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| Inger E Johansson |
 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:47 am |
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David,
I gave you the opportunity long ago that if you had sent me a correct
mailaddress to my mailbox you would have had the information. You didn't
thus you can't complain now.
Inger E
"David Johnson" <trolleyfan_spamfree@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
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[quote:d1697e6d88]Katherine Griffis-Greenberg <egylist@deadspamgriffis-consulting.com
wrote in news:toad801nk8ec57hql06jjdg1inn6e2cbri@4ax.com:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:55:34 GMT, Philip Deitiker
Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> in sci.archaeology, wrote the following:
To Inger:
No, it is your problem, if you make claims but fail to support
them, then get out of science groups.
Since Inger fails to give proper references and gives pointers to sites
which don't prove what she says they do, why does she bother to post at
all?
I've asked that myself. Guess what? She didn't answer...
David
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"You're a loony, you are!"
"They said that about Galileo, they said that about Einstein..."
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| Philip Deitiker |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:01 pm |
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"Inger E Johansson" <inger_e.johansson@notelia.com> says in
news:VTxhc.56813$mU6.234106@newsb.telia.net:
[quote:403a6e3e0e]Doug,
are you a scholar? I thought every scholar knew how to
follow the references presented within refered text written
in a reference. It takes time to do so. I know it's much
easier to have other doing the search and validation. I
will not do yours.
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I did not present any references, nor did you. I presented some
'light' reading material that might explain where in the vast
oblivian of hell where in the devil you come from.
The reference if any is in france and Doug probably does not
have access to that information unless the claimant, you,
provides it. It is incredibly selfish, rude, unscholarly to make
a claim based on a obscure reference and then not make a fair
use disclosure as to what is in the reference.
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Philip
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Mol. Anth. Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNAanthro/
Mol. Evol. Hominids http://home.att.net/~DNAPaleoAnth/
Evol. of Xchrom.
http://home.att.net/~DNAPaleoAnth/xlinked.htm
Pal. Anth. Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Paleoanthro/
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| Philip Deitiker |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:02 pm |
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| Tom McDonald |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:17 pm |
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Inger E Johansson wrote:
[quote:27bc2ca63c]Katherine,
I don't fail to give references. On the contrary - I have sent the
references for everything over and over in discussions during the years -
contrary to you I know how to do prover studies: either you look closer into
the references given or you have to accept that you have to wait. I am
neither here to do your homework or to repeat the references over and over
again!
We have discussed the details over the last 7 years. If you haven't been
here that long, your problem not mine.
I suggest that you stopp abusing me and that includes your personal attacks
where you have attacked me over and over in the group. Yes I do have the
right to defend myself and Yes I will not take anything alike the lines
below from you anymore.
Inger E
[/quote:27bc2ca63c]
Wow! Now *that's* the pot calling the St. Louis Arch black!
Tom McDonald
[quote:27bc2ca63c]"Katherine Griffis-Greenberg" <egylist@deadspamgriffis-consulting.com> skrev
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:55:34 GMT, Philip Deitiker
Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> in sci.archaeology, wrote the following:
To Inger:
No, it is your problem, if you make claims but fail to support
them, then get out of science groups.
Since Inger fails to give proper references and gives pointers to sites
which don't prove what she says they do, why does she bother to post at
all? It is as if she invites abuse by her actions purposely, and then
complains about it?
Sad.
(20 more to go and only 9 days left).
So what happens when she reaches 50? I seem to have missed that.
--
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg
Oriental Institute
Oriental Studies Doctoral Program [Egyptology]
Oxford University
Oxford, United Kingdom
http://www.griffis-consulting.com
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| Philip Deitiker |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:37 pm |
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| Doug Weller |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:46 pm |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:08:05 GMT, Inger E Johansson wrote:
[quote:f77eabaf8c]Doug,
are you a scholar? I thought every scholar knew how to follow the references
presented within refered text written in a reference. It takes time to do
so. I know it's much easier to have other doing the search and validation. I
will not do yours.
[/quote:f77eabaf8c]
I have asked a very simple question. How do you substantiate your claim
for an extant copy? I have seen no reference that would do that, so I find
it difficult to follow an nonexistent reference presented within refered
text written in a reference (whatever that means).
It would be both polite and scholarly to provide an answer to my question.
