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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:16 pm
The United States has 275 billion tons of easily recoverable coal.

http://www.purdue.edu/dp/energy/pdf/Basic9-Reserves-Apr07.pdf

The United States has over 1,000,000 sq km of of sunny lands.

http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve.cgi

The United States has the technology to make hydrogen from sunlight
and water at less than $200 per metric ton

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling


Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.



And the United States has the ability to transmit low-cost hydrogen by
pipeline and in liquid form, to any point of use at a cost of $70 per
metric ton of hydrogen.

http://catalog.asme.org/STLLC/PrintBook/2005_Hydrogen_Standardization.cfm

With low-cost hydrogen made from sunlight, coal may be converted to
oil WITHOUT PRODUCING ANY EMISSIONS. By adding 100 kg of hydrogen to
a ton of coal 7 barrels of gasoline can be made by THE BERGIUS
PROCESS.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR US DOMINANCE OF TODAY;S ENERGY MARKET

Goal: Produce 20% more than US needs, allowing US to export energy
and determine price.

WHAT THE US NOW USES

Here's the relevant data;

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

The US in 2006 had net imports of 12.6 million barrels of crude oil
per day and production of 5.3 million barrels per day and 1.7 million
barrels of process gas liquids from the natural gas industry, with a
total consumption of 19.6 million barrels of crude oil per day.whic
turns into 20.5 million barrels per day of product after processing
gains of 0.9 million barrels per day.

Processing gain comes from the fact that when you mix two things
together, their volumes don't add up to what they are separately. So,
when you separate out different fractions of a mixed crude oil, you
get a slight gain in total volume. The total mass of course stays the
same.

WHAT THE US NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OF ITS ENERGY SITUATION

Reversing our imports from 12.6 million bbls/day of crude oil to 4.1
million bbls per day of exports requires an increase of 16.7 million
bbls/day of crude oil production within the United States. To do this
with the Bergius process requires that 2.4 million tons of coal each
day be converted to gasoline using 240,000 tons of hydrogen each day.
Using coal already being produced for use by coal fired power plants,
we need an additional 387,000 tons of hydrogen per day to burn in
those plants instead of the coal we're using. In this way the added
crude oil is carbon neutral, and the US actually reduces its overall
carbon footprint.

Converted to annual figures these become 876.6 million tons of coal
per year and 229.1 million tons of hydrogen each year to produce 6.1
billion barrels of liquid fuels.

THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CONTROL

The reason Saudi Arabia controls the energy prices in the world is
because Saudi Arabia can at will decide to export more than they need,
and by determining the cost of this excess, they can exercise a
powerful influence on market price for oil.

By creating an infrastructure that uses sunlight and water and coal
all here in the US to make a high-quality crude oil, without producing
any emissions - at a cost of about $8 to $11 per barrel - the US can
wrest control from OPEC in setting oil prices - and the US can
stabilize its currency by having the ability to sell something into
the global marketplace to balance its imbalance of trade. These two
effects multiply together to stabilize the US economy, and permit the
US to grow without worrying overmuch about the Middle East.

Since low cost hydrogen made from sunlight and water are at the heart
of this propose system - it forms the basis of a future hydrogen
economy that once developed, will displace and dominate other forms of
energy production going forward.

DOES THE US HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THIS

Yes. The US consumes about 1.1 billion tons of coal each year. Most
of this is used to produce electricity, and generates about 3.5
billion tons of carbon dioxide each year. Replacing this coal with
177 million tons of hydrogen gas delivered by pipeline to the coal
fired generators, eliminates this carbon emission, and makes the coal
available for conversion to gasoline using the Bergius process.
Adding another 110 million tons of hydrogen gas to the unburned coal
produces 7.7 billion barrels of liquid fuels.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

My system

http://www.usoal.com

Produces 6,460 tons of hydrogen gas per square kilometer per year.
The CAPEX of each square kilometer of system costs in quantity $12.6
million per sq km. To use all its current coal production for liquid
fuel production and displace all current coal use with hydrogen burned
instead of coal - requires the production of 287 million tons of
hydrogen gas per year. So, 44,427 sq km of solar collectors are
needed. This will have an installe cost of $559.8 billion - less than
half than the cost of the Iraqi invasion.

The US bureau of land management has over 50,000 sq km of desert
surface mines that is under its control. These abandoned mines may be
returned to productive use by allowing me to install solar panels on
them.

With $22 billion invested in 14 panel production plants - 15 sq km of
solar panels can be produced each day. The plants will require 3
years to construct and after that it will take 8 years to populate the
sites. So, 11 years from today we can have sufficient solar hydrogen
to achieve our goal of dominating the demand for oil. Over 10,000
people will be employed at these factories - and another 35,000 will
be employed building them.

The Bergius reactor is expected to have a CAPEX of $350 per ton of
coal per year processed. So, the reactors will cost a total of $385
billion. 70 of these emissionless coal conversion plants located
strategically around the United States. Each will cost $5.5 billion
and produce 300,000 barrels of petroleum products per day. These will
be constructed over an 11.1 year period to be ready when the hydrogen
is at full production. This will employ 174,000 over this period.

THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM

The value of 21 million barrels of liquid fuel produced each day at a
margin of $90 per barrel is $1.89 billion per day. That's $690.32
billion per year!!! At 10x earnings, this is a value of $6.9
TRILLION!!! The capital expense is $559.8 billion for the solar/
hydrogen part, and $350 billion for the coal/oil part. This is a
total CAPEX of $909.8 billion. A 7.58 to 1 value to investment. Over
the 11.1 year development period, this provides 20% annualized rate of
return if all the money is invested on day one. This of course isn't
required. An investment program based on efficiently spaced capital
flows would easily provide a 40% annualized rate of return for all
investors over this period..40% annualized rates of return are
sufficient to attract venture capital.

WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO

Highlight this project and assist with regulatory approvals that ease
its introduction and installation across the country.

Get the ball rolling by purchasing crude oil from the system at market
rates in quantities sufficient to fill the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve. An off-take contract for 500 million barrels at $98 per
barrel - paid when the petroleum is delivered in 11.1 years - is a
contract worth $49 billion. This off-take contract,along with
favorable regulatory treatment is sufficient to allow me to raise
sufficient money to build the 14 solar panel plants,organize the
45,000 sq km of desert lands, arrange the rights of way for all the
pipelines,and site all 70 of the coal conversion plants, along with
converting coal fired electrical generators to hydrogen,

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS

The US having a clear vision of its energy future, and the means to
increase production of oil from domestic reserves, will immediately
stabilize its markets and create a powerful means to negotiate price
reductions in the crude oil markets.

FUTURE BENEFITS

All the energy used in the US may be displaced with hydrogen
directly. Solar hydrogen is an important part of this program here.
Once proven on this scale, it will be a simple matter to expand
hydrogen production to displace declining outputs of crude oil going
forward.



http://www.spr.doe.gov/
BradGuth
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:47 pm
Guest
Just make those spare/surplus tonnes of H2 or LH2 and call it good.
You'll become richer and more powerful than Warren Buffett in no time
at all. Start small, with perhaps as little as selling off one tonne
of your PV cheap and squeaky clean hydrogen per month. If need be,
start off by selling it on Craigslist.
- Brad Guth


On Jan 25, 10:16 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
The United States has 275 billion tons of easily recoverable coal.

http://www.purdue.edu/dp/energy/pdf/Basic9-Reserves-Apr07.pdf

The United States has over 1,000,000 sq km of of sunny lands.

http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve.cgi

The United States has the technology to make hydrogen from sunlight
and water at less than $200 per metric ton

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

And the United States has the ability to transmit low-cost hydrogen by
pipeline and in liquid form, to any point of use at a cost of $70 per
metric ton of hydrogen.

http://catalog.asme.org/STLLC/PrintBook/2005_Hydrogen_Standardization...

With low-cost hydrogen made from sunlight, coal may be converted to
oil WITHOUT PRODUCING ANY EMISSIONS. By adding 100 kg of hydrogen to
a ton of coal 7 barrels of gasoline can be made by THE BERGIUS
PROCESS.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR US DOMINANCE OF TODAY;S ENERGY MARKET

Goal: Produce 20% more than US needs, allowing US to export energy
and determine price.

WHAT THE US NOW USES

Here's the relevant data;

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

The US in 2006 had net imports of 12.6 million barrels of crude oil
per day and production of 5.3 million barrels per day and 1.7 million
barrels of process gas liquids from the natural gas industry, with a
total consumption of 19.6 million barrels of crude oil per day.whic
turns into 20.5 million barrels per day of product after processing
gains of 0.9 million barrels per day.

Processing gain comes from the fact that when you mix two things
together, their volumes don't add up to what they are separately. So,
when you separate out different fractions of a mixed crude oil, you
get a slight gain in total volume. The total mass of course stays the
same.

