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Curly Surmudgeon

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:19 pm

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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:20:38 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:

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In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <Curly.is.not@home.com> wrote:

There is no way to stop a severe recession at this point.

You need to work for some econometrics firm.

<scratches head> Why do I _need_ to work in the establishment?

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You could make a seven figure salary with your acumen.

Been there, done that back when 7 figures bought more than a middle class
house.

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Curly Surmudgeon

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:44 pm

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covenant.

Good laws--bad precepts. Ezekiel.

687. Types.--When the word of God, which is really true, is false literally,
it is true spiritually. Sede a dextris meis:136 this is false literally,
therefore it is true spiritually.

In these expressions, God is spoken of after the manner of men; and this
means nothing else but that the intention which men have in giving a seat at
their right hand, God will have also. It is then an indication of the
intention of God, not of His manner of carrying it out.

Thus when it is said, "God has received the odour of your incense, and will
in recompense give you a rich land," that is equivalent to saying that the
same intention which a man would have, who, pleased with your perfumes,
should in recompense give you a rich land, God will have towards you,
because you have had the same intention as a man has towards him to whom he
presents perfumes. So iratus est, a "jealous God," etc. For, the things of
God being inexpressible, they cannot be spoken of otherwise, and the Church
makes use of them even to-day: Quia confortavit seras,137 etc.

It is

Don Lancaster

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:05 pm

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There is no way to stop a severe recession at this point.

Try St. John's Wort.

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Don Lancaster

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:24 pm

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like a sharp sword, and said
unto me, Thou art my servant in whom I will be glorified. Then I said, Lord,
have I laboured in vain? have I spent my strength for nought? yet surely my
judgment is with Thee, O Lord, and my work with Thee. And now, saith the
Lord, that formed me from the womb to be His servant, to bring Jacob and
Israel again to Him, Thou shalt be glorious in my sight, and I will be thy
strength. It is a light thing that thou shouldst convert the tribes of
Jacob; I have raised thee up for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest
be my salvation unto the ends of the earth. Thus saith the Lord to him whom
man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers,
Princes and kings shall worship thee, because the Lord is faithful that hath
chosen thee.

"Again saith the Lord unto me, I have heard thee in the days of salvation
and of mercy, and I will preserve thee for a covenant of the people, to
cause to inherit the desolate nations, that thou mayest say to the
prisoners: Go forth; to them that are in darkness show yourselves, and
possess these abundant and fertile lands. They shall not hunger nor thirst,
neither shall the heat nor sun smite them; for he that hath mercy upon them
shall lead them, even by the springs of waters shall he guide them, and make
the mountains a way before them. Behold, the peoples shall come from all
parts, from the east and from the west, from the north and from the south

Curly Surmudgeon

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:25 pm

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verse, prose, woman, birds, rivers, trees, rooms, dress, etc.
Whatever is not made according to this standard displeases those who have
good taste.

And as there is a perfect relation between a song and a house which are made
after a good model, because they are like this good model, though each after
its kind; even so there is a perfect relation between things made after a
bad model. Not that the bad model is unique, for there are many; but each
bad sonnet, for example, on whatever false model it is formed, is just like
a woman dressed after that model.

Nothing makes us understand better the ridiculousness of a false sonnet than
to consider nature and the standard and, then, to imagine a woman or a house
made according to that standard.

33. Poetical beauty.--As we speak of poetical beauty, so ought we to speak
of mathematical beauty and medical beauty. But we do not do so; and the
reason is that we know well what is the object of mathematics, and that it
consists in proofs, and what is the object of medicine, and that it consists
in healing. But we do not know in what grace consists, which is the object
of poetry. We do not know the natural model which we ought to imitate; and
through lack of this knowledge, we have coined fantastic terms, "The golden
age," "The wonder of our times," "Fatal," etc., and call this jargon
poetical beauty.

But whoever imagines a woman after this model, which consists in saying
little things in big words, will see a pretty girl adorned with mirrors and
chains, at whom he will smile; because we know better wherein consists the
charm of woman than the charm of verse. But those who are ignorant would
admire her in this dress, and there are many villages in which she would be
taken for t

Myal

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:47 pm

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Don Lancaster wrote:

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There is no way to stop a severe recession at this point.

