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Guest
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:48 pm
Your views are held by you for one purpose and one purpose only - to
get you off the hook for doing anything realistic to change things
more to your liking.

Do you expect people to just hand you everything you want? When did
your mommy tell you you didn't have to struggle for a damned thing?

Obviously life is a struggle.

You can tell yourself stories to make you feel better for not going
out and doing what you can reasonably do to have things your way.

Or you can tell yourself stories that inspire you to go and do
something to make the world more to your liking despite the
challenges.

The first is the behavior of a loser
The second is the behavior of a winner -

You Brad have always always alwasy - responded to any situation - on
line that I could see - as aloser.

That's why no one takes you seriously, that's why everything you
support is marginalized. That's why you will never accomplish a damn
thing in your life - until you put aside all the stories you keep
telling yourself and us - and actually do the right thing - the
pincipled thing - and go out and make a diffeerence to this world.
Guest
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:55 pm
This is all bullshit Brad - and its all bullshit for one reason - it
doesn't conclude in any way that allows anyone reading it to take
useful positive action.

What would you have someone do after reading this?

Be angry at th egovernment?
Feel totally disempowerd?
Say tsk tsk tsk - the bastards?

Now, anger is useless
Feeling powerless is useless
calling someone names is useless

NOTHING useful comes out of anything you say.

So why say it? What's the godamned point?

Do you want to foment a revolution? Do you want people to take up
arms? then say so

You always always always talk like a damned loser - and that's what
irritates me about you posting any sort of response to what I say -
because I want to do something I want to take positive principled
action. I don't want to bitch and moan -

You must be saying these things to

a) feel better about yourself or
b) marginalize anything I say

Bot can be true, however b) is always true.

So, please, as a favor to me - SHUT THE F**K UP! don't say a damne
thing unless there's a conclusion of a specific action to take.

Look, I write about hydrogen - why must you resopnd to anything I say
about hydrogen - with a discussion of hydrogen peroxide? If you have
something to say about hydrogen peroxide - say it - but don't say it
in my shit -= it has nothing to do with it.

When I say - space - you say venus and lying bastards and other crazy
shit. Why say it in my thread? Say it on your own. Leave me the
f**k alone.

I don't want to shut you up - I just want to get your defeatist
pointless bulls**t from infecting my comments. That's all
..
BradGuth
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:21 am
Guest
If the past or even the present mess of today, that which tomorrow
becomes the past, of which we've created entirely for ourselves has no
accounting, remorse or place within the Mook world of our only
consuming your green hydrogen as combustion derived energy, then you
are none better than Hitler or of those Zionist in charge of Hitler.
If only the future counts for anything because those all-knowing Mook
ends always justifies the means, then God help us all.

There's no question that America can export green energy, that is once
having established a spare/surplus cache of such clean and affordable
energy at home.

Your conversion of our coal reserves to synfuel via Mook H2, and of
running our existing fossil fueled power plants on H2 is of course
perfectly doable if having been given enough land coverage of those
Mook PV units, along with the usual 10X mark up from the actual cost
that's paying for all those good wages and full extended health
benefits within Mook's offshore limited and thus tax avoidance
corporation(s).

The only pesky technological problem being related to the combustion
process that's utilizing our mostly N2 atmosphere, of which is going
to unavoidably create a great deal of NOx, but at least no CO2. So,
what's needed next is a commercial Mook conversion method of our
mostly N2 atmosphere into becoming a mostly O2 atmosphere prior to the
H2 super hot combustion process.

Therefore, subsequently along with that usual 10X profit margin is
where your wholesale or net cost of $8/barrel of synfuel becomes a
retail worth $80 (+ state and federal road tax) per 42 gallon barrel,
of which $88/barrel is still a good enough deal at $2.10/gallon if it
weren't for all that other H2+air worth of NOx produced along with the
continued CO2 related to the burning of all that relatively cheap
synfuel with our mostly N2 and otherwise polluted atmosphere at 10
empg.
.. - Brad Guth


On Jan 28, 4:55 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
This is all bullshit Brad - and its all bullshit for one reason - it
doesn't conclude in any way that allows anyone reading it to take
useful positive action.

