If a technology is a threat to an existing large industry
it is often bought out and then shelved simply because
they have already invested billions in the old technology.

That is not legally permitted. If you can show that a patent
holder is "shelving" an invention then the patent reverts to
the public domain. Then anyone can use it, even you.

Remember, the royalties are required to be reasonable, not
so high as to suppress the idea, that would not be legal.

Just because something is patented does not mean that someone cannot make it.

Here's a great idea for building more energy-efficient homes. And, as a
fellow inventor, I understand the use of patents quite well. But, when it
comes down to a patented concept that could do so much good to reduce the
increasing need for energy in heating and cooling homes, I sometimes wonder
if the greater good would not be served by some public or private program to
compensate the inventors and release it to the general public.

http://www.enertia.com/Science/HowItWorks/tabid/68/Default.aspx

jim

Windsun <windsun@wind-sun.com> wrote:

Just because something is patented does not mean that someone cannot make it.

Wrong. US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own use,
in your basement.

Windsun <windsun@wind-sun.com> wrote:

Just because something is patented does not mean that someone cannot make
it.

Wrong. US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own
use,
in your basement.

Nick

US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own use,
in your basement.

Please site the law that says that.

Bob Eld <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote:

US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own use,
in your basement.

Please site the law that says that.

It starts with Article 1, section 8 of the US constitution, and continues
through Title 35, Part III, Chapter 28, Section 271, Paragraph (a) of
the US Code. Subsection (4) of Paragraph (d) says refusing to license
others, ie "shelving" is OK...

A patent grants a property right to the patent owner. "Trespassing"
without the owner's permission is illegal.

Nick

Windsun <windsun@wind-sun.com> wrote:

Just because something is patented does not mean that someone cannot make
it.

Wrong. US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own
use,
in your basement.

Nick

nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu> wrote in message
news:fq1gqn$fm@acadia.ece.villanova.edu...
Bob Eld <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote:

US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own use,
in your basement.
Please site the law that says that.
It starts with Article 1, section 8 of the US constitution, and continues
through Title 35, Part III, Chapter 28, Section 271, Paragraph (a) of
the US Code. Subsection (4) of Paragraph (d) says refusing to license
others, ie "shelving" is OK...

A patent grants a property right to the patent owner. "Trespassing"
without the owner's permission is illegal.

Nick


Nowhere in any of those documents does it say that it is illegal to make
even one in your basement. Cite one case where tresspass law has been
applied to patents.

Cite one case where patent grantees have not had to
pursue their rights and claims in the civil courts to gain a remedy for
infringment.

US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own use,
in your basement.

Please site the law that says that.

It starts with Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution, and continues
through Title 35, Part III, Chapter 28, Section 271, Paragraph (a) of
the US Code. Subsection (4) of Paragraph (d) says refusing to license
others, ie "shelving" is OK...

A patent grants a property right to the patent owner. "Trespassing"
without the owner's permission is illegal.

... Cite one case where tresspass law has been applied to patents.

... I said that a patent did not prevent it from being made.

Bob Eld wrote:
nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu> wrote in message
news:fq1gqn$fm@acadia.ece.villanova.edu...
Bob Eld <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote:

US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own
use,
in your basement.
Please site the law that says that.
It starts with Article 1, section 8 of the US constitution, and
continues
through Title 35, Part III, Chapter 28, Section 271, Paragraph (a) of
the US Code. Subsection (4) of Paragraph (d) says refusing to license
others, ie "shelving" is OK...

A patent grants a property right to the patent owner. "Trespassing"
without the owner's permission is illegal.

Nick


Nowhere in any of those documents does it say that it is illegal to make
even one in your basement. Cite one case where tresspass law has been
applied to patents.

In Europe you can freely use patented material for non profit individual
use. In the U.S. the patent holder could litigate.

Cite one case where patent grantees have not had to
pursue their rights and claims in the civil courts to gain a remedy for
infringment.

Probably won't find one as the cost of litigation is not worth the minor
infringement.

Bob Eld <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com> wrote:

US code says it's strictly illegal to make even one, for your own
use,
in your basement.

Please site the law that says that.

It starts with Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution, and
continues
through Title 35, Part III, Chapter 28, Section 271, Paragraph (a) of
the US Code. Subsection (4) of Paragraph (d) says refusing to license
others, ie "shelving" is OK...

A patent grants a property right to the patent owner. "Trespassing"
without the owner's permission is illegal.

... Cite one case where tresspass law has been applied to patents.

No thanks. I'd rather argue with people who can spell :-)

Nick