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| Mr DX |
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:49 am |
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Hi everyone,
I am a new guy here from So Cal.
I am looking for a list of Seismometer Radio Transmitter Frequencies.
I used to listen to one freq on 162.810 or it was 162.825. It was
just an audible tone that warbled.
Ever since the Fire Storm of 2003 (I think it was) The fire took out
the transmitter. It has never been replaced.
What I am looking for is the same thing. An audible tone that warbles.
Thanks
Steve |
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| Conehead |
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:55 pm |
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You can contact JPL or CalTech and Egil Hauckson can steer you in the
right direction. You are obviously a Ham. There is a Ham group that
meets on the air in SoCal on Wednesdays I think, and they have a great
group discussion. You can get the particulars from the ARRL or a Ham
by the name of Rick, WB6WFH on the 220 band packet or 2 meter 145.210. |
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| someone |
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:40 am |
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Mr DX wrote:
Quote: Hi everyone,
I am a new guy here from So Cal.
I am looking for a list of Seismometer Radio Transmitter Frequencies.
I used to listen to one freq on 162.810 or it was 162.825. It was
just an audible tone that warbled.
Ever since the Fire Storm of 2003 (I think it was) The fire took out
the transmitter. It has never been replaced.
What I am looking for is the same thing. An audible tone that warbles.
Thanks
Steve
Steve,
The station may have been replaced with a digital system using a microwave or
satellite up-link. The USGS has slowly been upgrading their old analog stations to
digital for better dynamic range. I have been monitoring these signals for years here
in the San Fransisco Bay Area. A few years ago I could receive 8+ VHF or UHF signals,
I'm now down to one. I made this board http://www.seismicnet.com/telebrd.html to
decode the data from one of the 8 possible sensors that could be on the audio signal.
I no longer sell the board since the USGS is replacing the stations with digital
up-links.
As a member of the Public Seismic Network I have several seismometers here at my
house. It has been nice to record events from a remote sensor like the old USGS
analog system to reduce false alarms.
Regards,
Larry Cochrane
Redwood City, PSN |
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| Mr DX |
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:30 am |
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Thanks for the information. Much appreciated!
I did contact Cal Tec in 2005 and I could not get any answers. They
would not release any information. They told me this information was
privet gov freq's and not for the public. Well, thats a bunch of
CRUD! I found a FCC part 97 & some other rule that said I could have
the info. I called them again & still got a NO, so I mailed it return
receipt on an attorney letter head written in legalease and I never
received a reply.
I will try Egil Hauckson. He can be found at JPL and Cal Tech?
I will also check Rick on the radio net. I think I might know him or
at least talked with him before.
That might be the JPL repeater they use.
As for the digital switch. I heard about that but I thought they
might leave some of the analog transmitters. I really enjoyed
listening to the tones. I would drive my kids crazy... hehe But I
could listen to all the warbles it would give off. It was so sensitive
it would pick up hikers walking by, hevy rain, dear and even some high
wind. If I new how to setup a seismometer and plant it in the
Mountain and what other permissions or permits I think I would
consider doing that.
I could not find out who owned that transmitter I used to listen to.
I just found an old 1990 Freq list
Code Freq Code Freq
A 162.596875 AW 162.59375
B 162.809375 BW 162.80626
C 163.396875 CW 163.39375
Total of 24 Freqs on this list along with USGs & Dept Interior Freqs.
It's an incomplete list. Only VHF.
Two of the USGS freqs are for the Earthquake chasers.
I don't know if the seismom freqs are still in use. I would gather no
from the digital switch.
Also on this list is the So Cal Seismic Network Station map, names,
codes, tone Hz, RF power & other info.
I don't know if any of this info would still be useful.
Do the uplink freqs to the satellites have an audio tone or is it just
a data stream?
"Someone" Do you have any of the uplink or down stream freqs? |
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| Mr DX |
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:19 am |
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On Feb 8, 5:29 am, "Mike Williams" <miklw...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: "Mr DX" <m...@iwon.com> wrote in message
news:6824f948-0621-46e2-859b-e6242f472961@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Thanks for the information. Much appreciated!