What would you have someone do after reading this?

Be angry at th egovernment?
Feel totally disempowerd?
Say tsk tsk tsk - the bastards?

Now, anger is useless
Feeling powerless is useless
calling someone names is useless

NOTHING useful comes out of anything you say.

So why say it? What's the godamned point?

Do you want to foment a revolution? Do you want people to take up
arms? then say so

You always always always talk like a damned loser - and that's what
irritates me about you posting any sort of response to what I say -
because I want to do something I want to take positive principled
action. I don't want to bitch and moan -

You must be saying these things to

a) feel better about yourself or
b) marginalize anything I say

Bot can be true, however b) is always true.

So, please, as a favor to me - SHUT THE F**K UP! don't say a damne
thing unless there's a conclusion of a specific action to take.

Look, I write about hydrogen - why must you resopnd to anything I say
about hydrogen - with a discussion of hydrogen peroxide? If you have
something to say about hydrogen peroxide - say it - but don't say it
in my shit -= it has nothing to do with it.

When I say - space - you say venus and lying bastards and other crazy
shit. Why say it in my thread? Say it on your own. Leave me the
f**k alone.

I don't want to shut you up - I just want to get your defeatist
pointless bulls**t from infecting my comments. That's all
.
Guest
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:49 am
Your commentary has nothing
whatever to do with a workable energy policy that helps all
Americans.


Its really very simple.


We use our water and sunny lands with my patented technology to
create
hydrogen to burn in power plants instead of coal. This eliminates
most of our carbon emissions.


Then we take that coal we don't burn and use more hydrogen to make
synfuels at $8 per barrel. We burn that instead of importing oil.


This will be a huge benefit to our balance of trade.


We'll actually have more oil than we know what to do with in this
case, so we export the extra to China and India - balancing out our
trade deficits, while elminating the major hole in our balance of
trade.


This will make it easier for them to hold debt, and give them
something to invest in in the US that benefits them. This will
further positively effect the value of our dollar on the world's
markets.


It will take about 45,000 sq km of solar collectors and 70 coal to
liquid plants along with a few thousand miles of hydrogen pipelines,
and a few hundred gas well fields converted to hydrogen storage - to
achieve this.


It will cost $909 billion to do this and generate $690 billion per
year in margins - at 10x earnings - this will be worth over $6.9
trillion.


I did all the calculations above.


This has nothing whatever to do with any of the stuff you've talked
about here.


So, I'm taking this opportunity to repeat the relevant facts of this
thread - why don't you take your conversations somewhere else?
BradGuth
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:14 am
Guest
On Jan 29, 8:49 am, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Your commentary has nothing
whatever to do with a workable energy policy that helps all
Americans.

Yes it does matter greatly, because we simply can't proceed along with
our business as usual, because such faith-based corporate and
subsequent government corruption from top to bottom is clearly what
got us into this global energy fiasco mess in the first place.

Multiple efforts of affordably accomplishing green energy types of
fluid and solid products is what needs to be addressed, along with
greatly improving our national power grid that currently sucks as
being unreliable and just plain old energy wheeling inefficient.

Quote:

Its really very simple.

We use our water and sunny lands with my patented technology to
create
hydrogen to burn in power plants instead of coal. This eliminates
most of our carbon emissions.

Then we take that coal we don't burn and use more hydrogen to make
synfuels at $8 per barrel. We burn that instead of importing oil.

This will be a huge benefit to our balance of trade.

We'll actually have more oil than we know what to do with in this
case, so we export the extra to China and India - balancing out our
trade deficits, while elminating the major hole in our balance of
trade.

This will make it easier for them to hold debt, and give them
something to invest in in the US that benefits them. This will
further positively effect the value of our dollar on the world's
markets.

It will take about 45,000 sq km of solar collectors and 70 coal to
liquid plants along with a few thousand miles of hydrogen pipelines,
and a few hundred gas well fields converted to hydrogen storage - to
achieve this.

