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P. Maffia
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:15 pm
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<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8033

Great. That's reassuring. And there's more, too. FDIC Chairman Shiela
Bair warned that "as of Sept. 30, there were 65 institutions with
assets of $18.5 billion on its list of "problem" institutions;"
although she wouldn't give names.

So, what does it all mean?

It means there's going to be an unprecedented wave of bank closures in
the US and that people who want to hold on to their life savings are
going have to be extra vigilant as the situation continues to
deteriorate. And it is deteriorating very quickly.

Your moronic use of the word "unprecedented" means that the wave ,of bank
failures during the Great depression and the "unprecedented" bank failures
of the 80's never happened.

You moron, if Problem institutions amount to 65 amounting to $18.5 billion
is all that is out there, any intelligent person would understand that is a
mere drop in the bucket. Dufass, even after all its write downs, Citi alone
is still worth well north of $1 trillion. Add in the value of all the rest
of the uncounted banks WITH NO PROBLEMS whatsoever, and you are looking at
risk numbers of substantially less than 1% of just the banking industry, not
even considering the rest of the economy.
Paul Thomas
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:36 pm
Guest
<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote
Quote:
So, what does it all mean?




Ahhhh......

Tis the question for the ages.





Maybe some Dali Llama knows.
Guest
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:18 am
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article3656.html

The Great Depression 2008 - It can't happen to us....can it?"
Economics / Economic Depression Feb 09, 2008 - 02:28 AM

By: Andy_Sutton

" In the 1920s, Americans consumers and businesses relied on cheap
credit, the former to purchase consumer goods such as automobiles and
furniture and the later for capital investment to increase production.
This fueled strong short-term growth but created consumer and
commercial debt. People and businesses who were deeply in debt when
price deflation occurred or demand for their product decreased often
risked default. Many drastically cut current spending to keep up time
payments, thus lowering demand for new products. Businesses began to
fail as construction work and factory orders plunged."

Sound familiar anyone? See any price deflation going on? The Wilshire
5000 has only lost about 2.5 TRILLION dollars in value in the last two
months or so. What about the loss in home equity? Another trillion or
two? Who knows, but I think you get the point. We are seeing almost to
the final utterance the same play we saw unfold in 1929. Were those
folks any more prepared for the Great Depression than we are today?
I'd argue that while they were perhaps a bit better equipped to
provide for their own sustenance that American society in the 1920's
was as complacent as we are today. When the realization of history's
coup de grace hits, we will be caught as unaware as our ancestors were
back in 1929.
Paul Thomas, CPA
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:52 pm
Guest
<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote
Quote:
The Great Depression 2008



A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.



A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets go.




So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment line
you are in.








--
Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it.
----------
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Guest
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:47 pm
On Feb 11, 10:52 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
<paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

The Great Depression 2008

A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment line
you are in.

--
Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it.
----------
Paul A. Thomas, CPA


Depends on what side of the collapse you are on.
http://64.233.187.99/search?q=cache:poH5MG1eicgJ:cvbtheanalyst.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/legendary-funds-manager-julian-robertson-predicts-utter-global-collapse-stemming-from-bursting-of-property-bubble/+http://cvbtheanalyst.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/legendary-funds-manager-julian-robertson-predicts-utter-global-collapse-stemming-from-bursting-of-property-bubble/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
Paul Thomas, CPA
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:05 am
Guest
<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote
Quote:
paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

The Great Depression 2008

A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and
profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets
go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment
line
you are in.



Depends on what side of the collapse you are on.



Damn. I love it when you prove I'm right.
Guest
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:11 am
On Feb 12, 5:05 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Quote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote



paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

The Great Depression 2008

A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and
profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets
go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment
line
you are in.

Depends on what side of the collapse you are on.

Damn. I love it when you prove I'm right.


Is that what your disingenuous snipping proves?
http://64.233.187.99/search?q=cache:poH5MG1eicgJ:cvbtheanalyst.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/legendary-funds-manager-julian-robertson-predicts-utter-global-collapse-stemming-from-bursting-of-property-bubble/+http://cvbtheanalyst.wordpress.com/2008/01/11/legendary-funds-manager-julian-robertson-predicts-utter-global-collapse-stemming-from-bursting-of-property-bubble/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
Kirby M. Wilson
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:24 am
Guest
On Feb 12, 2:11 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 12, 5:05 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net
wrote:



knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

The Great Depression 2008

A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and
profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets
go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment
line
you are in.

Depends on what side of the collapse you are on.

Damn. I love it when you prove I'm right.

Is that what your disingenuous snipping proves?http://64.233.187

It may prove that "knews" breaks down into the vortex black hole
theory of
space time continuum (on a relative scale)
Paul Thomas, CPA
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:24 pm
Guest
<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote
Quote:
On Feb 12, 5:05 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote



paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

The Great Depression 2008

A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and
profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer
lets
go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment
line
you are in.

Depends on what side of the collapse you are on.

Damn. I love it when you prove I'm right.


Is that what your




It seems it does matter what side of the unemployment line you're on.


Care to prove me right again.







--
Two Reasons Why It's So Hard To Solve A Redneck Murder:
1. All the DNA is the same.
2. There are no dental records.
--------------------------
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia
pyotr filipivich
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:10 pm
Guest
[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 08
Feb 2008 12:47:18 +0530 in misc.survivalism :
Quote:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:52:06 -0500, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
paulthomascpapc@bellsouth.net> wrote:


knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote
The Great Depression 2008



A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment line
you are in.