Try St. John's Wort.

or any of the OTC anti depressants , if you want , do mail order from
mexico ...

Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:39 pm

On Jan 22, 11:50 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

The usual nonsense from this poster.

To eliminate the oncoming depression here in the US, you simply take
the following 10 steps:

1. Secure the borders and deport all of the illegals now within the
US, without exception.
2. Impose a 200% tarif on the retail price of all imported automobiles
and electronics.
3. Prohibit the importation of steel, and the exportation of lumber.
4. Prohibit the export of foreign sale of "intellectual property".
5. Place targeted restrictions on the exportation of grain and other
food products.
6. Criminally try all documented proponents of "Globalization" as
traitors to the US.
7. Cancel NAFTA and all other similar free trade agreements.
8. Nationalize or put up for auction all currently foreign owned US
real estate.
9. Observe the Monroe Doctrine. Africa and the middle east should not
concern us, and nuke them into the 18th century if it needs to be
done.
10. Cut off ALL foreign aid. Let those that hate the US, simply let
them stew in their own juice. Like a mad dog, the bite the hand that
feeds them.

Mean spirited I know, but "if the US is not for itself, then who
should it be for?"

Harry C.

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:45 pm

On Jan 28, 7:39 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:

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Oh, one afterthought.

Limit the financial rewards of corporate executives in US firms to a
combined annual total of $2-mil, in combined salary plus benefits and
equity options.

Harry C.

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:31 pm

On Jan 28, 8:45 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:

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On Jan 28, 7:39 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Jan 22, 11:50 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:

The usual nonsense from this poster.

To eliminate the oncoming depression here in the US, you simply take
the following 10 steps:

1. Secure the borders and deport all of the illegals now within the
US, without exception.
2. Impose a 200% tarif on the retail price of all imported automobiles
and electronics.
3. Prohibit the importation of steel, and the exportation of lumber.
4. Prohibit the export of foreign sale of "intellectual property".
5. Place targeted restrictions on the exportation of grain and other
food products.
6. Criminally try all documented proponents of "Globalization" as
traitors to the US.
7. Cancel NAFTA and all other similar free trade agreements.
8. Nationalize or put up for auction all currently foreign owned US
real estate.
9. Observe the Monroe Doctrine. Africa and the middle east should not
concern us, and nuke them into the 18th century if it needs to be
done.
10. Cut off ALL foreign aid. Let those that hate the US, simply let
them stew in their own juice. Like a mad dog, the bite the hand that
feeds them.

Mean spirited I know, but "if the US is not for itself, then who
should it be for?"

Harry C.

Oh, one afterthought.

Limit the financial rewards of corporate executives in US firms to a
combined annual total of $2-mil, in combined salary plus benefits and
equity options.

Harry C.

Would you agree to limit the financial reward of corporate executive
to that of a military O-10?

strabo

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:59 am

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hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:

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Don't forget to repeal amendments 13 through 18 plus the Income Tax
and Federal Reserve Acts.

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Bret Ludwig

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:26 pm

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On Jan 28, 6:39 pm, hhc...@yahoo.com wrote:

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I agree with all of this except #9. The Monroe Doctrine has been
unenforceable since August 5, 1962, to my great dismay. Also, bombing
Africa and the Middle East to the 18th century will have to wait until
they get there first.

You may have a _long_ wait on your hands.

Bret Ludwig

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:30 pm

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Harry C.

Would you agree to limit the financial reward of corporate executive
to that of a military O-10?

No, but I would require the company to pay every worker fired or laid
off in a calendar year a proportionate share of an amount equal to the
CEO's total compensation minus the standard salary his equivalent
outside the US makes.

Beam Me Up Scotty

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:22 am

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hhc314@yahoo.com wrote:

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Money on a fence is too costly. People will need jobs so hire some INS
Agents and buy some American made Drone aircraft to patrol for
*criminals* at the borders.

