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Mark Probert
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:05 pm
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Kevysmom wrote:
You are an innocent Mark.
I am far from "innocent" in that sense. I am far more informed than
you are.
Since you're so well informed, how about telling us about what causes
autism? Please clarify this for us...
While all the causes are not known
So you admit incompetence...
No, moron, I do not admit that. I acknowledge that this is an area where
further study is needed.

So you admit ignorance..

L e t t y p e V...e...r...y s...l...o...w...l...y...

No, I do not admit ignorance. I acknowledge that my knowledge is not
perfect.

Of course, you would not understand that, as you are an anti-vac liar.
Mark Probert
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:07 pm
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Kevysmom wrote:
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the
Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's
(CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an
author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
You forgot to prove he is paid.
Hmm... So Dr. Offit is being funded by Merck, but he's not being
paid by Merck. How interesting!
His research is funded by Merck. Do prove he personally derived a
profit.

So, Mr. Probert, would it be correct to say that Dr Offit is not
being paid for his efforts in the same way as you are not being
paid for your efforts?
Only morons use that.

Drivel deleted
So I'm giving you an opportunity to confirm that you are not being
paid for your efforts, and you decline to do so?
I do not have to confirm shit to assholes like you. You
anti-vaccination, pro-dead children morons use that tactic as a feeble
attempt to poison the well.

I do not play your moronic, asinine games.

If this post ruins your day, I would not be unhappy.
And so, Mr. Probert is still leaving open the possibility that he's
being remunerated for his efforts here...
Do you "think" you are the first asshole to play this game with me? The
record is clear, and you are in the dark.

BTW why is it that these advocates for Corporate Medicine happen to be
so foul-mouthed? Is this the latest trend in 'evidence based medicine'?
Morons like you bring that out in us. You post feces, and it is hard to
ignore the stench.
I've simply asked you a question of whether or not Dr Offit is not being
paid for his efforts in the same way as you are not being paid for your
efforts?
You have not simply asked anything.You have asked an accusatory question
where you implicitly claim that I am being paid for posting here.

I do not play with assholes who play that game

Mark, since you do spend most of your time here defending mainstream
medicine, for better or for worse, you _are_ the face of mainstream medicine
in these ngs. So perhaps it might be a good idea for you to think about
this, and to consider that all this gutter language that you're using may
reflect directly on the mainstream medicine, the reputation of which is
apparently so dear to your heart.

You give me way too much power, moron.

Quote:

Don't you worry about giving mainstream medicine a bad name?

Nope. Why should I when morons such as yourself give ample evidence of
the stupidity of alt med? Nothing I do can overcome that.

Quote:

I asked you a simple question, but instead of a simple answer we get all
this cussing...

Like I said, dingbat, it was not a simple question. Of course, being
simple, like yourself, you would not know that.
Kevysmom
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:17 pm
Guest
Quote:
No, I do not admit ignorance. I acknowledge that my knowledge is not
perfect.


LMAO!!!!! This is the truest post you ever posted! 5 star post Marky!




On Oct 30, 9:05 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Kevysmom wrote:
You are an innocent Mark.
I am far from "innocent" in that sense. I am far more informed than
you are.
Since you're so well informed, how about telling us about what causes
autism? Please clarify this for us...
While all the causes are not known
So you admit incompetence...
No, moron, I do not admit that. I acknowledge that this is an area where
further study is needed.

So you admit ignorance..

L e t t y p e V...e...r...y s...l...o...w...l...y...

No, I do not admit ignorance. I acknowledge that my knowledge is not
perfect.

Of course, you would not understand that, as you are an anti-vac liar.
Mark Probert
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:28 pm
Guest
Kevysmom wrote:
Quote:
No, I do not admit ignorance. I acknowledge that my knowledge is not
perfect.


LMAO!!!!! This is the truest post you ever posted! 5 star post Marky!


Unlike you and th\e other anti-vax liars, I know my limitations,.
However,the fact remains that there is no harm from vaccines, thimerosal
or not.
Kevysmom
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:32 pm
Guest
Quote:
However,the fact remains that there is no harm from vaccines, thimerosal
or not.

Then why did Bush Sr set up the Vaccine fund for children who have
been injured or killed by vaccines?? Why do we pay
a 75 cent tax on every vaccine to go into the piggy bank for children
who are harmed
from vaccines? Its safe, huh?

On Oct 30, 10:28 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Kevysmom wrote:
No, I do not admit ignorance. I acknowledge that my knowledge is not
perfect.

LMAO!!!!! This is the truest post you ever posted! 5 star post Marky!

Unlike you and th\e other anti-vax liars, I know my limitations,.
However,the fact remains that there is no harm from vaccines, thimerosal
or not.
Mark Probert
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:04 am
Guest
Kevysmom wrote:
Quote:
However,the fact remains that there is no harm from vaccines, thimerosal
or not.

Then why did Bush Sr set up the Vaccine fund for children who have
been injured or killed by vaccines?? Why do we pay
a 75 cent tax on every vaccine to go into the piggy bank for children
who are harmed
from vaccines? Its safe, huh?

