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| Lawrence Gllickman |
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heard
the true spoken of, as appears by the Deluge, circumcision, the cross of
Saint Andrew, etc.
818. Having considered how it comes that there are so many false miracles,
false revelations, sorceries, etc., it has seemed to me that the true cause
is that there are some true; for it would not be possible that there should
be so many false miracles, if there were none true, nor so many false
revelations, if there were none true, nor so many false religions, if there
were not one true. For if there had never been all this, it is almost
impossible that men should have imagined it, and still more impossible that
so many others should have believed it. But as there have been very great
things true, and as they have been believed by great men, this impression
has been the cause that nearly everybody is rendered capable of believing
also the false. And thus, instead of concluding that there are no true
miracles, since there are so many false, it must be said, on the contrary,
that there are true miracles, since there are so many false; and that there
are false ones only because there are true; and that in the same way there
are false religions because there is one true.--Objection to this: savages
have a religion. But this is because they have heard the true spoken of, as
appears by the cross of Saint Andrew, the Deluge, circumcision, etc. This
arises from the fact that the human mind, finding itself inclined to that
side by the truth, becomes thereby susceptible of all the falsehoods of
this...
819. Jeremiah 23:32. The miracles of the false prop |
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| Lavelock |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:46 pm |
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lowliness of heart, that all times appeared
in her. But there are, blessed be God! many living instances, of much
the like nature, and in some things no less extraordinary.
But I now proceed to the other instance, that of the little child before
mentioned. Her name is Phebe Bartlet, [She was living in March, 1789,
and maintained the character of a true convert.] daughter of William
Bartlet. I shall give the account as I took it from the mouth of her
parents, whose veracity none who know them doubt of.
She was born in March, 1731. About the latter end of April, or beginning
of May, 1735, she was greatly affected by the talk of her brother, who
had been hopefully converted a little before, at about eleven years of
age, and then seriously talked to her about the great things of
religion. Her parents did not know of it at that time, and were not
wont, in the counsels they gave to their children, particularly to
direct themselves to her, being so young, and, as they supposed, not
capable of understanding. But after her brother had talked to her, they
observed her very earnestly listen to the advice they gave to the other
children; and she was observed very constantly to retire, several times
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| Lavelock |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:46 pm |
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for God, for Jesus
Christ, for the Church, miracles have never been on the side of the false
Christians, and the other side has never been without a miracle.
"He hath a devil." John 10:21. And others said, "Can a devil open the eyes
of the blind?"
The proofs which Jesus Christ and the apostles draw from Scripture are not
conclusive; for they say only that Moses foretold that a prophet should
come. But they do not thereby prove that this is He; and that is the whole
question. These passages, therefore, serve only to show that they are not
contrary to Scripture and that there appears no inconsistency, but not that
there is agreement. Now this is enough, namely, exclusion of inconsistency,
along with miracles.
There is a mutual duty between God and men. We must pardon Him this saying:
Quid debui?207 "Accuse me, " said God in Isaiah.
"God must fulfil His promises," etc.
Men owe it to God to accept the religion which He sends. God owes it to men
not to lead them into error. Now, they would be led into error, if the
workers of miracles announced a doctrine which should not appear evidently
false to the light of common sense, and if a greater worker of miracles had
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| Walter Jeffries |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:24 pm |
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has of late abundantly shown
that He does not need to wait to have men convinced by long and often
repeated fruitless trials; for in multitudes of instances He has made a
shorter work of it. He has so awakened and convinced persons'
consciences, and made them so sensible of their exceeding great
vileness, and given them such a sense of His wrath against sin, as has
quickly overcome all their vain self-confidence, and borne them down
into the dust before a holy and righteous God.
There have been some who have not had great terrors, but have had a very
quick work. Some of those who have not had so deep a conviction of these
things before their conversion, have much more of it afterwards. God has
appeared far from limiting Himself to any certain method in His
proceedings with sinners under legal convictions. In some instances, it
seems easy for our reasoning powers to discern the methods of divine
wisdom, in His dealings with the soul under awakenings; in others, His
footsteps cannot be traced, and His ways are past finding out. Some who
are less distinctly wrought upon, in what is preparatory to grace,
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| Lavelock |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:24 pm |
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a fly is buzzing in its ears; that is enough to render it
incapable of good judgement. If you wish it to be able to reach the truth,
chase away that animal which holds its reason in check and disturbs that
powerful intellect which rules towns and kingdoms. Here is a comical god! O
ridicolosissimo eroe!