WHAT THE US NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OF ITS ENERGY SITUATION

Reversing our imports from 12.6 million bbls/day of crude oil to 4.1
million bbls per day of exports requires an increase of 16.7 million
bbls/day of crude oil production within the United States. To do this
with the Bergius process requires that 2.4 million tons of coal each
day be converted to gasoline using 240,000 tons of hydrogen each day.
Using coal already being produced for use by coal fired power plants,
we need an additional 387,000 tons of hydrogen per day to burn in
those plants instead of the coal we're using. In this way the added
crude oil is carbon neutral, and the US actually reduces its overall
carbon footprint.

Converted to annual figures these become 876.6 million tons of coal
per year and 229.1 million tons of hydrogen each year to produce 6.1
billion barrels of liquid fuels.

THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CONTROL

The reason Saudi Arabia controls the energy prices in the world is
because Saudi Arabia can at will decide to export more than they need,
and by determining the cost of this excess, they can exercise a
powerful influence on market price for oil.

By creating an infrastructure that uses sunlight and water and coal
all here in the US to make a high-quality crude oil, without producing
any emissions - at a cost of about $8 to $11 per barrel - the US can
wrest control from OPEC in setting oil prices - and the US can
stabilize its currency by having the ability to sell something into
the global marketplace to balance its imbalance of trade. These two
effects multiply together to stabilize the US economy, and permit the
US to grow without worrying overmuch about the Middle East.

Since low cost hydrogen made from sunlight and water are at the heart
of this propose system - it forms the basis of a future hydrogen
economy that once developed, will displace and dominate other forms of
energy production going forward.

DOES THE US HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THIS

Yes. The US consumes about 1.1 billion tons of coal each year. Most
of this is used to produce electricity, and generates about 3.5
billion tons of carbon dioxide each year. Replacing this coal with
177 million tons of hydrogen gas delivered by pipeline to the coal
fired generators, eliminates this carbon emission, and makes the coal
available for conversion to gasoline using the Bergius process.
Adding another 110 million tons of hydrogen gas to the unburned coal
produces 7.7 billion barrels of liquid fuels.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

My system

http://www.usoal.com

Produces 6,460 tons of hydrogen gas per square kilometer per year.
The CAPEX of each square kilometer of system costs in quantity $12.6
million per sq km. To use all its current coal production for liquid
fuel production and displace all current coal use with hydrogen burned
instead of coal - requires the production of 287 million tons of
hydrogen gas per year. So, 44,427 sq km of solar collectors are
needed. This will have an installe cost of $559.8 billion - less than
half than the cost of the Iraqi invasion.

The US bureau of land management has over 50,000 sq km of desert
surface mines that is under its control. These abandoned mines may be
returned to productive use by allowing me to install solar panels on
them.

With $22 billion invested in 14 panel production plants - 15 sq km of
solar panels can be produced each day. The plants will require 3
years to construct and after that it will take 8 years to populate the
sites. So, 11 years from today we can have sufficient solar hydrogen
to achieve our goal of dominating the demand for oil. Over 10,000
people will be employed at these factories - and another 35,000 will
be employed building them.

The Bergius reactor is expected to have a CAPEX of $350 per ton of
coal per year processed. So, the reactors will cost a total of $385
billion. 70 of these emissionless coal conversion plants located
strategically around the United States. Each will cost $5.5 billion
and produce 300,000 barrels of petroleum products per day. These will
be constructed over an 11.1 year period to be ready when the hydrogen
is at full production. This will employ 174,000 over this period.

THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM

The value of 21 million barrels of liquid fuel produced each day at a
margin of $90 per barrel is $1.89 billion per day. That's $690.32
billion per year!!! At 10x earnings, this is a value of $6.9
TRILLION!!! The capital expense is $559.8 billion for the solar/
hydrogen part, and $350 billion for the coal/oil part. This is a
total CAPEX of $909.8 billion. A 7.58 to 1 value to investment. Over
the 11.1 year development period, this provides 20% annualized rate of
return if all the money is invested on day one. This of course isn't
required. An investment program based on efficiently spaced capital
flows would easily provide a 40% annualized rate of return for all
investors over this period..40% annualized rates of return are
sufficient to attract venture capital.

WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO

Highlight this project and assist with regulatory approvals that ease
its introduction and installation across the country.

Get the ball rolling by purchasing crude oil from the system at market
rates in quantities sufficient to fill the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve. An off-take contract for 500 million barrels at $98 per
barrel - paid when the petroleum is delivered in 11.1 years - is a
contract worth $49 billion. This off-take contract,along with
favorable regulatory treatment is sufficient to allow me to raise
sufficient money to build the 14 solar panel plants,organize the
45,000 sq km of desert lands, arrange the rights of way for all the
pipelines,and site all 70 of the coal conversion plants, along with
converting coal fired electrical generators to hydrogen,

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS

The US having a clear vision of its energy future, and the means to
increase production of oil from domestic reserves, will immediately
stabilize its markets and create a powerful means to negotiate price
reductions in the crude oil markets.

FUTURE BENEFITS

All the energy used in the US may be displaced with hydrogen
directly. Solar hydrogen is an important part of this program here.
Once proven on this scale, it will be a simple matter to expand
hydrogen production to displace declining outputs of crude oil going
forward.

http://www.spr.doe.gov/
JakTheHammer
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:35 pm
Guest
Willie,
If this is true, you should contact the dept. of Energy ASAP. I bet you already did, they ignored you, that's why you are here. Am I right?

Jack.



<Willie.Mookie@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3228a0bf-4bda-475a-8d85-288f406fe538@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
The United States has 275 billion tons of easily recoverable coal.

http://www.purdue.edu/dp/energy/pdf/Basic9-Reserves-Apr07.pdf

The United States has over 1,000,000 sq km of of sunny lands.

http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve.cgi

The United States has the technology to make hydrogen from sunlight
and water at less than $200 per metric ton

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling


Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.



And the United States has the ability to transmit low-cost hydrogen by
pipeline and in liquid form, to any point of use at a cost of $70 per
metric ton of hydrogen.

http://catalog.asme.org/STLLC/PrintBook/2005_Hydrogen_Standardization.cfm

With low-cost hydrogen made from sunlight, coal may be converted to
oil WITHOUT PRODUCING ANY EMISSIONS. By adding 100 kg of hydrogen to
a ton of coal 7 barrels of gasoline can be made by THE BERGIUS
PROCESS.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR US DOMINANCE OF TODAY;S ENERGY MARKET

Goal: Produce 20% more than US needs, allowing US to export energy
and determine price.

WHAT THE US NOW USES

Here's the relevant data;

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

The US in 2006 had net imports of 12.6 million barrels of crude oil
per day and production of 5.3 million barrels per day and 1.7 million
barrels of process gas liquids from the natural gas industry, with a
total consumption of 19.6 million barrels of crude oil per day.whic
turns into 20.5 million barrels per day of product after processing
gains of 0.9 million barrels per day.

Processing gain comes from the fact that when you mix two things
together, their volumes don't add up to what they are separately. So,
when you separate out different fractions of a mixed crude oil, you
get a slight gain in total volume. The total mass of course stays the
same.

WHAT THE US NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OF ITS ENERGY SITUATION

Reversing our imports from 12.6 million bbls/day of crude oil to 4.1
million bbls per day of exports requires an increase of 16.7 million
bbls/day of crude oil production within the United States. To do this
with the Bergius process requires that 2.4 million tons of coal each
day be converted to gasoline using 240,000 tons of hydrogen each day.
Using coal already being produced for use by coal fired power plants,
we need an additional 387,000 tons of hydrogen per day to burn in
those plants instead of the coal we're using. In this way the added
crude oil is carbon neutral, and the US actually reduces its overall
carbon footprint.

Converted to annual figures these become 876.6 million tons of coal
per year and 229.1 million tons of hydrogen each year to produce 6.1
billion barrels of liquid fuels.

THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CONTROL

The reason Saudi Arabia controls the energy prices in the world is
because Saudi Arabia can at will decide to export more than they need,
and by determining the cost of this excess, they can exercise a
powerful influence on market price for oil.

By creating an infrastructure that uses sunlight and water and coal
all here in the US to make a high-quality crude oil, without producing
any emissions - at a cost of about $8 to $11 per barrel - the US can
wrest control from OPEC in setting oil prices - and the US can
stabilize its currency by having the ability to sell something into
the global marketplace to balance its imbalance of trade. These two
effects multiply together to stabilize the US economy, and permit the
US to grow without worrying overmuch about the Middle East.

Since low cost hydrogen made from sunlight and water are at the heart
of this propose system - it forms the basis of a future hydrogen
economy that once developed, will displace and dominate other forms of
energy production going forward.