NOTHING, even posting in newsgroups where dingbats contact employers and
family members is 100% safe.

However, in comparison to the diseases that vaccines prevent, the fact
is that vaccines are far safer than getting those

Quote:

On Oct 30, 10:28 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
No, I do not admit ignorance. I acknowledge that my knowledge is not
perfect.
LMAO!!!!! This is the truest post you ever posted! 5 star post Marky!
Unlike you and th\e other anti-vax liars, I know my limitations,.
However,the fact remains that there is no harm from vaccines, thimerosal
or not.

Kevysmom
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:18 pm
Guest
Quote:
Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything.


You are a complete idiot. Of course there are genes that chelate heavy
metals.


On Oct 29, 8:05 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
Quote:
Kevysmom wrote:
While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.

A genetic component...Like the gene that is used to chelate mercury
from the body?

Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything. Second, the idea that there
are poor mercury excreters is a M Y T H, and has never been proven. I do
acknowledge that there are studies showing something like this, but they
rely on wacko labs and poor science.
Peter Bowditch
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:25 pm
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Kevysmom <bluebunny8@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything.


You are a complete idiot. Of course there are genes that chelate heavy
metals.

Could you please explain the mechanism.

Thank you.

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Mark Probert
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:38 pm
Guest
Kevysmom wrote:
Quote:
Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything.


You are a complete idiot. Of course there are genes that chelate heavy
metals.

Not in a million years or more, of evolution.

Please spend some time reading Biology for Dummies.


Quote:
On Oct 29, 8:05 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.
A genetic component...Like the gene that is used to chelate mercury
from the body?
Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything. Second, the idea that there
are poor mercury excreters is a M Y T H, and has never been proven. I do
acknowledge that there are studies showing something like this, but they
rely on wacko labs and poor science.

Kevysmom
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:38 am
Guest
This is the only HINT I will give you.

Our results suggest that ubiquitination system
might be involved in protection against the toxicity of mercury
compounds, such as methylmercury, in eukaryotic cells.


http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/cgi/reprint/61/4/738.pdf#search=%22%20ubiquitination%20%20mercury%22


One more hint for the dummies....

Every Scientist, or Doctor who has studied mercury poisoning all agree
there are genes involved in protection from mercury poisoning. This is
why NOT all the kids in Japan were poisoned from the contaminated
fish.

On Oct 31, 11:38 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything.

You are a complete idiot. Of course there are genes that chelate heavy
metals.

Not in a million years or more, of evolution.

Please spend some time reading Biology for Dummies.



On Oct 29, 8:05 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.
A genetic component...Like the gene that is used to chelate mercury
from the body?
Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything. Second, the idea that there
are poor mercury excreters is a M Y T H, and has never been proven. I do
acknowledge that there are studies showing something like this, but they
rely on wacko labs and poor science.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
cognite tute
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:14 am
Guest
Kevysmom wrote:

Quote:
While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.



A genetic component...Like the gene that is used to chelate mercury
from the body?


On Oct 25, 7:32 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:

"Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:zE%Ti.3855$hG2.2058@trndny05...

Kevysmom wrote:

You are an innocent Mark.

I am far from "innocent" in that sense. I am far more informed than you
are.

Since you're so well informed, how about telling us about what causes
autism? Please clarify this for us...

While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.

Science, unlike ignorance, is not static.






Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky --http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends upon his not understanding it!" -- Upton Sinclair- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -





Do you know what chelate means?

if so, explain your use.

if not, explain what you mean.

j.
cognite tute
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:19 am
Guest
Kevysmom wrote:

Quote:
While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.



A genetic component...Like the gene that is used to chelate mercury
from the body?


On Oct 25, 7:32 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:

"Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:zE%Ti.3855$hG2.2058@trndny05...

Kevysmom wrote:

You are an innocent Mark.

I am far from "innocent" in that sense. I am far more informed than you
are.

Since you're so well informed, how about telling us about what causes
autism? Please clarify this for us...

While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.

Science, unlike ignorance, is not static.






Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky --http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends upon his not understanding it!" -- Upton Sinclair- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -




and btw

what do you think a gene does?

j.
cognite tute
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:00 am
Guest
Kevysmom wrote:

Quote:
This is the only HINT I will give you.

Our results suggest that ubiquitination system
might be involved in protection against the toxicity of mercury
compounds, such as methylmercury, in eukaryotic cells.


http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/cgi/reprint/61/4/738.pdf#search=%22%20ubiquitination%20%20mercury%22


One more hint for the dummies....

Every Scientist, or Doctor who has studied mercury poisoning all agree
there are genes involved in protection from mercury poisoning. This is
why NOT all the kids in Japan were poisoned from the contaminated
fish.

On Oct 31, 11:38 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:

Kevysmom wrote:

Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything.

You are a complete idiot. Of course there are genes that chelate heavy
metals.

Not in a million years or more, of evolution.

Please spend some time reading Biology for Dummies.