It will cost $909 billion to do this and generate $690 billion per
year in margins - at 10x earnings - this will be worth over $6.9
trillion.

I did all the calculations above.

This has nothing whatever to do with any of the stuff you've talked
about here.

So, I'm taking this opportunity to repeat the relevant facts of this
thread - why don't you take your conversations somewhere else?

Here's a somewhat improved Guth rant/reply to your rant/reply of our
having to leave lord Mook alone.

If the past or even the present mess of today (that which tomorrow
obviously becomes our past of which we've created entirely for
ourselves) has absolutely no official accounting, remorse or place
within the new and improved Mook world of our only consuming your
green hydrogen as our primary combustion derived energy, then we are
none better off than going along with Hitler or of those Zionist
puppeteers in charge of such warlords. If only the Mook H2 future is
what accounts for anything, because of those all-knowing ends always
justifies the means, then God almighty help us all.

If we can't ever eliminate our internal mainstream of big-energy
corruption that's faith-based orchestrated as being in charge of
their puppet government, then no matters what the source of whatever
green hydrogen or consumption thereof is never going to become fairly
priced nor best utilized for the greater good of humanity, much less
on behalf of salvaging our badly failing environment.

There's no question that America can manage to export green energy,
that is once having established a spare/surplus cache of such clean
and affordable energy at home, be that via whatever PV>H2>Coal/Synfuel
(including the makings of LH2, LOx and h2o2) or just in the form of
creating those nifty energy solids, like aluminum. Of course it would
be nice if first having a sufficient national power grid for reliably
and affordably sharing our own energy, and for otherwise having
multiple forms of clean and renewable energy pitching in.

Your conversion of our coal reserves to synfuel via Mook H2, and of
running our existing fossil fueled power plants on H2 is of course
perfectly doable if having been given enough land coverage of those
Mook PV units, along with the usual 10X mark up from the actual cost
that's paying for all those good wages and full extended health
benefits within Mook's offshore limited and thus tax avoidance
corporation(s).

The only pesky technological problem as being related to the
combustion process that's utilizing our mostly N2 atmosphere, of which
is going to unavoidably create a great deal of NOx, but at least no
CO2. So, perhaps what's needed next is a commercial Mook approved
conversion or process method of our mostly N2 atmosphere becoming a
mostly O2 atmosphere prior to the H2 super heated combustion process.

Therefore, subsequently along with that usual 10X profit margin is
where your wholesale or net cost at $8/barrel of synfuel becomes a
retail worth of $80 (+ state and federal road tax) per 42 gallon
barrel, of which $88/barrel is still a good enough end-use consumer
deal at $2.10/gallon if it weren't for all that other H2+air worth of
NOx produced along with the continued CO2 as related to the burning of
all that relatively cheap synfuel along with our mostly N2 and
otherwise polluted atmosphere at 10 empg.
.. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:34 am
Guest
On Jan 28, 4:48 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Your views are held by you for one purpose and one purpose only - to
get you off the hook for doing anything realistic to change things
more to your liking.

Do you expect people to just hand you everything you want? When did
your mommy tell you you didn't have to struggle for a damned thing?

Obviously life is a struggle.

You can tell yourself stories to make you feel better for not going
out and doing what you can reasonably do to have things your way.

Or you can tell yourself stories that inspire you to go and do
something to make the world more to your liking despite the
challenges.

The first is the behavior of a loser
The second is the behavior of a winner -

You Brad have always always alwasy - responded to any situation - on
line that I could see - as aloser.

That's why no one takes you seriously, that's why everything you
support is marginalized. That's why you will never accomplish a damn
thing in your life - until you put aside all the stories you keep
telling yourself and us - and actually do the right thing - the
pincipled thing - and go out and make a diffeerence to this world.

Speaking about Usenet posting losers, whereas lord all-knowing Mook
has become the very one and only definition of loser because, after
all these years nothing is taking place as based upon on those old and
well established laws of physics and of even older yet science on
behalf of our affordably making loads of spare/surplus energy that's
relatively clean and renewable.