You are neither polite nor a scholar, as is shown clearly in your response
to me.
My conclusion is that you are stonewalling.
Doug
[quote:f77eabaf8c]Inger E
"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.thisremove.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:07:27 GMT, Inger E Johansson wrote:
since we do have persons in this group with more knowledge about the
copy,
and since Philip managed to send a ref to an url where at least part of
the
information quoted by the author were word by word identical to correct
information re. Verendrye's voyage respectively Verendrye's meeting with
a
Swedish scholar discussing the stone's text; I find it hard to believe
that
you can be serious if you continue to ask me to produce ref.
Philip gave no reference to anything verifying your claim for a copy. Once
again, as with your alleged EU law, your dictionary, etc., you are
refusing
to offer information. I want you to substantiate your claim for an extant
copy, nothing else. Since you won't, I assume that as with other such
claims (the EU law, your dictionary), you can't.
[SNIP]
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| Katherine Griffis-Greenbe |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:55 pm |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:46:28 GMT, "Inger E Johansson"
<inger_e.johansson@notelia.com> in sci.archaeology, wrote the
following:
[quote:1d2cc81096]contrary to you I know how to do prover studies: either you look closer into
the references given or you have to accept that you have to wait. I am
neither here to do your homework or to repeat the references over and over
again!
[/quote:1d2cc81096]
LOL. Inger, you have failed to give any proper reference for any issue
I have asked of you, such as the EU law, copyright, or the so-called
"usenet law," and so on.
Your inability to post even the most basic reference is well-known on
this and other newsgroups. OTOH, I tend to cite a minimum of 3-5
references in my answers on most topics I write about (unless it's
strictly my opinion on a subject being asked). I think a review of
Deja/Google of either of our addresses will bear me out on this, if
anyone is basically bored enough to do this.
Besides, it seems you said something quite different a few months ago
when you wrote to me, and complimented me by saying that my "...lines
are superb and always have made me rethink more than once after thinking
twice."
Ah, how things have apparently changed since then. That's just something
I will have to live with, I suppose.
Perhaps one day you will actually be capable of giving a proper citation
for your claims. Until then, you are less than credible, as far as I am
concerned.
Done.
--
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg
Oriental Institute
Oriental Studies Doctoral Program [Egyptology]
Oxford University
Oxford, United Kingdom
http://www.griffis-consulting.com |
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| David Johnson |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:10 pm |
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Philip Deitiker <Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote in news:vbzhc.15885
$um3.349612@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
[quote:cdfba806f9]"Inger E Johansson" <inger_e.johansson@notelia.com> says in
news:Nsyhc.90440$dP1.273995@newsc.telia.net:
David,
I gave you the opportunity long ago that if you had sent me
a correct mailaddress to my mailbox you would have had the
information. You didn't thus you can't complain now.
I gave you the opportunity to upload your 'privilidged' material
to a close site which group members here can use. You haven't
thus you shouldn't complain to David.
[/quote:cdfba806f9]
And I _told_ her my correct address (remove the "_spamfree" from the
address listed - it shouldn't be _that_ difficult a concept for someone
who helped invent emailing and usenet). She, however, went off on a rant
on how my address "trolleyfan" meant I was a "troll" (apparently never
having heard of the word "trolley" before - but I'll let that one go, as
"tram" seems to be more likely the term where she "learned" English...).
From: Inger E Johansson (inger_e.johansson@telia.com)
Subject: Re: The Vinland Map Find Or Fraud?
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Date: 2003-01-28 00:02:29 PST
David,
you are the troll you yourself written in the "trolleyfan..." of
your faked address.
Mind you, this was over a _year_ after I asked:
From: David Johnson (trolleyfan@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Columbus and the Scandinavians
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Date: 2001-11-27 23:22:59 PST
Inger E Johansson wrote:
[quote:cdfba806f9]
> Thomas,
> due to you deliberate(?) trying to misunderstand what I am writing
> I see no alternative but to ask for you credentials. Of course the
> yes meant that I have more information. And no I am not in the
> mood throwing pearl to the pigs, in other word I am not sending
> all myinformation and/or ref. to an open discussion group, why
> should I when no one else is.
[/quote:cdfba806f9]
Just out of curiosity, why the #$%^* do you even _post_ here in the
first place then?