I did contact Cal Tec in 2005 and I could not get any answers. They
would not release any information. They told me this information was
privet gov freq's and not for the public. Well, thats a bunch of
CRUD! I found a FCC part 97 & some other rule that said I could have
the info. I called them again & still got a NO, so I mailed it return
receipt on an attorney letter head written in legalease and I never
received a reply.
I will try Egil Hauckson. He can be found at JPL and Cal Tech?
I will also check Rick on the radio net. I think I might know him or
at least talked with him before.
That might be the JPL repeater they use.
As for the digital switch. I heard about that but I thought they
might leave some of the analog transmitters. I really enjoyed
listening to the tones. I would drive my kids crazy... hehe But I
could listen to all the warbles it would give off. It was so sensitive
it would pick up hikers walking by, hevy rain, dear and even some high
wind. If I new how to setup a seismometer and plant it in the
Mountain and what other permissions or permits I think I would
consider doing that.
I could not find out who owned that transmitter I used to listen to.
I just found an old 1990 Freq list
Code Freq Code Freq
A 162.596875 AW 162.59375
B 162.809375 BW 162.80626
C 163.396875 CW 163.39375
Total of 24 Freqs on this list along with USGs & Dept Interior Freqs.
It's an incomplete list. Only VHF.
Two of the USGS freqs are for the Earthquake chasers.
I don't know if the seismom freqs are still in use. I would gather no
from the digital switch.
Also on this list is the So Cal Seismic Network Station map, names,
codes, tone Hz, RF power & other info.
I don't know if any of this info would still be useful.
Do the uplink freqs to the satellites have an audio tone or is it just
a data stream?
"Someone" Do you have any of the uplink or down stream freqs?
I'm not sure what information you are hoping to get from the system you used
to listen to, but the CUBE (Caltech-USGS Broadcast of Earthquakes) system
carries a whole stream of data subsequent to any significant earthquake in
near real-time. That information includes location, size, depth and more.
The information scrolls across the display of a pager. Since access is
available to a very great variety of public service and emergency response
agencies, I doubt very much that they can keep the frequencies or possible
encryption secret from the public.
Mike Williams
Arroyo Grande, CA U.S.
What I am looking for or trying to find out if any seismometers are
still transmitting the analog signal. All I want to do is listen to
the audible tone warble. Thats it. I don't need to decode any of the
information.
Yes, that is correct, they cannot keep the frequencies or the
encryption as privet but they sure are making it extremely hard to get
them. They can keep the software classified if they developed it and
not using a commercial software.
That is why I have come here to find out if anyone might have
information about the SN I am looking for.
Steve |
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| Mike Williams |
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:29 am |
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"Mr DX" <mrdx@iwon.com> wrote in message
news:6824f948-0621-46e2-859b-e6242f472961@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Thanks for the information. Much appreciated!
I did contact Cal Tec in 2005 and I could not get any answers. They
would not release any information. They told me this information was
privet gov freq's and not for the public. Well, thats a bunch of
CRUD! I found a FCC part 97 & some other rule that said I could have
the info. I called them again & still got a NO, so I mailed it return
receipt on an attorney letter head written in legalease and I never
received a reply.
I will try Egil Hauckson. He can be found at JPL and Cal Tech?
I will also check Rick on the radio net. I think I might know him or
at least talked with him before.
That might be the JPL repeater they use.
As for the digital switch. I heard about that but I thought they
might leave some of the analog transmitters. I really enjoyed
listening to the tones. I would drive my kids crazy... hehe But I
could listen to all the warbles it would give off. It was so sensitive
it would pick up hikers walking by, hevy rain, dear and even some high
wind. If I new how to setup a seismometer and plant it in the
Mountain and what other permissions or permits I think I would
consider doing that.
I could not find out who owned that transmitter I used to listen to.
