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Justin Young
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 8:05 pm
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on P. 20, problem 6.

The wording of the question is confusing to me:

Let X,Y be nonempty sets, and f:X->Y, if A is a subset of X, B a
subset of Y then prove:

(a) ff^-1(B) subset of B, and ff^-1(B) = B <=> f is onto;

now my question is,
let p : ff^-1(B) subset of B
q : ff^-1(B) = B
r : f is onto

am i trying to show p&q <=> r, or something else?

because since q => p, it seems strange to phrase it this way.
why not just say "prove q <=> r" ?

this strange phrasing makes me wonder if i am reading the question
wrong.
thanks for any assistance you can give.
Eric J. Wingler
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:10 pm
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"Justin Young" <x_static66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bf317dec.0312191705.2275d727@posting.google.com...
Quote:
on P. 20, problem 6.

The wording of the question is confusing to me:

Let X,Y be nonempty sets, and f:X->Y, if A is a subset of X, B a
subset of Y then prove:

(a) ff^-1(B) subset of B, and ff^-1(B) = B <=> f is onto;

now my question is,
let p : ff^-1(B) subset of B
q : ff^-1(B) = B
r : f is onto

am i trying to show p&q <=> r, or something else?

because since q => p, it seems strange to phrase it this way.
why not just say "prove q <=> r" ?

this strange phrasing makes me wonder if i am reading the question
wrong.
thanks for any assistance you can give.

**********************************************************
The question is asking you to prove two things:
1. ff^-1(B) subset of B
and
2. ff^-1(B) = B <=> f is onto

Eric J. Wingler
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Youngstown State University
Lot-o-fun
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:31 pm
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The book is asking you to first show that

f f^{-1}(B) \subset B

Once you're done with that, show that

f f^{-1}(B) = B if and only if f is onto.

In article <bf317dec.0312191705.2275d727@posting.google.com>, Justin
Young <x_static66@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
on P. 20, problem 6.

The wording of the question is confusing to me:

Let X,Y be nonempty sets, and f:X->Y, if A is a subset of X, B a
subset of Y then prove:

(a) ff^-1(B) subset of B, and ff^-1(B) = B <=> f is onto;

now my question is,
let p : ff^-1(B) subset of B
q : ff^-1(B) = B
r : f is onto

am i trying to show p&q <=> r, or something else?

because since q => p, it seems strange to phrase it this way.
why not just say "prove q <=> r" ?

this strange phrasing makes me wonder if i am reading the question
wrong.
thanks for any assistance you can give.
 
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