Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

VM

Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

On Oct 23, 3:42 pm, turtle <turtlez...@webtv.net> wrote:
Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

virtual

virtual (vûr´ch¡-el) adjective
1.Existing or resulting in essence or effect though not in actual
fact, form, or name: the virtual extinction of the buffalo.
2.Existing in the mind, especially as a product of the imagination.
Used in literary criticism of text.

[Middle English virtuall, effective, from Medieval Latin virtuâlis,
from Latin virtús, excellence. See virtue.]
- vir´tual´ity (-àl´î-tê) noun

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On Oct 23, 3:42 pm, turtle <turtlez...@webtv.net> wrote:
Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

virtual

virtual (vûr´ch¡-el) adjective
1.Existing or resulting in essence or effect though not in actual
fact, form, or name: the virtual extinction of the buffalo.
2.Existing in the mind, especially as a product of the imagination.
Used in literary criticism of text.

[Middle English virtuall, effective, from Medieval Latin virtuâlis,
from Latin virtús, excellence. See virtue.]
- vir´tual´ity (-àl´î-tê) noun

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English
Language, Third Edition © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further
reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of
the United States. All rights reserved.

RP wrote:
On Oct 23, 3:42 pm, turtle <turtlez...@webtv.net> wrote:
Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

virtual

virtual (vûr´ch¡-el) adjective
1.Existing or resulting in essence or effect though not in actual
fact, form, or name: the virtual extinction of the buffalo.
2.Existing in the mind, especially as a product of the imagination.
Used in literary criticism of text.

[Middle English virtuall, effective, from Medieval Latin virtuâlis,
from Latin virtús, excellence. See virtue.]
- vir´tual´ity (-àl´î-tê) noun

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English
Language, Third Edition © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further
reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of
the United States. All rights reserved.

My next question would be----what is the virtual wavelength and
virtual energy of a virtual photon?

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Perhaps, but that is a very narrow criteria for a firm descision one would
think
criteriòn

Special relativity and photon theory are diametrically opposed to one
another.

RP <no_mail_no_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Special relativity and photon theory are diametrically opposed to one
another.

Most passing quantum opticians would model photons as being excitations
of EM field modes, and those modes would be solutions of Maxwells
equations. Are Maxwells equations not sufficiently relativistic for you?

Claiming a /diametric opposition/ would seem to be going a little too
far, don't you think?

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Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

a virtual photon?

perhaps one type that is pure of essence and intent?

perhaps an energy void of error or concept?

perhaps of realm yet unknown to our febrile concept of the universe?


"turtle" <turtlezero@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength or
energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

skeptical turtle

When you speak of (single) photons, you can't speak of energies or
wavelengths.

RP wrote:
On Oct 23, 3:42 pm, turtle <turtlez...@webtv.net> wrote:
Apparently since no one in the group has come up with the wavelength
or energy level of a virtual photon, I must assume that the concept is
highly theoretical.

My next question would be----what is the virtual wavelength and
virtual energy of a virtual photon?

turtle
Physical quantities don't depend on the energy of any one virtual

Thomas <n...@valid.org> wrote:
When you speak of (single) photons, you can't speak of energies or
wavelengths.

Yes, you can. You can define photons to be (single) excitations
of a quantized EM field mode; these modes are solutions to
the classical Maxwell's equations. If, for example, the modes
are those in an optical cavity (resonator), then they have a
specific energy and a specifc wavelength.

He may have been right concerning virtual photons. I don't think