Not that I expect an answer, you understand, it just seems that
there is absolutely no reason for you to be here...
So why are you?
And I asked again a year _after_ the whole "you have a fake email
address" thingy:
From: David Johnson (trolleyfan_spamfree@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Question for inger
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology, soc.history.medieval
Date: 2003-12-18 10:49:07 PST
but I gotta ask yet again...Inger, why do you even bother _posting_
here then?
Now, Inger probably won't read this far - or carefully enough (certainly
her answer to me on this one suggests she didn't read my post terribly
well) - but now I'll up my questions to three:
1) Inger, why do you even bother _posting_ here then?
2) Why, if email trouble was the problem preventing you answering
question 1, would you wait over a year to complain my email
address is "fake" (and then, in regards to a completely different
subject)?
3) And, why in the _world_ would the answer to "why do you even
bother _posting_ here then?" _be_ "privileged, email-only"
information???
David
(not expecting a single relevant answer to any question to Inger...)
--
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David Johnson home.earthlink.net/~trolleyfan
"You're a loony, you are!"
"They said that about Galileo, they said that about Einstein..."
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| Tedd Jacobs |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:53 pm |
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"Katherine Griffis-Greenberg" wrote...
[quote:c97e857bcd]Philip Deitiker in sci.archaeology, wrote the following:
To Inger:
No, it is your problem, if you make claims but fail to support
them, then get out of science groups.
Since Inger fails to give proper references and gives pointers to sites
which don't prove what she says they do, why does she bother to post at
all? It is as if she invites abuse by her actions purposely, and then
complains about it?
Sad.
[/quote:c97e857bcd]
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| Inger E Johansson |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:10 pm |
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Katherine,
grow up
Inger E
"Katherine Griffis-Greenberg" <egylist@deadspamgriffis-consulting.com> skrev
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[quote:48488bd6ef]On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:46:28 GMT, "Inger E Johansson"
inger_e.johansson@notelia.com> in sci.archaeology, wrote the
following:
contrary to you I know how to do prover studies: either you look closer
into
the references given or you have to accept that you have to wait. I am
neither here to do your homework or to repeat the references over and
over
again!
LOL. Inger, you have failed to give any proper reference for any issue
I have asked of you, such as the EU law, copyright, or the so-called
"usenet law," and so on.
Your inability to post even the most basic reference is well-known on
this and other newsgroups. OTOH, I tend to cite a minimum of 3-5
references in my answers on most topics I write about (unless it's
strictly my opinion on a subject being asked). I think a review of
Deja/Google of either of our addresses will bear me out on this, if
anyone is basically bored enough to do this.
Besides, it seems you said something quite different a few months ago
when you wrote to me, and complimented me by saying that my "...lines
are superb and always have made me rethink more than once after thinking
twice."
Ah, how things have apparently changed since then. That's just something
I will have to live with, I suppose.
Perhaps one day you will actually be capable of giving a proper citation
for your claims. Until then, you are less than credible, as far as I am
concerned.
Done.
--
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg
Oriental Institute
Oriental Studies Doctoral Program [Egyptology]
Oxford University
Oxford, United Kingdom
http://www.griffis-consulting.com[/quote:48488bd6ef] |
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| Inger E Johansson |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:11 pm |
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David,
you told me but I requested you to send me a mail for me to reply on. That's
the one and only thing I have asked people to do if they are polite and
honest that is of course.
Inger E
"David Johnson" <trolleyfan_spamfree@earthlink.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:Xns94D285F014B67trolleyfanearthlinkn@207.217.125.202...
[quote:bcb606ab98]Philip Deitiker <Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote in news:vbzhc.15885
$um3.349612@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
"Inger E Johansson" <inger_e.johansson@notelia.com> says in
news:Nsyhc.90440$dP1.273995@newsc.telia.net:
David,
I gave you the opportunity long ago that if you had sent me
a correct mailaddress to my mailbox you would have had the
information. You didn't thus you can't complain now.
I gave you the opportunity to upload your 'privilidged' material
to a close site which group members here can use. You haven't
thus you shouldn't complain to David.
And I _told_ her my correct address (remove the "_spamfree" from the
address listed - it shouldn't be _that_ difficult a concept for someone
who helped invent emailing and usenet). She, however, went off on a rant
on how my address "trolleyfan" meant I was a "troll" (apparently never
having heard of the word "trolley" before - but I'll let that one go, as
"tram" seems to be more likely the term where she "learned" English...).