367. The power of flies; they win battles, hinder our soul from acting, eat
our body.
368. When it is said that heat is only the motions of certain molecules, and
light the conatus recedendi which we feel, it astonishes us. What! Is
pleasure only the ballet of our spirits? We have conceived so different an
idea of it! And these sensations seem so removed from those others which we
say are the same as those with which we compare them! The sensation from the
fire, that warmth which affects us in a manner wholly different from touch,
the reception of sound and light, all this appears to us mysterious, and yet
it is material like the blow of a stone. It is true that the smallness of
the spirits which enter into the pores touches other nerves, but there are
always some nerves touched.
369. Memory is necessary for all the operations of reason.
370. Chance gives rise to thoughts, and chance removes them; no art can keep
or acquire them.
A thought has escaped me. I wanted to write it down. I write instead that it
has escaped me.
371. When I was small, I hugged my book; and because it sometimes happened
to me to... in believing I hugged it, I doubted....
372. In writing down my thought, it sometimes escapes me; but this makes me
remember my weakness, that I constantly forget. This is as instructive to me
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| Lawrence Gllickman |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:24 pm |
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the earth trembles, and before whom the rocks are thrown down?
They deserve to be cast into hell; so that divine justice never stands
in the way, it makes no objection against God's using his power at any
moment to destroy them. Yea, on the contrary, justice calls aloud for an
infinite punishment of their sins. Divine justice says of the tree that
brings forth such grapes of Sodom, "Cut it down, why cumbereth it the
ground?" Luke 13:7. The sword of divine justice is every moment
brandished over their heads, and it is nothing but the hand of arbitrary
mercy, and God's mere will, that holds it back.
They are already under a sentence of condemnation to hell. They do not
only justly deserve to be cast down thither, but the sentence of the law
of God, that eternal and immutable rule of righteousness that God has
fixed between him and mankind, is gone out against them, and stands
against them; so that they are bound over already to hell. John 3:18.
"He that believeth not is condemned already." So that every unconverted
man properly belongs to hell; that is his place; from thence he is, John
8:23. "Ye are from beneath:" And thither he is bound; it is the place
that justice, and God's word, and the sentence of his unchangeable law
assign to him.
They are now the objects of that very same anger and wrath of God, that
is expressed in the torments of hell. And the reason why they do not go
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| Lavelock |
| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:24 pm |
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themselves that they
shall escape. If we knew that there was one person, and but one, in the
whole congregation, that was to be the subject of this misery, what an
awful thing would it be to think of! If we knew who it was, what an
awful sight would it be to see such a person! How might all the rest of
the congregation lift up a lamentable and bitter cry over him! But,
alas! instead of one, how many is it likely will remember this discourse
in hell? And it would be a wonder, if some that are now present should
not be in hell in a very short time, even before this year is out. And
it would be no wonder if some persons, that now sit here, in some seats
of this meeting-house, in health, quiet and secure, should be there
before tomorrow morning. Those of you that finally continue in a natural
condition, that shall keep out of hell longest will be there in a little
time! your damnation does not slumber; it will come swiftly, and, in all
probability, very suddenly upon many of you. You have reason to wonder
that you are not already in hell. It is doubtless the case of some whom
you have seen and known, that never deserved hell more than you, and
that heretofore appeared as likely to have been now alive as you. Their
case is past all hope; they are crying in extreme misery and perfect
despair; but here you are in the land of the living and in the house of
God, and have an opportunity to obtain salvation. What would not t |
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| Bob Brock |
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:32 am |
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:02:14 -0600, "Lavelock" <lavelock@hotmail.com>
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"Bob Brock" <bbrock@i-americia.net> wrote in message
news:7tfhp3h9t6nhj7dhshhi1u90m0p7ildm0r@4ax.com...
Yeah, I know the feeling. My wife's condition has an 80 percent 10
year mortality rate. But hey, someone has to be in that 20 percent
right?
What condition? If you don't mind my asking. I might be able to suggest a
good book. What do you have to loose? That is the secret! What do you have
to loose? Read the stupid book that somebody wrote saying this is how I
cured myself of this incurable thing. If it is not too much money or effort
you try it and the next one and the next one and the next one till you find
the answer. I stopped beliving in the impossible long ago.
My wife had a malignant tumor mostly removed from her brain last year.
Right now, we are watching the rest of it to see if it gets any bigger
and if it does, radiation therapy is the next step.
