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JOHN
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:21 am
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http://www.whale.to/vaccine/heising.html
Sarah Vaughan
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:49 am
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JOHN wrote:
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From the paper: "We have for more than a decade had the campaigns for
mandatory HIV-tests of pregnant women. Only women."

Thing is, Heising, I just don't think it's ever seemed worth the while
of any pressure group to campaign for mandatory testing of pregnant men.
Of course, if there are any pregnant men out there feeling slighted by
this, I'm sure the pressure groups could be persuaded to extend their remit.


All the best,

Sarah
--
http://www.goodenoughmummy.typepad.com

"That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be" - P. C. Hodgell
JOHN
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:07 am
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"Sarah Vaughan" <nannyogg@samael.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Thing is, Heising, I just don't think it's ever seemed worth the while of
any pressure group to campaign for mandatory testing of pregnant men. Of
course, if there are any pregnant men out there feeling slighted by this,
I'm sure the pressure groups could be persuaded to extend their remit.


Perhaps you could explain this one, tetanus vaccine just for women?:

Of most concern in Thailand is the use of the Tetanus Toxoid vaccine which
is used on pregnant Akha women and which we have documented to have caused
immediate spontaneous abortion within 24 hours of injection.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/akha.html

"At present, we are doing research on the Tetanus Vaccines that were given
last March 1994 by our Dept. of Health to women of reproductive age. Many of
the women complained of bleeding (miscarriages) and allergies. We got
alarmed recently when we received communications from Magally Llaguno that
the vaccine in Mexico contained hCG . . . If you have enough [research]
papers, could your group do a press release via international press like
Reuters so that all countries could be alerted?" Genocide in a vaccine:
Pantheism's moral Chemistry by Suzanne Rini
Administration of tetanus toxoid (either as TT or Td) in mass campaigns is
generally as part of a high risk approach delivering the vaccine to women of
childbearing age in a given locality............. 5 doses of tetanus toxoid
for women of child-bearing age as for non-HIV infected persons.
Supplementary information on vaccine safety WHO/V&B/00 (added emphasis)

"In 1995, a Catholic human rights organization called Human Life
International accused the WHO of promoting a Canadian-made tetanus vaccine
laced with a pregancy hormone called human choriogonadotropic hormone (HCG).
Suspicions were aroused when the tetanus vaccine was prescribed in the
unusual dose of five multiple injections over a three month period, and
recommended only to women of reproductive age. When an unusual number of
women experienced vaginal bleeding and miscarriages after the shots, a
hormone additive was uncovered as the cause.
Apparently the WHO has been developing and testing anti-fertility
vaccines for over two decades. Women receiving the laced tetanus shot not
only developed antibodies to tetanus, but they also developed dangerous
antibodies to the pregnancy hormone as well. Without this HCG hormone the
growth of the fetus is impaired. Consequently, the laced vaccine served as a
covert contraceptive device. Commissioned to analyze the vaccine, the
Philippines Medical Association found that 20 percent of the WHO tetanus
vaccines were contaminated with the hormone. Not surprisingly, the WHO has
denied all accusations as "completely false and without basis," and the
major media have never reported on the controversy. For futher details on
this issue, consult the Human Life International website (www.hli.org)."---
Dr Alan Cantwell MD



http://www.whale.to/m/sterile.html
Rob
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:56 am
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JOHN wrote:
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Your posts have always had pretty dodgy science, but this takes the cake
for the aluminium foil hat brigade.

As usual evidence that you provide that Cervical Cancer vaccination
produced reduced fertility = 0


In HPV 008 a double blind trial with more than 18,000 women with
cervical cancer Cervarix.

665 women fell pregnant during the trial in the Cervarix group as
compared 685 in the control group with in the first six months (even
though patients were asked to continue contraception and avoid pregnancy
for the first 8 months of the trial.)


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/acip/downloads/mtg-slides-jun07/34-hpv2-dubin.pdf


Can you imagine the law suits that would follow if Garidsil or Cervarix
caused reduced infertility? What company would deliberately expose
itself to that?

The foil on your hat needs replacing.
JOHN
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:13 pm
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"Rob" <User@example.com> wrote in message
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The foil on your hat needs replacing.


We can always trust the studies done by the maker ;0)

Good idea, don't want any of your propaganda getting in

http://www.whale.to/v/biowarfare.html

"But, at the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top
priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that
may be hard to accept, but it's true. The medical cartel, at the highest
level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them.
To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a
man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me
that he was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these
depopulation interests." http://www.whale.to/v/rapp.html
Guest
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:38 pm
On Nov 13, 2:21 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
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The study of vaccines for sterilizing females cannot be dismissed.