Like yourself, I too have many ideas and otherwise having uncovered
viable science that's well worth our doing things about. However,
unlike your mostly terrestrial matters of easily creating energy for
the makings of Mook's green hydrogen and on behalf of folks utilizing
such H2 as a rather nifty reactive element and/or directly as fuel,
whereas accomplishing my LSE-CM/ISS, of relocating our moon to Earth's
L1, of our utilizing Venus L2 and of accomplishing the planet Venus
itself along with those other intelligent forms of life existing/
coexisting in plain sight, as such takes considerably more faith as
well as applied intelligence and technology than everything Mook has
to offer.

This is not my saying that Mook energy via whatever PV process should
be ignored or otherwise banished. After all, the Earth/Moon L1 is
actually a darn good off-world location to apply much of what you've
proposed on behalf of beaming solar energy down to Earth, especially
since the tether dipole element gets that impressive array of Mook
laser cannons so close to Earth.
.. - Brad Guth
Jakthehammer
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:50 pm
Guest
"BradGuth" <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9f98e1fd-9d74-4527-93a9-cd2fff20a1e1@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
If the past or even the present mess of today, that which tomorrow
becomes the past, of which we've created entirely for ourselves has no
accounting, remorse or place within the Mook world of our only
consuming your green hydrogen as combustion derived energy, then you
are none better than Hitler or of those Zionist in charge of Hitler.
If only the future counts for anything because those all-knowing Mook
ends always justifies the means, then God help us all.

There's no question that America can export green energy, that is once
having established a spare/surplus cache of such clean and affordable
energy at home.

Your conversion of our coal reserves to synfuel via Mook H2, and of
running our existing fossil fueled power plants on H2 is of course
perfectly doable if having been given enough land coverage of those
Mook PV units, along with the usual 10X mark up from the actual cost
that's paying for all those good wages and full extended health
benefits within Mook's offshore limited and thus tax avoidance
corporation(s).

The only pesky technological problem being related to the combustion
process that's utilizing our mostly N2 atmosphere, of which is going
to unavoidably create a great deal of NOx, but at least no CO2. So,
what's needed next is a commercial Mook conversion method of our
mostly N2 atmosphere into becoming a mostly O2 atmosphere prior to the
H2 super hot combustion process.

Therefore, subsequently along with that usual 10X profit margin is
where your wholesale or net cost of $8/barrel of synfuel becomes a
retail worth $80 (+ state and federal road tax) per 42 gallon barrel,
of which $88/barrel is still a good enough deal at $2.10/gallon if it
weren't for all that other H2+air worth of NOx produced along with the
continued CO2 related to the burning of all that relatively cheap
synfuel with our mostly N2 and otherwise polluted atmosphere at 10
empg.
. - Brad Guth


On Jan 28, 4:55 pm, Willie.Moo...@gmail.com wrote:
This is all bullshit Brad - and its all bullshit for one reason - it
doesn't conclude in any way that allows anyone reading it to take
useful positive action.

What would you have someone do after reading this?

Be angry at th egovernment?
Feel totally disempowerd?
Say tsk tsk tsk - the bastards?

Now, anger is useless
Feeling powerless is useless
calling someone names is useless

NOTHING useful comes out of anything you say.

So why say it? What's the godamned point?

Do you want to foment a revolution? Do you want people to take up
arms? then say so

You always always always talk like a damned loser - and that's what
irritates me about you posting any sort of response to what I say -
because I want to do something I want to take positive principled
action. I don't want to bitch and moan -

You must be saying these things to

a) feel better about yourself or
b) marginalize anything I say

Bot can be true, however b) is always true.

So, please, as a favor to me - SHUT THE F**K UP! don't say a damne
thing unless there's a conclusion of a specific action to take.


Oh WOW Willlie SMookie... Be nice my man. That statement really should
apply to you........Heehee......Donchaknow............
 
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