I just found an old 1990 Freq list
Code Freq Code Freq
A 162.596875 AW 162.59375
B 162.809375 BW 162.80626
C 163.396875 CW 163.39375
Total of 24 Freqs on this list along with USGs & Dept Interior Freqs.
It's an incomplete list. Only VHF.
Two of the USGS freqs are for the Earthquake chasers.
I don't know if the seismom freqs are still in use. I would gather no
from the digital switch.
Also on this list is the So Cal Seismic Network Station map, names,
codes, tone Hz, RF power & other info.
I don't know if any of this info would still be useful.
Do the uplink freqs to the satellites have an audio tone or is it just
a data stream?
"Someone" Do you have any of the uplink or down stream freqs?
I'm not sure what information you are hoping to get from the system you used
to listen to, but the CUBE (Caltech-USGS Broadcast of Earthquakes) system
carries a whole stream of data subsequent to any significant earthquake in
near real-time. That information includes location, size, depth and more.
The information scrolls across the display of a pager. Since access is
available to a very great variety of public service and emergency response
agencies, I doubt very much that they can keep the frequencies or possible
encryption secret from the public.
Mike Williams
Arroyo Grande, CA U.S. |
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| Thomas A. Russ |
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:42 pm |
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Mr DX <mrdx@iwon.com> writes:
Quote: Thanks for the information. Much appreciated!
I did contact Cal Tec in 2005 and I could not get any answers. They
would not release any information. They told me this information was
privet gov freq's and not for the public. Well, thats a bunch of
CRUD! I found a FCC part 97 & some other rule that said I could have
the info. I called them again & still got a NO, so I mailed it return
receipt on an attorney letter head written in legalease and I never
received a reply.
Well, I suppose you could always file a formal Freedom of Information
Act request. But I'm not sure it will be worth the time and effort,
especially if you end up having to go to court to enforce it. But I
would imagine (IANAL) it would be harder for them to ignore.
--
Thomas A. Russ, USC/Information Sciences Institute |
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| Guest |
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:48 pm |
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In article <6824f948-0621-46e2-859b-e6242f472961@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Mr DX <mrdx@iwon.com> wrote:
Quote: CRUD! I found a FCC part 97 & some other rule that said I could have
the info. I called them again & still got a NO, so I mailed it return
receipt on an attorney letter head written in legalease and I never
received a reply.
Does any of this strike you as being a wee bit obsessive? |
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| Mr DX |
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:55 am |
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On Feb 8, 11:48 am, el...@no.spam () wrote:
Quote: In article <6824f948-0621-46e2-859b-e6242f472...@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Mr DX <m...@iwon.com> wrote:
CRUD! I found a FCC part 97 & some other rule that said I could have
the info. I called them again & still got a NO, so I mailed it return
receipt on an attorney letter head written in legalease and I never
received a reply.
Does any of this strike you as being a wee bit obsessive?
I would not call this obsessive. I am trying to find out information
in a timely manner. I don't want to spend years to find out
information then find out down the road that I could have just asked
around the experts (This group) an had the info in a short time.
"Path of least resistance"
However, I have received some good information so far so I am a step
further than I was before.
So the trick is finding the start of the path to least resistance.
Would you not agree?
Thanks everyone for all the input.
*side note: I started a new thread asking how to set up my own
station. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:43 pm |
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In article <4a56dc70-365b-4862-a367-84a248014767@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Mr DX <mrdx@iwon.com> wrote:
Quote: I would not call this obsessive.
No, but you are a bit biased.
Quote: *side note: I started a new thread asking how to set up my own
station.
Q.E.D. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:52 am |
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On Feb 11, 9:43 am, el...@no.spam () wrote:
Quote: In article <4a56dc70-365b-4862-a367-84a248014...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Mr DX <m...@iwon.com> wrote:
I would not call this obsessive.
No, but you are a bit biased.
*side note: I started a new thread asking how to set up my own
station.
Q.E.D.
biased? I am biased because I did not want to continue this thread on
a new topic?
Thanks for all the positive input. |
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