DOES THE US HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THIS

Yes. The US consumes about 1.1 billion tons of coal each year. Most
of this is used to produce electricity, and generates about 3.5
billion tons of carbon dioxide each year. Replacing this coal with
177 million tons of hydrogen gas delivered by pipeline to the coal
fired generators, eliminates this carbon emission, and makes the coal
available for conversion to gasoline using the Bergius process.
Adding another 110 million tons of hydrogen gas to the unburned coal
produces 7.7 billion barrels of liquid fuels.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

My system

http://www.usoal.com

Produces 6,460 tons of hydrogen gas per square kilometer per year.
The CAPEX of each square kilometer of system costs in quantity $12.6
million per sq km. To use all its current coal production for liquid
fuel production and displace all current coal use with hydrogen burned
instead of coal - requires the production of 287 million tons of
hydrogen gas per year. So, 44,427 sq km of solar collectors are
needed. This will have an installe cost of $559.8 billion - less than
half than the cost of the Iraqi invasion.

The US bureau of land management has over 50,000 sq km of desert
surface mines that is under its control. These abandoned mines may be
returned to productive use by allowing me to install solar panels on
them.

With $22 billion invested in 14 panel production plants - 15 sq km of
solar panels can be produced each day. The plants will require 3
years to construct and after that it will take 8 years to populate the
sites. So, 11 years from today we can have sufficient solar hydrogen
to achieve our goal of dominating the demand for oil. Over 10,000
people will be employed at these factories - and another 35,000 will
be employed building them.

The Bergius reactor is expected to have a CAPEX of $350 per ton of
coal per year processed. So, the reactors will cost a total of $385
billion. 70 of these emissionless coal conversion plants located
strategically around the United States. Each will cost $5.5 billion
and produce 300,000 barrels of petroleum products per day. These will
be constructed over an 11.1 year period to be ready when the hydrogen
is at full production. This will employ 174,000 over this period.

THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM

The value of 21 million barrels of liquid fuel produced each day at a
margin of $90 per barrel is $1.89 billion per day. That's $690.32
billion per year!!! At 10x earnings, this is a value of $6.9
TRILLION!!! The capital expense is $559.8 billion for the solar/
hydrogen part, and $350 billion for the coal/oil part. This is a
total CAPEX of $909.8 billion. A 7.58 to 1 value to investment. Over
the 11.1 year development period, this provides 20% annualized rate of
return if all the money is invested on day one. This of course isn't
required. An investment program based on efficiently spaced capital
flows would easily provide a 40% annualized rate of return for all
investors over this period..40% annualized rates of return are
sufficient to attract venture capital.

WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO

Highlight this project and assist with regulatory approvals that ease
its introduction and installation across the country.

Get the ball rolling by purchasing crude oil from the system at market
rates in quantities sufficient to fill the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve. An off-take contract for 500 million barrels at $98 per
barrel - paid when the petroleum is delivered in 11.1 years - is a
contract worth $49 billion. This off-take contract,along with
favorable regulatory treatment is sufficient to allow me to raise
sufficient money to build the 14 solar panel plants,organize the
45,000 sq km of desert lands, arrange the rights of way for all the
pipelines,and site all 70 of the coal conversion plants, along with
converting coal fired electrical generators to hydrogen,

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS

The US having a clear vision of its energy future, and the means to
increase production of oil from domestic reserves, will immediately
stabilize its markets and create a powerful means to negotiate price
reductions in the crude oil markets.

FUTURE BENEFITS

All the energy used in the US may be displaced with hydrogen
directly. Solar hydrogen is an important part of this program here.
Once proven on this scale, it will be a simple matter to expand
hydrogen production to displace declining outputs of crude oil going
forward.



http://www.spr.doe.gov/


Guest
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:37 pm
On Jan 26, 4:35 pm, "JakTheHammer" <jakthh...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Willie,
If this is true, you should contact the dept. of Energy ASAP.  I bet you already did, they ignored you, that's why you are here.  Am I right?

Jack.



Willie.Moo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:3228a0bf-4bda-475a-8d85-288f406fe538@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
The United States has 275 billion tons of easily recoverable coal.

http://www.purdue.edu/dp/energy/pdf/Basic9-Reserves-Apr07.pdf

The United States has over 1,000,000 sq km of of sunny lands.

http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve.cgi

The United States has the technology to make hydrogen from sunlight
and water at less than $200 per metric ton

United States Patent  7,081,584
Mook  July 25, 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

And the United States has the ability to transmit low-cost hydrogen by
pipeline and in liquid form, to any point of use at a cost of $70 per
metric ton of hydrogen.

http://catalog.asme.org/STLLC/PrintBook/2005_Hydrogen_Standardization...

With low-cost hydrogen made from sunlight, coal may be converted to
oil WITHOUT PRODUCING ANY EMISSIONS.   By adding 100 kg of hydrogen to
a ton of coal 7 barrels of gasoline can be made by THE BERGIUS
PROCESS.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR US DOMINANCE OF TODAY;S ENERGY MARKET

Goal:  Produce 20% more than US needs, allowing US to export energy
and determine price.

WHAT THE US NOW USES

Here's the relevant data;

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

The US in 2006 had net imports of 12.6 million barrels of crude oil
per day and production of 5.3 million barrels per day and 1.7 million
barrels of process gas liquids from the natural gas industry, with a
total consumption of 19.6 million barrels of crude oil per day.whic
turns into 20.5 million barrels per day of product after processing
gains of 0.9 million barrels per day.

Processing gain comes from the fact that when you mix two things
together, their volumes don't add up to what they are separately.  So,
when you separate out different fractions of a mixed crude oil, you
get a slight gain in total volume.  The total mass of course stays the
same.

WHAT THE US NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OF ITS ENERGY SITUATION

Reversing our imports from 12.6 million bbls/day of crude oil to 4.1
million bbls per day of exports requires an increase of 16.7 million
bbls/day of crude oil production within the United States.  To do this
with the Bergius process requires that 2.4 million tons of coal each
day be converted to gasoline using 240,000 tons of hydrogen each day.
Using coal already being produced for use by coal fired power plants,
we need an additional 387,000 tons of hydrogen per day to burn in
those plants instead of the coal we're using.  In this way the added
crude oil is carbon neutral, and the US actually reduces its overall
carbon footprint.

Converted to annual figures these become 876.6 million tons of coal
per year and 229.1 million tons of hydrogen each year to produce 6.1
billion barrels of liquid fuels.

THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CONTROL

The reason Saudi Arabia controls the energy prices in the world is
because Saudi Arabia can at will decide to export more than they need,
and by determining the cost of this excess, they can exercise a
powerful influence on market price for oil.

By creating an infrastructure that uses sunlight and water and coal
all here in the US to make a high-quality crude oil, without producing
any emissions - at a cost of about $8 to $11 per barrel - the US can
wrest control from OPEC in setting oil prices - and the US can
stabilize its currency by having the ability to sell something into
the global marketplace to balance its imbalance of trade.  These two
effects multiply together to stabilize the US economy, and permit the
US to grow without worrying overmuch about the Middle East.

Since low cost hydrogen made from sunlight and water are at the heart
of this propose system - it forms the basis of a future hydrogen
economy that once developed, will displace and dominate other forms of
energy production going forward.

DOES THE US HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THIS

Yes.  The US consumes about 1.1 billion tons of coal each year.  Most
of this is used to produce electricity, and generates about 3.5
billion tons of carbon dioxide each year.  Replacing this coal with
177 million tons of hydrogen gas delivered by pipeline to the coal
fired generators, eliminates this carbon emission, and makes the coal
available for conversion to gasoline using the Bergius process.
Adding another 110 million tons of hydrogen gas to the unburned coal
produces 7.7 billion barrels of liquid fuels.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

My system

http://www.usoal.com

Produces 6,460 tons of hydrogen gas per square kilometer per year.
The CAPEX of each square kilometer of system costs in quantity $12.6
million per sq km.  To use all its current coal production for liquid
fuel production and displace all current coal use with hydrogen burned
instead of coal - requires the production of 287 million tons of
hydrogen gas per year.  So, 44,427 sq km of solar collectors are
needed.  This will have an installe cost of $559.8 billion - less than
half than the cost of the Iraqi invasion.

The US bureau of land management has over 50,000 sq km of desert
surface mines that is under its control.  These abandoned mines may be
returned to productive use by allowing me to install solar panels on
them.

With $22 billion invested in 14 panel production plants - 15 sq km of
solar panels can be produced each day.  The plants will require 3
years to construct and after that it will take 8 years to populate the
sites.  So, 11 years from today we can have sufficient solar hydrogen
to achieve our goal of dominating the demand for oil.  Over 10,000
people will be employed at these factories - and another  35,000 will
be employed building them.

The Bergius reactor is expected to have a CAPEX of $350 per ton of
coal per year processed.  So, the reactors will cost a total of  $385
billion.   70 of these emissionless coal conversion plants located
strategically around the United States.  Each will cost $5.5 billion
and produce 300,000 barrels of petroleum products per day.  These will
be constructed over an 11.1 year period to be ready when the hydrogen
is at full production.  This will employ 174,000 over this period.

THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM

The value of 21 million barrels of liquid fuel produced each day at a
margin of $90 per barrel is $1.89 billion per day.  That's $690.32
billion per year!!!   At 10x earnings, this is a value of $6.9
TRILLION!!!   The capital expense is $559.8 billion for the solar/
hydrogen part, and $350 billion for the coal/oil part.  This is a
total CAPEX of $909.8 billion.  A 7.58 to 1 value to investment. Over
the 11.1 year development period, this provides 20% annualized rate of
return if all the money is invested on day one. This of course isn't
required. An investment program based on efficiently spaced capital
flows would easily provide a 40% annualized rate of return for all
investors over this period..40% annualized rates of return are
sufficient to attract venture capital.

WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO

Highlight this project and assist with regulatory approvals that ease
its introduction and installation across the country.

Get the ball rolling by purchasing crude oil from the system at market
rates in quantities sufficient to fill the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve.  An off-take contract for 500 million barrels at $98 per
barrel - paid when the petroleum is delivered in 11.1 years - is a
contract worth $49 billion.  This off-take contract,along with
favorable regulatory treatment is sufficient to allow me to raise
sufficient money to build the 14 solar panel plants,organize the
45,000 sq km of desert lands, arrange the rights of way for all the
pipelines,and site all 70 of the coal conversion plants, along with
converting coal fired electrical generators to hydrogen,

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS

The US having a clear vision of its energy future, and the means to
increase production of oil from domestic reserves, will immediately
stabilize its markets and create a powerful means to negotiate price
reductions in the crude oil markets.

FUTURE BENEFITS

All the energy used in the US may be displaced with hydrogen
directly.  Solar hydrogen is an important part of this program here.
Once proven on this scale, it will be a simple matter to expand
hydrogen production to displace declining outputs of crude oil going
forward.

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You obviously believe the two things are mutually exclusive, posting
on usenet and say writing White Papers for the Pentagon. haha.. They
are not.

I have been quite active for many years in Washington, and I have had
some impact on policy.

I have been active on Capitol Hill and visited OSTP at the White House
for four years now. I have had meetings and worked closely with DOE
NREL in Golden Colorado. I helped initiate DOE interest in CPV
technology there back in 1998. I have met with governors in many
states that have resources, coal, sunlight, and urge them to take
action. I think I have done as well as can be expected.

Yet there is only so much government can do in a free country. There
are many things and many interests to consider, and there are those
who worry that a program such as I outline here would create economic
hardship in an industry vitally important to the security of our
nation.
Guest
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:31 pm
On Jan 26, 7:47 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Just make those spare/surplus tonnes of H2 or LH2 and call it good.
You'll become richer and more powerful than Warren Buffett in no time
at all.  

That is possible. One analyst many years ago said I'd be richer than
Bill Gates. In fact, he said Bill Gates would be toe jam beneath my
feet. He is worth only a scant $100 billion - this is a business that
dominates a $4 trillion a year market with 80% margins and grows at
double digit rates if unlimited in supply, creating the money to pay
for it, and could be $40 trillion in less than 25 years. Communism
and statist fantasies are dead. The Chinese are and Indians are
adopting more market driven systems, the world is poised for an
industrial development unprecedented in scope and size. And this
technology is the right thing at the right time.

Now, about the details. You are correct. Get the details right, and
I can be the wealthiest man in history with this technology. Get the
details wrong and I will be a footnote in history and someone else
gets the glorly.

For every Bill Gates there is a Tim Patterson, for every John
Rockerfellar a Maurice Clarke.

Quote:
Start small, with perhaps as little as selling off one tonne
of your PV cheap and squeaky clean hydrogen per month.  

Starting small and under-capitalized loses me quality vendors and
quality employees, and does more to signal my competitors than
establish me as a going business. Starting small means that my limited
capital is being used to resolve difficult problems while gaining
nothing of a competitive nature. In short, it is the very worst thing
one can do.

That is why I have several projects underway overseas involving
200,000 barrels per day of oil production. I had started in the US,
with a number of interesting sites here. But Sarbanes Oxley and other
concerns within the US have put those plans on hold until we're
actually shipping product overseas.

That's just the way things are for this business at this time in this
place. Meanwhile, other folks in the energy business are positioning
themselves to take advantage of this haitus - you really should expect
no less of them - and I am doing the best I can to follow a plan that
involves the greatest reward for the least risk..

The key to making a good deal, is walking away from a bad one.
Another key is to know a good deal from a bad deal.

Quote:
If need be,
start off by selling it on Craigslist.
- Brad Guth

Why? Why not make a commodity that just by having it people will
seek you out and demand to buy it at market rates? That's why I
started with oil. Once I start shipping 400,000 barrels of oil each
day, made with 58,000 tons of coal each day, and 6,300 tons of
hydrogen each day - I will then carry out a half dozen projects to
expand this business along the lines most favorable to me - without
having to convince anyone of anything.

400,000 barrels per day with a $90 margin per barrel, produces a gross
margin of $13 billion per year. At 10x earnings this has market cap
of $130 billion. The cost of these two projects are $14 billion. I
own 35% of this output as project sponsor and technology provider. I
sold the PROJECT not the technology, not the business. Just the
project.

These projects will realize a $40.6 billion profit for me when
completed. I am leveraging that value now to do 6 additional projects
around the world. These involve trading hydrogen for coal at a
variety of power plants around the world, taking that coal, and
converting it to petrol.

These projects are being financed by leveraging the value I hold in
the two original projects - and will be completed within a year of the
first two.

The next step is to come back to the USA. There I have some sunny
lands that are stranded, along with some coal mine capacity that is
tranded - targeted for acquisition. I also have rights of way
targeted to tie these lands into the national power grid, along with
old gas wells that are used for 100 day storage of hydrogen gas from
the sites just mentioned.

With that infrastructure in place, I will supply 156 coal fired power
plants that are halted due to environmental concerns in the US with
hydrogen - totalling nearly 80 GW of electrical capacity. I will take
the coal in trade, and convert the coal into petrol . This will get
me 791,000 tons of coal per day on long-term contracts, while allowing
these power plants to operate with assurances of no coal price
increases for up to 20 years. The coal plus 81,000 tons of hydrogen
per day (in addition to the 129,000 tons of hydrogen used by the
utilities) - makes 5.5 million barrels of petrol per day. Nearly half
the US imports. The $280 billion for this program will be raised step
fashion, leveraging the off-take contracts from each of the power
plants on my list to populate the land and rights of way, using the
productive capacity developed to supply the 8 projects overseas with
panels, reactors and so forth..

I am also interested in doing a leveraged buyout of Sunoco and
Westmoreland Coal - to create an integrated alternative oil company.
With the productive capacity just described along with 2 billion tons
of proved reserves of coal, the market would value the integrated oil
company as if it has 14 billion barrels of DOMESTIC RESERVES - of 'sun-
fuel' - where half the energy in each gallon comes from the sun!! The
combined value of the companies following a leveraged buyout ould rise
from $12 billion today to over $350 bilion after the merger with my
ongoing operations.

All the debts built up during the build out of the 11,000 sq kmof
desert lands with solar panels, and thousands of kilometers of
hydrogen pipelines, along with the 18 coal conversion plants - will be
paid down, or paid off through this operation.

At this point I will be free to expand the number of stations, by
buying up other oil re-marketers and incorporating them in the
integrated alternative oil network - as well as committing to sell 20%
of our total energy product in the form of hydrogen at retail. 1 in 5
pumps nationwide will be hydrogen pumps,

When this is completed I will sell hydrogen at a 20% discount over
market prices for the equivalent heat value of petroleum products. A
kg of hydrogen has the same heat value as a gallon of gasoline. So,
if gasoline sells for $3.50 per gallon, I will well a kg of hydrogen
for $2.80. I will also sell petroleum products at 5% below market
rates nationwide - so if the market rate is $3.50 - I will sell my gas
for $3.32.

Since my retail price for hydrogen is $0.80 per kg - and my production
cost of gasoline is $0.30 per gallon - its easy to see without huge
transport and exploration costs - I can put downward pressure on oil
prices.

In the end, as the volume of hydrogen fuel increases relative to oil,
I will sell gasoline as a loss leader to keep the downward pressure on
liquid fuels -

Quote:
On Jan 25, 10:16 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:



The United States has 275 billion tons of easily recoverable coal.

http://www.purdue.edu/dp/energy/pdf/Basic9-Reserves-Apr07.pdf

The United States has over 1,000,000 sq km of of sunny lands.

http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve.cgi

The United States has the technology to make hydrogen from sunlight
and water at less than $200 per metric ton

United States Patent  7,081,584
Mook  July 25, 2006

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Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

And the United States has the ability to transmit low-cost hydrogen by
pipeline and in liquid form, to any point of use at a cost of $70 per
metric ton of hydrogen.

http://catalog.asme.org/STLLC/PrintBook/2005_Hydrogen_Standardization...

