

By the time my Mom found she had cancer it was in her lymph system. She
told the Doctors to take a hike as far as where the source was. It would
not change anything.

I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.

Apples and Oranges. But I don't expect you to understand that.....

On Feb 21, 2:46 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Dan Bloomquist <publi...@lakeweb.com> wrote:
Ralph wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed in the 1960s:
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
followed by:
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
I don't have time to watch a 1.5hr movie. But I did follow the link:
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
This rebuttal claimed the documentary didn't provide proof that the
treatment worked, but the documentary was mostly about what the
establishment did to Hoxsey. The proof was in the fact that hundreds of
people testified under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal and Hoxsey cured them. Hoxsey was arrested about 200 times, but
never convicted because he always insisted on a jury trial and no jury
would ever convict him.
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.
I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.
Wile doing a CT scan for another problem they found a strange growth
near my heart. Did an exploratory for a biopsy but decided to remove it
all nevertheless. Found it to be thymus tissue and malignant. Keep
looking at it with CT scans every 6 months. No symptoms then nor at
present. The surgery was a one day thing and was out of hospital in less
than 24 hours. No radiation or chemotherapy. No problems save things not
related to any cancer. So they don't always ruin your health and just
mitigate your approach to death.
FK


Very lucky for you Fred.
All those years of second hand smoke.
My oldest Aunt on my Father's side died of lung cancer in about 1962.
His older brother from the same thing in about 1980.
My Father in 1985 from what started as lung cancer, moved to liver,
brain, couldn't eat, starved to death.
All lifelong smokers.
The tobacco companies should pay for eternity for their sins.

The tobacco companies should pay for eternity for their sins.- Hide quoted text -

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http://www.youtube.com/chrychek

Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."

On Feb 19, 2:31 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/chrychek

Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."

snip Harry's misinfo and HMO saga

knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Maybe Rife can't help nut shells but it can kill bactria which causes
cancer.

Peer review? Oh, right, the 'establishment' suppresses.....

I'm getting tiered of feeding a troll.....

And I'm tired of doing all the reading.

You should get with the tent city you so are saying is the enemy. The
friend? Gads you are stupid....

In English please.