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| Felix Tilley |
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:41 am |
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If the Northridge EQ of 4:31 AM, Jan 17, 1994 had hit the previous
November, with winds like this week, the San Fernando Valley would have
burned to the ground.
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| Skywise |
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:18 pm |
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Felix Tilley <ftilley@linux.site> wrote in
news:pan.2007.10.25.05.41.22.823471@linux.site:
Quote: If the Northridge EQ of 4:31 AM, Jan 17, 1994 had hit the previous
November, with winds like this week, the San Fernando Valley would have
burned to the ground.
Yes, somewhere, someone mentioned that disaster prepardness drills
don't consider double-whammies. It's remote, but still possible
to have to natural disasters strike a region at the same time.
I myself commented to someone yesterday that all we need now is
for the San Andreas to let loose. (shudder)
Brian
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| Charles |
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:40 pm |
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:18:43 -0000, Skywise
<into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
Quote: Felix Tilley <ftilley@linux.site> wrote in
news:pan.2007.10.25.05.41.22.823471@linux.site:
If the Northridge EQ of 4:31 AM, Jan 17, 1994 had hit the previous
November, with winds like this week, the San Fernando Valley would have
burned to the ground.
Yes, somewhere, someone mentioned that disaster prepardness drills
don't consider double-whammies. It's remote, but still possible
to have to natural disasters strike a region at the same time.
I myself commented to someone yesterday that all we need now is
for the San Andreas to let loose. (shudder)
Brian
I've thought it would be worse during one of those years when it rains
and everything is mud. The whole area would level out. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:02 am |
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Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in
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Quote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:18:43 -0000, Skywise
into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
Felix Tilley <ftilley@linux.site> wrote in
news:pan.2007.10.25.05.41.22.823471@linux.site:
If the Northridge EQ of 4:31 AM, Jan 17, 1994 had hit the previous
November, with winds like this week, the San Fernando Valley would have
burned to the ground.
Yes, somewhere, someone mentioned that disaster prepardness drills
don't consider double-whammies. It's remote, but still possible
to have to natural disasters strike a region at the same time.
I myself commented to someone yesterday that all we need now is
for the San Andreas to let loose. (shudder)
Brian
I've thought it would be worse during one of those years when it rains
and everything is mud. The whole area would level out.
I hadn't thought of that. Liquifaction of soggy ground....likely
the water would percolate out and cause temprary flooding before
being re-absorbed into the ground. I wouldn't expect it to be but a
couple inches. But there could be more sand blows than otherwise.
I still think a quake during a fire storm, or during the conditions
for such would be worse. As it is a large quake is goign to cause
fires and it's going to be hard ot put them out. But to have it
happen at the height of a large wind storm would be disastrous x2.
The only other kind of event I can think of that would be as bad
might be a tsunami striking during a hurricane landfall.
Yeah, there's worse, like getting hit by a comet. BTW, anyone gone
out and seen comet Holmes? It's in massive outburst. I just came
in from watching it in my scope. Quite spectacular.
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/071025-comet-holmes.html
http://www.spaceweather.com/
Brian
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| George |
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:03 am |
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"Skywise" <into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in
news:hrr2i39v83h2s3t53t4ngof2vvgvfqhics@4ax.com:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:18:43 -0000, Skywise
into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
Felix Tilley <ftilley@linux.site> wrote in
news:pan.2007.10.25.05.41.22.823471@linux.site:
If the Northridge EQ of 4:31 AM, Jan 17, 1994 had hit the previous
November, with winds like this week, the San Fernando Valley would
have
burned to the ground.
Yes, somewhere, someone mentioned that disaster prepardness drills
don't consider double-whammies. It's remote, but still possible
to have to natural disasters strike a region at the same time.
I myself commented to someone yesterday that all we need now is
for the San Andreas to let loose. (shudder)
Brian
I've thought it would be worse during one of those years when it rains
and everything is mud. The whole area would level out.
I hadn't thought of that. Liquifaction of soggy ground....likely
the water would percolate out and cause temprary flooding before
being re-absorbed into the ground. I wouldn't expect it to be but a
couple inches. But there could be more sand blows than otherwise.
I still think a quake during a fire storm, or during the conditions
for such would be worse. As it is a large quake is goign to cause
fires and it's going to be hard ot put them out. But to have it
happen at the height of a large wind storm would be disastrous x2.