Way to expensive to deport them all.... their money was earned illegally
since they can not be employed legally, so confiscate their ill gotten
gains. Just treat them as Americans are treated, like a bookie, or drug
dealer or mobster or a Madam running a whore house in Washington DC. You
confiscate their houses, cars and cash.

Then they will all go home the same way they got here. After the exodus
then clean up any stragglers. With some of your new hire INS/Border
People works.

This will be much more cost effective.

THEN

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2. Impose a 200% tarif on the retail price of all imported automobiles
and electronics.

Can't do it. so make producing here cheaper by changing to a reasonable
tax system, the Fair tax will cut personal paper work and should put the
parasitic IRS and Tax defense lawyers off the backs of Americans. Then
cut regulations on all non critical sectors. Reduce as many layers of
bureaucratic oversight as possible, they are parasites also.

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3. Prohibit the importation of steel, and the exportation of lumber.

OUR Exports make you money... What you suggest is a kin to trying to
stop your family budget crisis by quitting any over time work.

The more exports you have the more Americans are earning money.

High priced steel either local or foreign would drive costs up and slow
the economy not make it better. Buy it where ever it's cheap.

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4. Prohibit the export or foreign sale of "intellectual property".

Sell the crap out of it.... It's money for nothing. Created from thin
air, the best profit there is. But stop giving away technology.

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5. Place targeted restrictions on the exportation of grain and other
food products.
NO NO NO... sell every grain and let Americans struggle and conserve and

stretch their budget, but let the Farmers sell what they grow for as
much as they can, in return they will buy new tractors and eco-cars and
build bigger houses. That's a good thing.

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6. Criminally try all documented proponents of "Globalization" as
traitors to the US.
NO... Decriminalize the war on drugs and get rid of the IRS, less laws

not more....

"what we have here is a failure to communicate".

Up until now we're making huge numbers of Americans, criminals for minor
social infractions, drugs, thefts.... someone who hasn't caused physical
harm to another person should not be turned into a life long criminal
with a life long record. They become more likely to drop off the grid
and join the underground economy and avoid the things that build the
economy.

We are becoming a Nation of Criminals. With such a huge number of people
being pissed through the courts and prisons it has an affect on the
economy.

When did the last depression come around and when did it end? If you map
it against the prohabition laws then you'll notice that back then we
ended up with more bar stools and more criminals during prohabition than
before it and you'll notice that the depression hit in 29` and
prohabition was repealed in 32`. Making more criminals out of hard
working people is going in the wrong direction. Here we go again, if you
don't learn from history your doomed to repeat it.

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7. Cancel NAFTA and all other similar free trade agreements.
Can't we're to far into it.... but stop the advance of it right now

where it is.

Cancel the 40 year war on poverty, scale back every program by %10 a
year, every year for the next 4 years.

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8. Nationalize or put up for auction all currently foreign owned US
real estate.

Never, surest way to cause a depression. We need Less government not
more. Invite more sales.

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9. Observe the Monroe Doctrine. Africa and the middle east should not
concern us, and nuke them into the 18th century if it needs to be
done.
Slash all foreign aid by 10% a year for the next four years.

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10. Cut off ALL foreign aid. Let those that hate the US, simply let
them stew in their own juice. Like a mad dog, the bite the hand that
feeds them.

If they don't like us then give them nothing. Cut the rest by 20% per
year over 5 years. Tax taken from citizens at gun point and then handed
to someone else as income, is pure theft. If it's not used on
infrastructure accessible or directly for my security then it is
stealing. If you have the right to take money to give away, then go
break down your neighbors door take as much money as you like and then
go give it away. Having the guns of government to back you up doesn't
make it moral.

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Mean spirited I know, but "if the US is not for itself, then who
should it be for?"

Most of your suggestions were down right Marxist. The wrong way to go if
you want to rev up an economy. The problems are the parasites on the
system, and the gutting of American production created by these parasites.

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********* Koom-Bay-Ya *********
After 40 years of *Liberals* mired down in the war on poverty, with no
end in site and no *exit strategy* or plan for *redeployment* ....here
we are.

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