It hasn't so far, but we check it every three months. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:55 am |
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In misc.survivalism Bob Brock <bbrock@i-americia.net> wrote:
Quote: My wife had a malignant tumor mostly removed from her brain last year.
Right now, we are watching the rest of it to see if it gets any bigger
and if it does, radiation therapy is the next step.
Sorry to hear about that, Bob. My best wishes to her for a speedy
recovery.
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel |
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| Curly Surmudgeon |
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:38 am |
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:42:13 -0500, Bob Brock wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:02:14 -0600, "Lavelock" <lavelock@hotmail.com
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"Bob Brock" <bbrock@i-americia.net> wrote in message
news:7tfhp3h9t6nhj7dhshhi1u90m0p7ildm0r@4ax.com...
Yeah, I know the feeling. My wife's condition has an 80 percent 10
year mortality rate. But hey, someone has to be in that 20 percent
right?
What condition? If you don't mind my asking. I might be able to suggest a
good book. What do you have to loose? That is the secret! What do you have
to loose? Read the stupid book that somebody wrote saying this is how I
cured myself of this incurable thing. If it is not too much money or effort
you try it and the next one and the next one and the next one till you find
the answer. I stopped beliving in the impossible long ago.
My wife had a malignant tumor mostly removed from her brain last year.
Right now, we are watching the rest of it to see if it gets any bigger
and if it does, radiation therapy is the next step.
It hasn't so far, but we check it every three months.
Ai! My thoughts go to you and your wife, Bob.
May I inquire what, in general terms, the cost of such surgery was? We
are without insurance by design electing to take our chances and pay as we
go. I had oral surgery in Argentina for $500 pesos, $165 USD, which would
have cost $2,500 to $3,000 in California.
A friend came down to Buenos Aires for cosmetic surgery that would have
cost $40,000 in California but only $5,300 USD in Argentina. My blood
pressure meds are about 4x more in the US.
I'll die before paying US doctor costs like that but most people have some
form of subsidized health insurance in the USA so they are captive, which
perpetuates the Corporate monopoly on health in the USA. Instead we
practice holistic and preventive health.
-- Regards, Curly
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| Lavelock |
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:53 pm |
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Quote: A thought has escaped me. I wanted to write it down. I write instead that
it
has escaped me.
Alot of things have escaped you.
You have my sympathy for the evil spirits that torment you. I know of your
on free will you would never be such a babbling idiot doing such foolish
things. Just as I know you probably can't help yourself.
But do try to get a life. Try a good theme park like Six Flags or Disney.
Getting laid would probably do you a world of good.
If you would be so kind stop posting under my name. Have a little
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| Mike |
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:51 pm |
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:16:34 -0600, none@isp.com (Dersu Uzala) wrote:
Quote: In article <73c70$4797f4d6$6214b5a2$31377@ALLTEL.NET>, lavelock@hotmail.com
says...
When you have been around long enough you will see a pattern. Every year is
the year of the killer flu. Rush. Rush. Rush down and pay for a shot in the
arm. Every year there is a shortage of vaccine and the price is up. Every
year the "killer" flu fails to happen. It got old for me a decade or two
ago. But you are younger and not yet bored.
You are an idiot. google "flu 1918" 40-100 millions deaths. moron.
add to that the fact that most cases of the 'flu are nothing of the
sort. You don't ever get flu, recover and be back at work in 5 days.
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| Mike |
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:51 pm |
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:11:58 -0600, "Lavelock" <lavelock@hotmail.com>
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knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:edbb0501-5c54-4ba5-9389-77af8d00efeb@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Well then we can take diabetes.
4000 people a day get it.
250,000 a year die from it.
That is right off tonights evening news.
They do call it an "epidemic."
Exactly. A epidemic that almost exclusivly hits people who eat massive
amounts of refined sugar and are fat. Not to mention the fact they don't
exercise.
Oh God will we never find the cause so we can cure it?
You really have proved that you are complete and utter tit.
Fat unfit people get diabetes but to do ultra fit ones. Look up
Steve Redgrave, five Olympic golds in consecutive Olympics from 1984
to 2000 in one of the most competitive events on the planet, rowing.
He was diagnosed with diabetes just after winning his fourth gold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Redgrave
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:04 am |
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| John R. Carroll |
| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:36 pm |
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knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:
A recent metting of the Orange ounty Forum was broadcast over the last
weekend.
The subject was the reaction employees would have to a pandemic outbreak
with regard to their job/attendance.
Medical professionals were included, but not the sole object under
discussion.
Pretty interesting.
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John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com |
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