Consider this paper by Gupta:
Immunocontraceptive approaches in females.

and another with Gupta:
Contraceptive vaccine development: a mini review.

If this is what we are allowed to know...just how much are we not
allowed to know?...and just how are those in control using this secret
knowledge?

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine
Bryan Heit
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:07 pm
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drceephd@insightbb.com wrote:
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On Nov 13, 2:21 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/heising.html

The study of vaccines for sterilizing females cannot be dismissed.

Consider this paper by Gupta:
Immunocontraceptive approaches in females.

and another with Gupta:
Contraceptive vaccine development: a mini review.


Whooptie-do. All that those papers are about is attempts to make
vaccines which would allow a womans body to destroy sperm - AKA one-shot
birth control. Far cheaper then a lifetime on the pill, safer then
surgical intervention, and (in theory) permanent.

Which, of course, has no relevance to the vaccines used to fight
disease. These are vaccines specifically designed to induce anti-sperm
responses, which is exactly what they do.

Quote:
If this is what we are allowed to know...just how much are we not
allowed to know?...

You are "allowed" to know whatever you want. All clinical trials and
most scientific studies get released into the public domain in the form
of scientific and medical publications. So all you need to do to be
"allowed to know" is read.


Quote:
and just how are those in control using this secret
knowledge?

There is no secret knowledge. There isn't even a way to keep such
knowledge a secret - there are simply too many competing labs, all
studying the same stuff, for anyone to hide anything for long.

Hell, as a scientist I spend most of my time living in the fear of being
"scooped" - having another competing group publishing data similar to
the stuff I've been working on. This fear drives me (and every other
scientist out there) to publish *everything* as quickly as possible.

Its a cutthroat world, but one which you benefit greatly from.


And we're still waiting for you to verify your degrees. I notice you're
still cowering away from that challenge.

Bryan
Bud
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:17 pm
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JOHN wrote:
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Meanwhile, thousands die daily from diseases that immunizations would have
prevented because they were fed this inaccurate pap.

And what has it to do with m.h.arthritis in any case? Please peddle your
Troll-up trash elsewhere.

Bud

p.s. Plonk!
Harvey R. Stone
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:50 pm
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"Bud" <bud@romance.org> wrote in message
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JOHN wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/heising.html

Meanwhile, thousands die daily from diseases that immunizations would have
prevented because they were fed this inaccurate pap.

And what has it to do with m.h.arthritis in any case? Please peddle your
Troll-up trash elsewhere.

Bud

p.s. Plonk!

Well said Bud.... When people talk about thousands dieing, do we have any

idea how many people would be alive today if we kept using DDT for
mosquitoes and malaria. Millions IMO.
Harv
JOHN
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:50 am
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"Harvey R. Stone" <hrstone@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Well said Bud.... When people talk about thousands dieing, do we have
any idea how many people would be alive today if we kept using DDT for
mosquitoes and malaria. Millions IMO.
Harv

Millions would be alive if they didn't suppress the electrical and vitamin C
cures/treatments, and the polio vaccine hoax they used to suppress the DDT
cause is still killing and maiming all around the globe, they use the OPV to
specifically kill Africans http://www.whale.to/a/genocide_opv.html
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/hooper_h.html

"A Medical Doctor in Nigeria contacted us in 2001 asking if the blood
electrification aspect of the BECK Protocol was effective against Malaria.
We told him we didn't know but it could be. We sent him a unit to try on one
person who was willing to try it and whose life would not be put into danger
by trying it. About two months later we heard back from him-the units had
been effective with malaria in 5 out of 6 people." Blood Electrification
Effectiveness On Malaria

while the bat solution would be way better than dosing everything with DDT
"During the years 1907, 1908, 1909, and 1910, mosquitoes appeared as if in
clouds. In 1909 we were both very ill with malarial jaundice. In the
afore-mentioned years it was a sacrifice for us to irrigate at night, and no
one would help us for any amount of money. During the day it was almost
impossible for us to get rest, on account of being so pestered by the
mosquitoes. "Since the bat roost was erected, which was in the year 1911,
we have noticed a change year by year from the previous years. "During the
years 1912 and 1913 we were able to irrigate at night without being molested
by the mosquitoes, and since 1911 we have had no illness of malarial origin.
Allegation Three: That we can build a home for bats......and eradicate the
malaria in the vicinities where the homes are erected.

I'd trust the DDT promoters a bit more if they didn't have a history of
behaving like out and out psychopaths.
JOHN
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:55 am
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"Harvey R. Stone" <hrstone@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Well said Bud.... When people talk about thousands dieing, do we have
any idea how many people would be alive today if we kept using DDT for
mosquitoes and malaria. Millions IMO.
Harv
 
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