With low-cost hydrogen made from sunlight, coal may be converted to
oil WITHOUT PRODUCING ANY EMISSIONS.   By adding 100 kg of hydrogen to
a ton of coal 7 barrels of gasoline can be made by THE BERGIUS
PROCESS.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR US DOMINANCE OF TODAY;S ENERGY MARKET

Goal:  Produce 20% more than US needs, allowing US to export energy
and determine price.

WHAT THE US NOW USES

Here's the relevant data;

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pa...

The US in 2006 had net imports of 12.6 million barrels of crude oil
per day and production of 5.3 million barrels per day and 1.7 million
barrels of process gas liquids from the natural gas industry, with a
total consumption of 19.6 million barrels of crude oil per day.whic
turns into 20.5 million barrels per day of product after processing
gains of 0.9 million barrels per day.

Processing gain comes from the fact that when you mix two things
together, their volumes don't add up to what they are separately.  So,
when you separate out different fractions of a mixed crude oil, you
get a slight gain in total volume.  The total mass of course stays the
same.

WHAT THE US NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OF ITS ENERGY SITUATION

Reversing our imports from 12.6 million bbls/day of crude oil to 4.1
million bbls per day of exports requires an increase of 16.7 million
bbls/day of crude oil production within the United States.  To do this
with the Bergius process requires that 2.4 million tons of coal each
day be converted to gasoline using 240,000 tons of hydrogen each day.
Using coal already being produced for use by coal fired power plants,
we need an additional 387,000 tons of hydrogen per day to burn in
those plants instead of the coal we're using.  In this way the added
crude oil is carbon neutral, and the US actually reduces its overall
carbon footprint.

Converted to annual figures these become 876.6 million tons of coal
per year and 229.1 million tons of hydrogen each year to produce 6.1
billion barrels of liquid fuels.

THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CONTROL

The reason Saudi Arabia controls the energy prices in the world is
because Saudi Arabia can at will decide to export more than they need,
and by determining the cost of this excess, they can exercise a
powerful influence on market price for oil.

By creating an infrastructure that uses sunlight and water and coal
all here in the US to make a high-quality crude oil, without producing
any emissions - at a cost of about $8 to $11 per barrel - the US can
wrest control from OPEC in setting oil prices - and the US can
stabilize its currency by having the ability to sell something into
the global marketplace to balance its imbalance of trade.  These two
effects multiply together to stabilize the US economy, and permit the
US to grow without worrying overmuch about the Middle East.

Since low cost hydrogen made from sunlight and water are at the heart
of this propose system - it forms the basis of a future hydrogen
economy that once developed, will displace and dominate other forms of
energy production going forward.

DOES THE US HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THIS

Yes.  The US consumes about 1.1 billion tons of coal each year.  Most
of this is used to produce electricity, and generates about 3.5
billion tons of carbon dioxide each year.  Replacing this coal with
177 million tons of hydrogen gas delivered by pipeline to the coal
fired generators, eliminates this carbon emission, and makes the coal
available for conversion to gasoline using the Bergius process.
Adding another 110 million tons of hydrogen gas to the unburned coal
produces 7.7 billion barrels of liquid fuels.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

My system

http://www.usoal.com

Produces 6,460 tons of hydrogen gas per square kilometer per year.
The CAPEX of each square kilometer of system costs in quantity $12.6
million per sq km.  To use all its current coal production for liquid
fuel production and displace all current coal use with hydrogen burned
instead of coal - requires the production of 287 million tons of
hydrogen gas per year.  So, 44,427 sq km of solar collectors are
needed.  This will have an installe cost of $559.8 billion - less than
half than the cost of the Iraqi invasion.

The US bureau of land management has over 50,000 sq km of desert
surface mines that is under its control.  These abandoned mines may be
returned to productive use by allowing me to install solar panels on
them.

With $22 billion invested in 14 panel production plants - 15 sq km of
solar panels can be produced each day.  The plants will require 3
years to construct and after that it will take 8 years to populate the
sites.  So, 11 years from today we can have sufficient solar hydrogen
to achieve our goal of dominating the demand for oil.  Over 10,000
people will be employed at these factories - and another  35,000 will
be employed building them.

The Bergius reactor is expected to have a CAPEX of $350 per ton of
coal per year processed.  So, the reactors will cost a total of  $385
billion.   70 of these emissionless coal conversion plants located
strategically around the United States.  Each will cost $5.5 billion
and produce 300,000 barrels of petroleum products per day.  These will
be constructed over an 11.1 year period to be ready when the hydrogen
is at full production.  This will employ 174,000 over this period.

THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM

The value of 21 million barrels of liquid fuel produced each day at a
margin of $90 per barrel is $1.89 billion per day.  That's $690.32
billion per year!!!   At 10x earnings, this is a value of $6.9
TRILLION!!!   The capital expense is $559.8 billion for the solar/
hydrogen part, and $350 billion for the coal/oil part.  This is a
total CAPEX of $909.8 billion.  A 7.58 to 1 value to investment. Over
the 11.1 year development period, this provides 20% annualized rate of
return if all the money is invested on day one. This of course isn't
required. An investment program based on efficiently spaced capital
flows would easily provide a 40% annualized rate of return for all
investors over this period..40% annualized rates of return are
sufficient to attract venture capital.

WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO

Highlight this project and assist with regulatory approvals that ease
its introduction and installation across the country.

Get the ball rolling by purchasing crude oil from the system at market
rates in quantities sufficient to fill the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve.  An off-take contract for 500 million barrels at $98 per
barrel - paid when the petroleum is delivered in 11.1 years - is a
contract worth $49 billion.  This off-take contract,along with
favorable regulatory treatment is sufficient to allow me to raise
sufficient money to build the 14 solar panel plants,organize the
45,000 sq km of desert lands, arrange the rights of way for all the
pipelines,and site all 70 of the coal conversion plants, along with
converting coal fired electrical generators to hydrogen,

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS

The US having a clear vision of its energy future, and the means to
increase production of oil from domestic reserves, will immediately
stabilize its markets and create a powerful means to negotiate price
reductions in the crude oil markets.

FUTURE BENEFITS

All the energy used in the US may be displaced with hydrogen
directly.  Solar hydrogen is an important part of this program here.
Once proven on this scale, it will be a simple matter to expand
hydrogen production to displace declining outputs of crude oil going
forward.

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Guest
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:40 pm
On Jan 27, 12:28 am, "JakTheHammer" <jakthh...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Willie, you obviously think this is where you can help America by screaming on
the net and showing your stupidity?

I am helping America Jak, unlike the profiteering oil companies like
BP in London where you live. I am telling people about it. But, I'm
not screaming Jak, I'm talking very calmly and plainly and clearly..

You on the other hand Jak, haven't been able to back up one thing that
you've said with logic or facts. The only thing you're doing Jak is
calling me names and giving me really lousy advice. lol. Its funny
Jak, you're a funny man..

Quote:
1/2 the people here don't even believe in your funky theories.

Prove it Jak. No one takes ANYTHING you say seriously Jak - no one.
.
Quote:
 Like the other guy suggested, start small, sell 1-2 units on eBay (or Craigslist)

What you and Brad don't know Jak is that I did start small. I only
sold the output of two 200,000 barrel per day facilities that are each
sitting on enough coal to make 10 billion barrels of petrol.

Anyone in the bsiness will tell you with those kind of reserves,an
economic scale of production would support 700,000 barrels per day at
each facility easy. But this is a new and unproven technology Jak.
So, the banks decided to start small and work up from 200,000 b/d.

That way each facility only costs $7 billion - which is about the top
end we could get financing arranged for these sorts of projects at
this level of development..

Think about it this way. Most refineries run 300,000 barrels per
day. Most oil fields do more than that especially with large
reserves. The world consumes something like 84 million barrels per
day. 200,000 barrels, is at the low end of production - about as low
as you can go and still get quality work done and have people take you
seriously..

Check it out. My technology turns 1.5 billion tons of carbon that I
own into more than 10 billion barrels of liquid fuels. This makes
these 'fields' one of the larger ones in the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_fields

Yet I'm only producing a measly 200,000 barrels per day from each
field. Again, this has a lot to do with the fact its new technology
I'm using, and we were limited to about $7 billion per field - in
terms of project finance.

Put it another way. The discount rates were high. So at that cost of
capital we start with a smaller facility and when the risks are worked
down, capital costs get lower. That's when I do the rest of the build
out. ts just that simple.