On Oct 29, 8:05 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:

Kevysmom wrote:

While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to be a
genetic component for autism to exist.

A genetic component...Like the gene that is used to chelate mercury
from the body?

Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything. Second, the idea that there
are poor mercury excreters is a M Y T H, and has never been proven. I do
acknowledge that there are studies showing something like this, but they
rely on wacko labs and poor science.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -




well, I will give you a hint.

Genes produce proteins. that's it.

They don't do anything else.

If some kids are less susceptable to Mercury poison, this may be
genetic, ie an inherent inherited capability of their body.

although there may be some other reason.

j.
Yuri Kuchinsky
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:30 am
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Quote:
Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
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Kevysmom wrote:
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the
Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease
Control's (CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an
author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares
a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
You forgot to prove he is paid.
Hmm... So Dr. Offit is being funded by Merck, but he's not being
paid by Merck. How interesting!
His research is funded by Merck. Do prove he personally derived a
profit.

So, Mr. Probert, would it be correct to say that Dr Offit is not
being paid for his efforts in the same way as you are not being
paid for your efforts?
Only morons use that.

Drivel deleted
So I'm giving you an opportunity to confirm that you are not being
paid for your efforts, and you decline to do so?
I do not have to confirm shit to assholes like you. You
anti-vaccination, pro-dead children morons use that tactic as a
feeble attempt to poison the well.

I do not play your moronic, asinine games.

If this post ruins your day, I would not be unhappy.
And so, Mr. Probert is still leaving open the possibility that he's
being remunerated for his efforts here...
Do you "think" you are the first asshole to play this game with me?
The record is clear, and you are in the dark.

BTW why is it that these advocates for Corporate Medicine happen to
be so foul-mouthed? Is this the latest trend in 'evidence based
medicine'?
Morons like you bring that out in us. You post feces, and it is hard
to ignore the stench.
I've simply asked you a question of whether or not Dr Offit is not
being paid for his efforts in the same way as you are not being paid
for your efforts?
You have not simply asked anything.You have asked an accusatory question
where you implicitly claim that I am being paid for posting here.

I do not play with assholes who play that game

Mark, since you do spend most of your time here defending mainstream
medicine, for better or for worse, you _are_ the face of mainstream
medicine in these ngs. So perhaps it might be a good idea for you to
think about this, and to consider that all this gutter language that
you're using may reflect directly on the mainstream medicine, the
reputation of which is apparently so dear to your heart.

You give me way too much power, moron.


Don't you worry about giving mainstream medicine a bad name?

Nope. Why should I when morons such as yourself give ample evidence of the
stupidity of alt med? Nothing I do can overcome that.

Ad hominem attacks can never serve as a persuasive argument in a debate.
You're old enough to know this, Mark.

Quote:
I asked you a simple question, but instead of a simple answer we get all
this cussing...

Like I said, dingbat, it was not a simple question. Of course, being
simple, like yourself, you would not know that.

Well, according to you, Dr Offit is not being paid for his efforts in
vaccine promotion. And I'm sure you'll also swear that you are not being
paid for your efforts here. So then where's the problem in comparing you to
Dr Offit?

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends upon his not understanding it!" -- Upton Sinclair
Jeff
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:51 pm
Guest
cognite tute wrote:
Quote:
Kevysmom wrote:

This is the only HINT I will give you.

Our results suggest that ubiquitination system
might be involved in protection against the toxicity of mercury
compounds, such as methylmercury, in eukaryotic cells.


http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/cgi/reprint/61/4/738.pdf#search=%22%20ubiquitination%20%20mercury%22



One more hint for the dummies....

Every Scientist, or Doctor who has studied mercury poisoning all agree
there are genes involved in protection from mercury poisoning. This is
why NOT all the kids in Japan were poisoned from the contaminated
fish.

On Oct 31, 11:38 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:

Kevysmom wrote:

Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything.

You are a complete idiot. Of course there are genes that chelate heavy
metals.

Not in a million years or more, of evolution.

Please spend some time reading Biology for Dummies.




On Oct 29, 8:05 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:

Kevysmom wrote:

While all the causes are not known, it appears that there has to
be a
genetic component for autism to exist.

A genetic component...Like the gene that is used to chelate mercury
from the body?

Nope. First, genes do not chelate anything. Second, the idea that
there
are poor mercury excreters is a M Y T H, and has never been proven.
I do
acknowledge that there are studies showing something like this, but
they
rely on wacko labs and poor science.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -




well, I will give you a hint.

Genes produce proteins. that's it.

They don't do anything else.

Gene's don't produce proteins. Ribosomes do.

Rather, genes provide the code for the proteins. The code is transcribed
to RNA then translated to protein by the ribosomes.

In addition, genes also help regulate gene expression and provide the
code for ribosomal RNA, transfer RNA and miRNA (microRNA).

Jeff

Quote:
If some kids are less susceptable to Mercury poison, this may be
genetic, ie an inherent inherited capability of their body.

although there may be some other reason.

j.
 
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