Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!

Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Kevysmom wrote:
Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
knows what he is talking about. You don't.

Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!

Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Can we say

"Conflict of Interest"!

No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.

BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
consider that they are violent.

BTW, read this:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124

Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).

On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
knows what he is talking about. You don't.
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Can we say

"Conflict of Interest"!
No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.

BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
consider that they are violent.

BTW, read this:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124

Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's
(CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).

You forgot to prove he is paid.

Kevysmom wrote:
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).

You forgot to prove he is paid.

As for the patent, he helped develop it and is legally entitled to its
benefit. It is fully disclosed.

Andy Wakefield also had a patent on a MMR substitute. No anti-vac liar
mentions that.

I wonder why.

Wondering over.

Anti-vac liars a hypocrites.



On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
knows what he is talking about. You don't.
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Can we say

"Conflict of Interest"!
No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.

BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
consider that they are violent.

BTW, read this:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's
(CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).



You forgot to prove he is paid.


Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of
Philadelphia, who was a committee member until last month. At the same
time, he shared a patent for another rotavirus vaccine. Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.


Merck bought and delivers copies of Offit's book, "What Every Parent
Should Know About Vaccines," to American doctors. The book has a list
price of $14.95.

"I am a co-holder of a patent for a (rotavirus) vaccine. If this
vaccine were to become a routinely recommended vaccine, I would make
money off of that," Offit said.


Republican staff on the House Government Reform Committee looked into
the CDC panel that recommended the vaccination. Their August 2001
report found that "four out of eight CDC advisory committee members
who voted to approve guidelines for the rotavirus vaccine in June 1998
had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies that were developing
different versions of the vaccine."

And now the GOOD news!!

The CDC said that in October 2002 it adopted new guidelines for
participating on that advisory committee that in the future will
preclude people with conflicts like Offit's from sitting on the
committee.


Any more questions Mark?

On Oct 21, 12:09 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
You forgot to prove he is paid.

As for the patent, he helped develop it and is legally entitled to its
benefit. It is fully disclosed.

Andy Wakefield also had a patent on a MMR substitute. No anti-vac liar
mentions that.

I wonder why.

Wondering over.

Anti-vac liars a hypocrites.



On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
knows what he is talking about. You don't.
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
Can we say
"Conflict of Interest"!
No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.
BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
consider that they are violent.
BTW, read this:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

You forgot to prove he is paid.

funded Offit's research for 13 years.

Kevysmom wrote:
Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's
(CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).

You forgot to prove he is paid.

Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of
Philadelphia, who was a committee member until last month. At the same
time, he shared a patent for another rotavirus vaccine.c

Merck bought and delivers copies of Offit's book, "What Every Parent
Should Know About Vaccines," to American doctors. The book has a list
price of $14.95.

"I am a co-holder of a patent for a (rotavirus) vaccine. If this
vaccine were to become a routinely recommended vaccine, I would make
money off of that," Offit said.

Republican staff on the House Government Reform Committee looked into
the CDC panel that recommended the vaccination. Their August 2001
report found that "four out of eight CDC advisory committee members
who voted to approve guidelines for the rotavirus vaccine in June 1998
had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies that were developing
different versions of the vaccine."

And now the GOOD news!!

The CDC said that in October 2002 it adopted new guidelines for
participating on that advisory committee that in the future will
preclude people with conflicts like Offit's from sitting on the
committee.

Any more questions Mark?

Yes, you forgot to prove he is paid. Paid means that he got cash in had,
quid pro quo for what he does.



On Oct 21, 12:09 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
You forgot to prove he is paid.> rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
You forgot to prove he is paid.

As for the patent, he helped develop it and is legally entitled to its
benefit. It is fully disclosed.

Andy Wakefield also had a patent on a MMR substitute. No anti-vac liar
mentions that.

I wonder why.

Wondering over.

Anti-vac liars a hypocrites.

On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
knows what he is talking about. You don't.
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
Can we say
"Conflict of Interest"!
No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.
BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
consider that they are violent.
BTW, read this:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124-Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html

the 200 year old lie.

Eg the MMR is safe liehttp://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr2.htmlthat they trot
out most days.

You forgot to prove he is paid.


Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!

Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.

Kevysmom wrote:
You forgot to prove he is paid.


Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!

Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.

Funding research is not being paid.

What a maroon.

My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)

Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.

Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.

This is true.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.

Jeff

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong.

Mark Probert wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
You forgot to prove he is paid.

Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!

Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.

Funding research is not being paid.

What a maroon.

My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)

Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.

Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.

This is true.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.

Jeff

My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)

Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.

Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.

This is true.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.

Jeff


Thank You Jeff... You always get on me when I resort to name calling,
I was wondering if you would
make a remark about Mark doing it.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong.

And it doesnt mean he is RIGHT! )

Donna




On Oct 22, 8:26 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
You forgot to prove he is paid.
Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!
Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.
Funding research is not being paid.
What a maroon.
My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)

Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.

Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.

This is true.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.

Jeff

Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!

Best,

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky --http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku


You have a wonderful gift with words!!! I really enjoyed reading
somethings on your web page!

Thank You Yuri!


On Oct 20, 2:59 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
"Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1192900949.618048.242430@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
knows what he is talking about. You don't.

Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!! Can we say
"Conflict of Interest"!

Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!

Best,

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky --http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies." -- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular
Medicine --http://www.orthomed.org

Kevysmom wrote:
Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
companies that
is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).

You forgot to prove he is paid.

But he is right. And that you cannot disprove without bringing up
collateralmatters.

Put that in your brain and think about it.

No, I did not call you a name.

Kevysmom wrote:
My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)

Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.

Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.

This is true.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.

Jeff

Thank You Jeff... You always get on me when I resort to name calling,
I was wondering if you would
make a remark about Mark doing it.

You have no basis towhine about whaqt I have *returned* to you. If you
do not like it, then do not do it.

For me, it is meaningless.



However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong.

And it doesnt mean he is RIGHT! )

But he is right. And that you cannot disprove without bringing up
collateralmatters.

Put that in your brain and think about it.

No, I did not call you a name.





Donna

On Oct 22, 8:26 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
You forgot to prove he is paid.
Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!
Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.
Funding research is not being paid.
What a maroon.
My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)

Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.

Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.

This is true.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.

Jeff- Hide quoted text -

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But he is right. And that you cannot disprove without bringing up
collateralmatters.

Put that in your brain and think about it.

No, I did not call you a name.


What is a Maroon???

Jeff knows that Dr Off his Rocker is paid by Merck and there for has a
conflict of interest, So anything that
Dr Off his Rocker has to say about safety of vaccines is void!

Cheers! )


On Oct 22, 11:01 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)
Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.
Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.
This is true.
However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.
Jeff
Thank You Jeff... You always get on me when I resort to name calling,
I was wondering if you would
make a remark about Mark doing it.
You have no basis towhine about whaqt I have *returned* to you. If you
do not like it, then do not do it.

For me, it is meaningless.



However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong.
And it doesnt mean he is RIGHT! )
But he is right. And that you cannot disprove without bringing up
collateralmatters.

Put that in your brain and think about it.

No, I did not call you a name.





Donna
On Oct 22, 8:26 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
You forgot to prove he is paid.
Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!
Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.
Funding research is not being paid.
What a maroon.
My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)
Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.
Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.
This is true.
However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.
Jeff- Hide quoted text -
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I don't know who Dr Off his Rocker is. You wouldn't be doing name
calling, now would you?

And a conflict of interest does not mean that what Dr. Offit says is
void, but, rather, his conflict of interest should be taken into account.

Please don't put words into my mouth, especially words that are
name-calling.

The kids on my maroon soccer team would call them "mean" words.

Kevysmom wrote:
But he is right. And that you cannot disprove without bringing up
collateralmatters.

Put that in your brain and think about it.

No, I did not call you a name.

What is a Maroon???

A color, kind of like a shade a red.

Jeff knows that Dr Off his Rocker is paid by Merck and there for has a
conflict of interest, So anything that
Dr Off his Rocker has to say about safety of vaccines is void!

I don't know who Dr Off his Rocker is. You wouldn't be doing name
calling, now would you?

And a conflict of interest does not mean that what Dr. Offit says is
void, but, rather, his conflict of interest should be taken into account.

Please don't put words into my mouth, especially words that are
name-calling.

The kids on my maroon soccer team would call them "mean" words.

Jeff



Cheers! )

On Oct 22, 11:01 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com
wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)
Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.
Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.
This is true.
However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.
Jeff
Thank You Jeff... You always get on me when I resort to name calling,
I was wondering if you would
make a remark about Mark doing it.
You have no basis towhine about whaqt I have *returned* to you. If you
do not like it, then do not do it.

For me, it is meaningless.

However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong.
And it doesnt mean he is RIGHT! )
But he is right. And that you cannot disprove without bringing up
collateralmatters.

Put that in your brain and think about it.

No, I did not call you a name.

Donna
On Oct 22, 8:26 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
You forgot to prove he is paid.
Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!
Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.
Funding research is not being paid.
What a maroon.
My soccer team wears maroon shirts. But she's not on my team. (When
insulting someone, people who get the spelling wrong look like morons.)
Of course, funding research is not being paid. Funding research means
paying a lab, university or other people or organizations to do
particular research. They don't pay you to give them money.
Perhaps, you meant that getting funding is not getting paid.
This is true.
However, the funding often pays part of the salary of the investigators.
And even if it doesn't there is a conflict of interest. However, this
doesn't mean Offit is wrong. But, it is reasonable to question his
objectivity because of the conflict of interest.
Jeff- Hide quoted text -
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