Doing fields any smaller than this - say one production train for
20,000 b/d - means the non-recurring engineering charges are spread
across a far smaler production scale - which means that CAPEX is out
of control and we won't reach our target prices and all the rest. But
strategically Jak, look at what happens strategically. 20,000 b/d we
can't get the Singapore exchange to list us, we can't get serious
attention from major vendors, and so costs just escalate- no strategic
alliances can be formed - no one's on my team. But it gets worse Jak,
it gets considerably worse, because at 20,000 b/d - we're big enough
to work out all the engineering kinks and bugs - with people who have
no real commitment to us - and we're not economic enough without
putting our hand out for more money later - totally different than
monetizing a profit stream see? We're just prolonging the pain, and
giving our competitors a roadmap and motivating all our employees and
vendors to share that roadmap with more serious customers who
understand that when you need money - you go out and get the money you
need - before you start work.

The advice you're giving Jak is absolutely the worst advice possible.
Its something the other majors would love us for doing, but it
destroys any possibility I may have in holding on to this technology
going forward,

Quote:
. Stop being a DumbFuck, make it short and understable.

Jak, you're the one - really you are. Think about it. Everything you
say is demonstrably wrong. Obviously you're the one dog. Relax.
Look at you. You're giving me all sorts of advice. I didn't ask you
for any advice. I don't need your advice. And quite frankly, your
advice doesn't really hold a lot of merit since you are what you say
here I am - its you dog..

Look, I've got a sound reason not to sell equipment, not to sell
equity, not to sell technology. What am I selling? I'm selling oil
output on these first two projects. People are buying it. They are
getting better returns than in traditional oil field exploration -
which costs about as much and only has a 1 in 8 chance of making a
profit.

So, there are people who have bought that output today at a steep
discount. Which is good! That way I get to build own and operate
the facility without giving up too many secrets - no opportunity to
reverse engineer my stuff And I end up with 35% of the facility
output going forward, which can be monetized the day I start
production. I can even borrow against that before production begins.
So, everything is golden..

Sure, I have done a smallish sort of development here - only 6,300
tons of hydrogen a day - , given the size of the resource I've landed
here. But, its producing a revenue stream large enough for me to
attract the attention of quality vendors and quality people and
quality banks- and leaves me at the end of the day with a source of
revenue sufficient to continue operating the productive capacity I'm
building now - to expand my capacity along the lines I've already
described below.

What's dumb about that? Obviously nothing. Your commentary however
is another story.

I do have a little excess hydrogen slated for these facilities. Like
I said, I am intriqued by the idea of carrying out the hydrogen
conversion of an airliner,- reconfiguring it for STOL operation - and
then flying it out of London airport in the business district - the
the business district in Zurich, Germany, and Paris - that's something
I can do with a small portion of the wealth I'm creating for myself -
and lets me cast a long shadow wiith the investment community going
forward.

These are the things I'm doing Jak. I'll leave Craigslist to you to
find a date or whatever.

Cheers
William
.
JakTheHammer
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:28 am
Guest
Willie, you obviously think this is where you can help America by screaming on the net and showing your stupidity? 1/2 the people here don't even believe in your funky theories. Like the other guy suggested, start small, sell 1-2 units on eBay (or Craigslist). Stop being a DumbFuck, make it short and understable.



<Willie.Mookie@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b2369ad3-c1be-4575-97bd-bd99327760f4@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 26, 4:35 pm, "JakTheHammer" <jakthh...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Willie,
If this is true, you should contact the dept. of Energy ASAP. I bet you already did, they ignored you, that's why you are here. Am I right?

Jack.



Willie.Moo...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:3228a0bf-4bda-475a-8d85-288f406fe538@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups..com...
The United States has 275 billion tons of easily recoverable coal.

http://www.purdue.edu/dp/energy/pdf/Basic9-Reserves-Apr07.pdf

The United States has over 1,000,000 sq km of of sunny lands.

http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve.cgi

The United States has the technology to make hydrogen from sunlight
and water at less than $200 per metric ton

United States Patent 7,081,584
Mook July 25, 2006

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Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

And the United States has the ability to transmit low-cost hydrogen by
pipeline and in liquid form, to any point of use at a cost of $70 per
metric ton of hydrogen.

http://catalog.asme.org/STLLC/PrintBook/2005_Hydrogen_Standardization...

With low-cost hydrogen made from sunlight, coal may be converted to
oil WITHOUT PRODUCING ANY EMISSIONS. By adding 100 kg of hydrogen to
a ton of coal 7 barrels of gasoline can be made by THE BERGIUS
PROCESS.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR US DOMINANCE OF TODAY;S ENERGY MARKET

Goal: Produce 20% more than US needs, allowing US to export energy
and determine price.

WHAT THE US NOW USES

Here's the relevant data;

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

The US in 2006 had net imports of 12.6 million barrels of crude oil
per day and production of 5.3 million barrels per day and 1.7 million
barrels of process gas liquids from the natural gas industry, with a
total consumption of 19.6 million barrels of crude oil per day.whic
turns into 20.5 million barrels per day of product after processing
gains of 0.9 million barrels per day.

Processing gain comes from the fact that when you mix two things
together, their volumes don't add up to what they are separately. So,
when you separate out different fractions of a mixed crude oil, you
get a slight gain in total volume. The total mass of course stays the
same.

WHAT THE US NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OF ITS ENERGY SITUATION

Reversing our imports from 12.6 million bbls/day of crude oil to 4.1
million bbls per day of exports requires an increase of 16.7 million
bbls/day of crude oil production within the United States. To do this
with the Bergius process requires that 2.4 million tons of coal each
day be converted to gasoline using 240,000 tons of hydrogen each day.
Using coal already being produced for use by coal fired power plants,
we need an additional 387,000 tons of hydrogen per day to burn in
those plants instead of the coal we're using. In this way the added
crude oil is carbon neutral, and the US actually reduces its overall
carbon footprint.

Converted to annual figures these become 876.6 million tons of coal
per year and 229.1 million tons of hydrogen each year to produce 6.1
billion barrels of liquid fuels.

THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CONTROL

The reason Saudi Arabia controls the energy prices in the world is
because Saudi Arabia can at will decide to export more than they need,
and by determining the cost of this excess, they can exercise a
powerful influence on market price for oil.

By creating an infrastructure that uses sunlight and water and coal
all here in the US to make a high-quality crude oil, without producing
any emissions - at a cost of about $8 to $11 per barrel - the US can
wrest control from OPEC in setting oil prices - and the US can
stabilize its currency by having the ability to sell something into
the global marketplace to balance its imbalance of trade. These two
effects multiply together to stabilize the US economy, and permit the
US to grow without worrying overmuch about the Middle East.

Since low cost hydrogen made from sunlight and water are at the heart
of this propose system - it forms the basis of a future hydrogen
economy that once developed, will displace and dominate other forms of
energy production going forward.

DOES THE US HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THIS

Yes. The US consumes about 1.1 billion tons of coal each year. Most
of this is used to produce electricity, and generates about 3.5
billion tons of carbon dioxide each year. Replacing this coal with
177 million tons of hydrogen gas delivered by pipeline to the coal
fired generators, eliminates this carbon emission, and makes the coal
available for conversion to gasoline using the Bergius process.
Adding another 110 million tons of hydrogen gas to the unburned coal
produces 7.7 billion barrels of liquid fuels.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

My system

http://www.usoal.com

Produces 6,460 tons of hydrogen gas per square kilometer per year.
The CAPEX of each square kilometer of system costs in quantity $12.6
million per sq km. To use all its current coal production for liquid
fuel production and displace all current coal use with hydrogen burned
instead of coal - requires the production of 287 million tons of
hydrogen gas per year. So, 44,427 sq km of solar collectors are
needed. This will have an installe cost of $559.8 billion - less than
half than the cost of the Iraqi invasion.

The US bureau of land management has over 50,000 sq km of desert
surface mines that is under its control. These abandoned mines may be
returned to productive use by allowing me to install solar panels on
them.

With $22 billion invested in 14 panel production plants - 15 sq km of
solar panels can be produced each day. The plants will require 3
years to construct and after that it will take 8 years to populate the
sites. So, 11 years from today we can have sufficient solar hydrogen
to achieve our goal of dominating the demand for oil. Over 10,000
people will be employed at these factories - and another 35,000 will
be employed building them.

The Bergius reactor is expected to have a CAPEX of $350 per ton of
coal per year processed. So, the reactors will cost a total of $385
billion. 70 of these emissionless coal conversion plants located
strategically around the United States. Each will cost $5.5 billion
and produce 300,000 barrels of petroleum products per day. These will
be constructed over an 11.1 year period to be ready when the hydrogen
is at full production. This will employ 174,000 over this period.

THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM

The value of 21 million barrels of liquid fuel produced each day at a
margin of $90 per barrel is $1.89 billion per day. That's $690.32
billion per year!!! At 10x earnings, this is a value of $6.9
TRILLION!!! The capital expense is $559.8 billion for the solar/
hydrogen part, and $350 billion for the coal/oil part. This is a
total CAPEX of $909.8 billion. A 7.58 to 1 value to investment. Over
the 11.1 year development period, this provides 20% annualized rate of
return if all the money is invested on day one. This of course isn't
required. An investment program based on efficiently spaced capital
flows would easily provide a 40% annualized rate of return for all
investors over this period..40% annualized rates of return are
sufficient to attract venture capital.

WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO

Highlight this project and assist with regulatory approvals that ease
its introduction and installation across the country.

Get the ball rolling by purchasing crude oil from the system at market
rates in quantities sufficient to fill the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve. An off-take contract for 500 million barrels at $98 per
barrel - paid when the petroleum is delivered in 11.1 years - is a
contract worth $49 billion. This off-take contract,along with
favorable regulatory treatment is sufficient to allow me to raise
sufficient money to build the 14 solar panel plants,organize the
45,000 sq km of desert lands, arrange the rights of way for all the
pipelines,and site all 70 of the coal conversion plants, along with
converting coal fired electrical generators to hydrogen,

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS

The US having a clear vision of its energy future, and the means to
increase production of oil from domestic reserves, will immediately
stabilize its markets and create a powerful means to negotiate price
reductions in the crude oil markets.

FUTURE BENEFITS

All the energy used in the US may be displaced with hydrogen
directly. Solar hydrogen is an important part of this program here.
Once proven on this scale, it will be a simple matter to expand
hydrogen production to displace declining outputs of crude oil going
forward.

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You obviously believe the two things are mutually exclusive, posting
on usenet and say writing White Papers for the Pentagon. haha.. They
are not.

I have been quite active for many years in Washington, and I have had
some impact on policy.

I have been active on Capitol Hill and visited OSTP at the White House
for four years now. I have had meetings and worked closely with DOE
NREL in Golden Colorado. I helped initiate DOE interest in CPV
technology there back in 1998. I have met with governors in many
states that have resources, coal, sunlight, and urge them to take
action. I think I have done as well as can be expected.

Yet there is only so much government can do in a free country. There
are many things and many interests to consider, and there are those
who worry that a program such as I outline here would create economic
hardship in an industry vitally important to the security of our
nation.
BradGuth
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:31 am
Guest
But you could have accomplished all of this as of 10 years ago,
because based upon your own numbers it would have made good economic
sense way back then.

There is no apparent way our DOE or any other government agency is
going to support the likes of honest folks, because that’s not what
our government ever does. Our government seems to like ulterior
motives, hidden agendas and of those cloak and dagger sorts of
individuals in charge of such.

It’s always opposed by the actions of those in Usenet and the likes of
NASA’s brown-nosed minions within Uplink.Space.com as not caring about
others of any faith other than their pretend atheism that acts and/or
reacts exactly as though Old Testament Jewish, of those individuals
hiding behind phony names and extensively not caring as to however
spendy energy gets, of how polluted and AGW our environment gets or of
how much our government lies to us, that are also the ones telling us
that whatever the past doesn’t count and that if need be WWIII is
necessary, and that Muslim deaths simply don’t ever count.

Our new and improved NASA, that for the past 8 years and counting as
having ignored all things Venus, is about to fold upon itself once
again (as you should know the 8th fold is next to impossible), and
that’s before their own dumbfounded eyes of denial and evidence
exclusion, in much the same as our old NASA/Apollo fiasco that for
some odd reasons still can’t be imaged from the best efforts of JAXA’s
Selene (KAGUYA) as offering its 3D imaging that’s of a more than
sufficient 10 meters/pixel resolution and terrific DR that’s at least
4X better than film, as though our supposed “right stuff†that’s so
bright and shiny upon that physically dark surface is having to
continually hide under most any available moon rock because, there’s
still nothing of any such bright and shiny Apollo technology residing
upon that physically dark as coal moon of ours (unless an artificial
crater counts).

Basically our government lies to us as regular as clockwork, and as
such they only want to do business with other born-again liars
because, the last thing they need within their ranks is someone
telling us village idiots the whole truth and nothing but the truth,
such as about those clean and renewable energy resources that can
produce the likes of Mook hydrogen and Guth peroxide.
. - Brad Guth


Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 26, 7:47�pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just make those spare/surplus tonnes of H2 or LH2 and call it good.
You'll become richer and more powerful than Warren Buffett in no time
at all. �

That is possible. One analyst many years ago said I'd be richer than
Bill Gates. In fact, he said Bill Gates would be toe jam beneath my
feet. He is worth only a scant $100 billion - this is a business that
dominates a $4 trillion a year market with 80% margins and grows at
double digit rates if unlimited in supply, creating the money to pay
for it, and could be $40 trillion in less than 25 years. Communism
and statist fantasies are dead. The Chinese are and Indians are
adopting more market driven systems, the world is poised for an
industrial development unprecedented in scope and size. And this
technology is the right thing at the right time.

Now, about the details. You are correct. Get the details right, and
I can be the wealthiest man in history with this technology. Get the
details wrong and I will be a footnote in history and someone else
gets the glorly.

For every Bill Gates there is a Tim Patterson, for every John
Rockerfellar a Maurice Clarke.

Start small, with perhaps as little as selling off one tonne
of your PV cheap and squeaky clean hydrogen per month. �

Starting small and under-capitalized loses me quality vendors and
quality employees, and does more to signal my competitors than
establish me as a going business. Starting small means that my limited
capital is being used to resolve difficult problems while gaining
nothing of a competitive nature. In short, it is the very worst thing
one can do.

That is why I have several projects underway overseas involving
200,000 barrels per day of oil production. I had started in the US,
with a number of interesting sites here. But Sarbanes Oxley and other
concerns within the US have put those plans on hold until we're
actually shipping product overseas.

That's just the way things are for this business at this time in this
place. Meanwhile, other folks in the energy business are positioning
themselves to take advantage of this haitus - you really should expect
no less of them - and I am doing the best I can to follow a plan that
involves the greatest reward for the least risk..

The key to making a good deal, is walking away from a bad one.
Another key is to know a good deal from a bad deal.

If need be,
start off by selling it on Craigslist.
- Brad Guth

Why? Why not make a commodity that just by having it people will
seek you out and demand to buy it at market rates? That's why I
started with oil. Once I start shipping 400,000 barrels of oil each
day, made with 58,000 tons of coal each day, and 6,300 tons of
hydrogen each day - I will then carry out a half dozen projects to
expand this business along the lines most favorable to me - without
having to convince anyone of anything.

400,000 barrels per day with a $90 margin per barrel, produces a gross
margin of $13 billion per year. At 10x earnings this has market cap
of $130 billion. The cost of these two projects are $14 billion. I
own 35% of this output as project sponsor and technology provider. I
sold the PROJECT not the technology, not the business. Just the
project.

These projects will realize a $40.6 billion profit for me when
completed. I am leveraging that value now to do 6 additional projects
around the world. These involve trading hydrogen for coal at a
variety of power plants around the world, taking that coal, and
converting it to petrol.

These projects are being financed by leveraging the value I hold in
the two original projects - and will be completed within a year of the
first two.

The next step is to come back to the USA. There I have some sunny
lands that are stranded, along with some coal mine capacity that is
tranded - targeted for acquisition. I also have rights of way
targeted to tie these lands into the national power grid, along with
old gas wells that are used for 100 day storage of hydrogen gas from
the sites just mentioned.

With that infrastructure in place, I will supply 156 coal fired power
plants that are halted due to environmental concerns in the US with
hydrogen - totalling nearly 80 GW of electrical capacity. I will take
the coal in trade, and convert the coal into petrol . This will get
me 791,000 tons of coal per day on long-term contracts, while allowing
these power plants to operate with assurances of no coal price
increases for up to 20 years. The coal plus 81,000 tons of hydrogen
per day (in addition to the 129,000 tons of hydrogen used by the
utilities) - makes 5.5 million barrels of petrol per day. Nearly half
the US imports. The $280 billion for this program will be raised step
fashion, leveraging the off-take contracts from each of the power
plants on my list to populate the land and rights of way, using the
productive capacity developed to supply the 8 projects overseas with
panels, reactors and so forth..

I am also interested in doing a leveraged buyout of Sunoco and
Westmoreland Coal - to create an integrated alternative oil company.
With the productive capacity just described along with 2 billion tons
of proved reserves of coal, the market would value the integrated oil
company as if it has 14 billion barrels of DOMESTIC RESERVES - of 'sun-
fuel' - where half the energy in each gallon comes from the sun!! The
combined value of the companies following a leveraged buyout ould rise
from $12 billion today to over $350 bilion after the merger with my
ongoing operations.

All the debts built up during the build out of the 11,000 sq kmof
desert lands with solar panels, and thousands of kilometers of
hydrogen pipelines, along with the 18 coal conversion plants - will be
paid down, or paid off through this operation.