Actually..a depression could be classified as one in which the
employer gets let go.

Recession: when your neighbor gets let go.
Depression: when you are let go.
Panic: when your spouse is fired.

But when the employer gets let go, not only is he out of a job,
but he's not hiring. Ever again. And liberals nanny-staters can't
collect payroll taxes on non-existent payrolls, nor can they tax
business inventories which aren't there. We'll leave off the problem
of collecting sales tax on sales not made. I'm sure they'll try and
find a way to do that, though.

pyotr


--
pyotr filipivich
The two oldest cliches in the book are "The Good Old Days were
better." and "After all, these are Modern TImes."
Guest
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:17 am
On Feb 14, 10:32 am, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
Quote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 08
Feb 2008 12:47:18 +0530 in misc.survivalism :
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:52:06 -0500, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote
The Great Depression 2008

A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment line
you are in.

Actually..a depression could be classified as one in which the
employer gets let go.

Recession: when your neighbor gets let go.
Depression: when you are let go.
Panic: when your spouse is fired.

But when the employer gets let go, not only is he out of a job,
but he's not hiring. Ever again. And liberals nanny-staters can't
collect payroll taxes on non-existent payrolls, nor can they tax
business inventories which aren't there. We'll leave off the problem
of collecting sales tax on sales not made. I'm sure they'll try and
find a way to do that, though.

They have. They just print more phony money.



pyotr


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080214/congress_recession_threat.html?.v=28

AP
Bernanke Says Economic Outlook Is Worse
Thursday February 14, 1:10 pm ET
By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Fed Chairman Bernanke Says Nation's Business Prospects Have
Deteriorated

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress
Thursday the economy is deteriorating and signaled a readiness to keep
on lowering a key interest rate to shore things up.

<snip>
Strabo
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:32 pm
Guest
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Quote:
[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
Gunner Asch <gunner@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 08
Feb 2008 12:47:18 +0530 in misc.survivalism :
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:52:06 -0500, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
paulthomascpapc@bellsouth.net> wrote:

knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote
The Great Depression 2008


A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment line
you are in.

Actually..a depression could be classified as one in which the
employer gets let go.

Recession: when your neighbor gets let go.
Depression: when you are let go.
Panic: when your spouse is fired.

But when the employer gets let go, not only is he out of a job,
but he's not hiring. Ever again. And liberals nanny-staters can't
collect payroll taxes on non-existent payrolls, nor can they tax
business inventories which aren't there. We'll leave off the problem
of collecting sales tax on sales not made. I'm sure they'll try and
find a way to do that, though.


They have. They just print more phony money.

Quote:

pyotr

strabo
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:14 pm
Guest
knews4u2chew@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 14, 10:32 am, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
Gunner Asch <gun...@NOSPAM.earthlink.net> reported Elvis on Fri, 08
Feb 2008 12:47:18 +0530 in misc.survivalism :
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:52:06 -0500, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote
The Great Depression 2008
A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.
A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer lets go.
So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment line
you are in.
Actually..a depression could be classified as one in which the
employer gets let go.
Recession: when your neighbor gets let go.
Depression: when you are let go.
Panic: when your spouse is fired.
But when the employer gets let go, not only is he out of a job,
but he's not hiring. Ever again. And liberals nanny-staters can't
collect payroll taxes on non-existent payrolls, nor can they tax
business inventories which aren't there. We'll leave off the problem
of collecting sales tax on sales not made. I'm sure they'll try and
find a way to do that, though.
They have. They just print more phony money.



pyotr


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080214/congress_recession_threat.html?.v=28

AP
Bernanke Says Economic Outlook Is Worse
Thursday February 14, 1:10 pm ET
By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Fed Chairman Bernanke Says Nation's Business Prospects Have
Deteriorated

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress
Thursday the economy is deteriorating and signaled a readiness to keep
on lowering a key interest rate to shore things up.

snip


Of course, lower rates and print. They've got to bail out their buddies,
the bankers, before TSHTF. Afterwards the rates will skyrocket until
they can no longer keep the gold price down. Then they'll introduce a
new phony money.
Guest
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:07 pm
On Feb 12, 11:24 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
<paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Quote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote



On Feb 12, 5:05 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

paulthomascp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
knews4u2c...@yahoo.com> wrote

The Great Depression 2008

A "recession" is when, as a business owner, you see that sales and
profits
are falling, and you have to let some workers go.

A "depression", for the worker, is being one of those the employer
lets
go.

So really, doesn't it all cook down to which side of the unemployment
line
you are in.

Depends on what side of the collapse you are on.

Damn. I love it when you prove I'm right.

Is that what your

It seems it does matter what side of the unemployment line you're on.

Care to prove me right again.

Nope.

This all proves me right.I warned about alll this 4 years ago.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080214202021.5qwu7lx0&show_article=1

"It could take months or even years before Wall Street and others get
a handle on the true cost of the US subprime meltdown and the
attendant global credit crunch," Quinlan said.

"While subprime loans were once thought to be relatively small in
scale and contained to just one segment of the US financial sector,
the opposite has become painfully evident over the past few months."

A report last week by Standard & Poors ratings agency showed global
stock markets were walloped with a collective loss of 5.2 trillion
dollars in the month of January alone.

Quinlan said it is not clear that the massacre in equities is over
yet.
Paul Thomas, CPA
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:05 am
Guest
<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote
Quote:
I warned about alll this 4 years ago.



And in four years from now I predict we'll be in the midst of another
election, that the economy will be doing great, and four years after that,
we'll be in the midst of yet another election and the economy will suck.
 
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