The only other kind of event I can think of that would be as bad
might be a tsunami striking during a hurricane landfall.
Yeah, there's worse, like getting hit by a comet. BTW, anyone gone
out and seen comet Holmes? It's in massive outburst. I just came
in from watching it in my scope. Quite spectacular.
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/071025-comet-holmes.html
http://www.spaceweather.com/
Brian
If it rains enough after this fire (like that's going to happen, right?),
then a large earthquake could cause massive landslides. Of course, since
all the vegetation is now burned away, heavy rains could cause landslides
all on their own, as happened after the fire in the Oakland hills.
George |
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:36 pm |
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"George" <george@yourservice.com> wrote in news:eXiUi.10246$u7.8105
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Quote: If it rains enough after this fire (like that's going to happen, right?),
then a large earthquake could cause massive landslides. Of course, since
all the vegetation is now burned away, heavy rains could cause landslides
all on their own, as happened after the fire in the Oakland hills.
Yep. And I'm following the Santiago fire closely. I have family
living in Silverado Canyon. Fortunately it appears they are managing
to keep the fire out of the canyon proper. It has never burned in
recorded history and as such, would be disastrously intense.
Also, I like to go hiking out there.
I'm very familiar with the area. I have gigs of GIS data on the area.
I had high res aerial imagery of the whole canyon years before Google
maps came along. The same data, btw.
I'd love to learn more about the geologic history of those mountains.
There's fossils in the area, and once I found what appears to be a
fault trace that I've not seen on any maps I know of.
Brian
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| George |
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:49 am |
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"Skywise" <into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "George" <george@yourservice.com> wrote in news:eXiUi.10246$u7.8105
@bignews2.bellsouth.net:
If it rains enough after this fire (like that's going to happen,
right?),
then a large earthquake could cause massive landslides. Of course,
since
all the vegetation is now burned away, heavy rains could cause
landslides
all on their own, as happened after the fire in the Oakland hills.
Yep. And I'm following the Santiago fire closely. I have family
living in Silverado Canyon. Fortunately it appears they are managing
to keep the fire out of the canyon proper. It has never burned in
recorded history and as such, would be disastrously intense.
Also, I like to go hiking out there.
I'm very familiar with the area. I have gigs of GIS data on the area.
I had high res aerial imagery of the whole canyon years before Google
maps came along. The same data, btw.
I'd love to learn more about the geologic history of those mountains.
There's fossils in the area, and once I found what appears to be a
fault trace that I've not seen on any maps I know of.
Brian
I've read that that area used to be mined for silver in the 19th century
(hence the name "Silverado Canyon"). Might be worth learning more about
it, literally. I bet there is some interesting mineralogy going on there.
If you found a fault line there, it might be worth doing some prospecting
along it to see what kind of minerals you can find.
George |
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:41 pm |
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"George" <george@yourservice.com> wrote in news:ZsGUi.7192$b9.1517
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Quote: I've read that that area used to be mined for silver in the 19th century
(hence the name "Silverado Canyon"). Might be worth learning more about
it, literally. I bet there is some interesting mineralogy going on there.
If you found a fault line there, it might be worth doing some prospecting
along it to see what kind of minerals you can find.
There are many mines in the area. All (that the gov knows of) are
sealed due to idiots getting themselves killed.
I have not yet been in any of the mines.
I don't get out there as often as I'd like. And when I do, about
all I have time for is a 2 or 3 hour quicky hike.
Brian
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Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
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| George |
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:06 am |
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"Skywise" <into@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "George" <george@yourservice.com> wrote in news:ZsGUi.7192$b9.1517
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
I've read that that area used to be mined for silver in the 19th century
(hence the name "Silverado Canyon"). Might be worth learning more about
it, literally. I bet there is some interesting mineralogy going on
there.
If you found a fault line there, it might be worth doing some
prospecting
along it to see what kind of minerals you can find.
There are many mines in the area. All (that the gov knows of) are
sealed due to idiots getting themselves killed.
I have not yet been in any of the mines.
I don't get out there as often as I'd like. And when I do, about
all I have time for is a 2 or 3 hour quicky hike.
Brian
That makes sense.
George |
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