At this point I will be free to expand the number of stations, by
buying up other oil re-marketers and incorporating them in the
integrated alternative oil network - as well as committing to sell 20%
of our total energy product in the form of hydrogen at retail. 1 in 5
pumps nationwide will be hydrogen pumps,

When this is completed I will sell hydrogen at a 20% discount over
market prices for the equivalent heat value of petroleum products. A
kg of hydrogen has the same heat value as a gallon of gasoline. So,
if gasoline sells for $3.50 per gallon, I will well a kg of hydrogen
for $2.80. I will also sell petroleum products at 5% below market
rates nationwide - so if the market rate is $3.50 - I will sell my gas
for $3.32.

Since my retail price for hydrogen is $0.80 per kg - and my production
cost of gasoline is $0.30 per gallon - its easy to see without huge
transport and exploration costs - I can put downward pressure on oil
prices.

In the end, as the volume of hydrogen fuel increases relative to oil,
I will sell gasoline as a loss leader to keep the downward pressure on
liquid fuels -

On Jan 25, 10:16 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:



The United States has 275 billion tons of easily recoverable coal.

http://www.purdue.edu/dp/energy/pdf/Basic9-Reserves-Apr07.pdf

The United States has over 1,000,000 sq km of of sunny lands.

http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve.cgi

The United States has the technology to make hydrogen from sunlight
and water at less than $200 per metric ton

United States Patent �7,081,584
Mook �July 25, 2006

---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----
Solar based electrical energy generation with spectral cooling

Abstract
Method and system for converting solar energy into electrical energy
utilizing serially coupled multijunction-type photovoltaic cells in
conjunction with a form of spectral cooling. The latter cooling is
carried out by removing ineffective solar energy components from
impinging concentrated light, inter alia, through the utilization of
dichroics or the conversion of ineffective solar energy components to
effective energy components by means of luminescence, phosphorescence,
or fluorescence. Ineffective solar energy components are described as
those exhibiting wavelengths outside the bandgap energy defined
wavelength and an associated wavelength defined band of useful photon
energy.

And the United States has the ability to transmit low-cost hydrogen by
pipeline and in liquid form, to any point of use at a cost of $70 per
metric ton of hydrogen.

http://catalog.asme.org/STLLC/PrintBook/2005_Hydrogen_Standardization....

With low-cost hydrogen made from sunlight, coal may be converted to
oil WITHOUT PRODUCING ANY EMISSIONS. � By adding 100 kg of hydrogen to
a ton of coal 7 barrels of gasoline can be made by THE BERGIUS
PROCESS.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pages/sec5_5.pdf

PROPOSED PROGRAM FOR US DOMINANCE OF TODAY;S ENERGY MARKET

Goal: �Produce 20% more than US needs, allowing US to export energy
and determine price.

WHAT THE US NOW USES

Here's the relevant data;

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/pdf/pa....

The US in 2006 had net imports of 12.6 million barrels of crude oil
per day and production of 5.3 million barrels per day and 1.7 million
barrels of process gas liquids from the natural gas industry, with a
total consumption of 19.6 million barrels of crude oil per day.whic
turns into 20.5 million barrels per day of product after processing
gains of 0.9 million barrels per day.

Processing gain comes from the fact that when you mix two things
together, their volumes don't add up to what they are separately. �So,
when you separate out different fractions of a mixed crude oil, you
get a slight gain in total volume. �The total mass of course stays the
same.

WHAT THE US NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OF ITS ENERGY SITUATION

Reversing our imports from 12.6 million bbls/day of crude oil to 4.1
million bbls per day of exports requires an increase of 16.7 million
bbls/day of crude oil production within the United States. �To do this
with the Bergius process requires that 2.4 million tons of coal each
day be converted to gasoline using 240,000 tons of hydrogen each day.
Using coal already being produced for use by coal fired power plants,
we need an additional 387,000 tons of hydrogen per day to burn in
those plants instead of the coal we're using. �In this way the added
crude oil is carbon neutral, and the US actually reduces its overall
carbon footprint.

Converted to annual figures these become 876.6 million tons of coal
per year and 229.1 million tons of hydrogen each year to produce 6.1
billion barrels of liquid fuels.

THE BENEFIT OF GETTING CONTROL

The reason Saudi Arabia controls the energy prices in the world is
because Saudi Arabia can at will decide to export more than they need,
and by determining the cost of this excess, they can exercise a
powerful influence on market price for oil.

By creating an infrastructure that uses sunlight and water and coal
all here in the US to make a high-quality crude oil, without producing
any emissions - at a cost of about $8 to $11 per barrel - the US can
wrest control from OPEC in setting oil prices - and the US can
stabilize its currency by having the ability to sell something into
the global marketplace to balance its imbalance of trade. �These two
effects multiply together to stabilize the US economy, and permit the
US to grow without worrying overmuch about the Middle East.

Since low cost hydrogen made from sunlight and water are at the heart
of this propose system - it forms the basis of a future hydrogen
economy that once developed, will displace and dominate other forms of
energy production going forward.

DOES THE US HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THIS

Yes. �The US consumes about 1.1 billion tons of coal each year.. �Most
of this is used to produce electricity, and generates about 3.5
billion tons of carbon dioxide each year. �Replacing this coal with
177 million tons of hydrogen gas delivered by pipeline to the coal
fired generators, eliminates this carbon emission, and makes the coal
available for conversion to gasoline using the Bergius process.
Adding another 110 million tons of hydrogen gas to the unburned coal
produces 7.7 billion barrels of liquid fuels.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

My system

http://www.usoal.com

Produces 6,460 tons of hydrogen gas per square kilometer per year.
The CAPEX of each square kilometer of system costs in quantity $12.6
million per sq km. �To use all its current coal production for liquid
fuel production and displace all current coal use with hydrogen burned
instead of coal - requires the production of 287 million tons of
hydrogen gas per year. �So, 44,427 sq km of solar collectors are
needed. �This will have an installe cost of $559.8 billion - less than
half than the cost of the Iraqi invasion.

The US bureau of land management has over 50,000 sq km of desert
surface mines that is under its control. �These abandoned mines may be
returned to productive use by allowing me to install solar panels on
them.

With $22 billion invested in 14 panel production plants - 15 sq km of
solar panels can be produced each day. �The plants will require 3
years to construct and after that it will take 8 years to populate the
sites. �So, 11 years from today we can have sufficient solar hydrogen
to achieve our goal of dominating the demand for oil. �Over 10,000
people will be employed at these factories - and another �35,000 will
be employed building them.

The Bergius reactor is expected to have a CAPEX of $350 per ton of
coal per year processed. �So, the reactors will cost a total of �$385
billion. � 70 of these emissionless coal conversion plants located
strategically around the United States. �Each will cost $5.5 billion
and produce 300,000 barrels of petroleum products per day. �These will
be constructed over an 11.1 year period to be ready when the hydrogen
is at full production. �This will employ 174,000 over this period.

THE VALUE OF THE SYSTEM

The value of 21 million barrels of liquid fuel produced each day at a
margin of $90 per barrel is $1.89 billion per day. �That's $690.32
billion per year!!! � At 10x earnings, this is a value of $6.9
TRILLION!!! � The capital expense is $559.8 billion for the solar/
hydrogen part, and $350 billion for the coal/oil part. �This is a
total CAPEX of $909.8 billion. �A 7.58 to 1 value to investment. Over
the 11.1 year development period, this provides 20% annualized rate of
return if all the money is invested on day one. This of course isn't
required. An investment program based on efficiently spaced capital
flows would easily provide a 40% annualized rate of return for all
investors over this period..40% annualized rates of return are
sufficient to attract venture capital.

WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO

Highlight this project and assist with regulatory approvals that ease
its introduction and installation across the country.

Get the ball rolling by purchasing crude oil from the system at market
rates in quantities sufficient to fill the Strategic Petroleum
Reserve. �An off-take contract for 500 million barrels at $98 per
barrel - paid when the petroleum is delivered in 11.1 years - is a
contract worth $49 billion. �This off-take contract,along with
favorable regulatory treatment is sufficient to allow me to raise
sufficient money to build the 14 solar panel plants,organize the
45,000 sq km of desert lands, arrange the rights of way for all the
pipelines,and site all 70 of the coal conversion plants, along with
converting coal fired electrical generators to hydrogen,

IMMEDIATE BENEFITS

The US having a clear vision of its energy future, and the means to
increase production of oil from domestic reserves, will immediately
stabilize its markets and create a powerful means to negotiate price
reductions in the crude oil markets.

FUTURE BENEFITS

All the energy used in the US may be displaced with hydrogen
directly. �Solar hydrogen is an important part of this program here.
Once proven on this scale, it will be a simple matter to expand
hydrogen production to displace declining outputs of crude oil going
forward.

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