From: Inger E Johansson (inger_e.johansson@telia.com)
Subject: Re: The Vinland Map Find Or Fraud?
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Date: 2003-01-28 00:02:29 PST
David,
you are the troll you yourself written in the "trolleyfan..." of
your faked address.
Mind you, this was over a _year_ after I asked:
From: David Johnson (trolleyfan@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Columbus and the Scandinavians
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology
Date: 2001-11-27 23:22:59 PST
Inger E Johansson wrote:
Thomas,
due to you deliberate(?) trying to misunderstand what I am writing
I see no alternative but to ask for you credentials. Of course the
yes meant that I have more information. And no I am not in the
mood throwing pearl to the pigs, in other word I am not sending
all myinformation and/or ref. to an open discussion group, why
should I when no one else is.
Just out of curiosity, why the #$%^* do you even _post_ here in the
first place then?
Not that I expect an answer, you understand, it just seems that
there is absolutely no reason for you to be here...
So why are you?
And I asked again a year _after_ the whole "you have a fake email
address" thingy:
From: David Johnson (trolleyfan_spamfree@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: Question for inger
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology, soc.history.medieval
Date: 2003-12-18 10:49:07 PST
but I gotta ask yet again...Inger, why do you even bother _posting_
here then?
Now, Inger probably won't read this far - or carefully enough (certainly
her answer to me on this one suggests she didn't read my post terribly
well) - but now I'll up my questions to three:
1) Inger, why do you even bother _posting_ here then?
2) Why, if email trouble was the problem preventing you answering
question 1, would you wait over a year to complain my email
address is "fake" (and then, in regards to a completely different
subject)?
3) And, why in the _world_ would the answer to "why do you even
bother _posting_ here then?" _be_ "privileged, email-only"
information???
David
(not expecting a single relevant answer to any question to Inger...)
--
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David Johnson home.earthlink.net/~trolleyfan
"You're a loony, you are!"
"They said that about Galileo, they said that about Einstein..."
"Yeah, and they said it about a good few loonies, too!"[/quote:bcb606ab98] |
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| Philip Deitiker |
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:43 pm |
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| Katherine Griffis-Greenbe |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:53:10 -0600, "Tedd Jacobs"
<Jacobs@mail.boisestate.edu> in sci.archaeology, wrote the following:
[quote:03861fb00e]
"Katherine Griffis-Greenberg" wrote...
Philip Deitiker in sci.archaeology, wrote the following:
To Inger:
No, it is your problem, if you make claims but fail to support
them, then get out of science groups.
Since Inger fails to give proper references and gives pointers to sites
which don't prove what she says they do, why does she bother to post at
all? It is as if she invites abuse by her actions purposely, and then
complains about it?
Sad.
what's sadder is that knowing this the group continues to reply.
[/quote:03861fb00e]
True. Well, I'm done. It's apparent to me that Inger will never give a
proper citation for *any* claim she makes, and rather enjoys the
continued pleading for same. I would suppose that all continued replies
to her will only feed her ego more, as she certainly relishes being a
martyr of her own creation.
I was interested in seeing how this thread went, particularly since it's
her "expert" area. Sadly, even here she cannot be forthright about her
claims, which makes her 'inabilities' rise to the highest level of
disingenuousness, in all of the most commonly accepted senses of that
word.
In answer to Philip's query, why yes, I do have a bottle or two of
excess Irish Whiskey laying about.  I see your point now.
--
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg
Oriental Institute
Oriental Studies Doctoral Program [Egyptology]
Oxford University
Oxford, United Kingdom
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| Njygaard |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:38:18 GMT, "Inger E Johansson"
<inger_e.johansson@notelia.com> wrote:
[quote:779946f9f9]Njygaard,
since you never sent me a private mail, at least nothing I seen, you haven't
been included in the group that have full access to my referrences. Nor have
you been included in the group that have had parts of my references. You
could have done so, you still can do so.
[/quote:779946f9f9]
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I thought I said as much. I don't like secret references. Information
wants to be free. I assume you realize that people are wondering why
your hypothesis can't stand open critizism?
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| Njygaard |
| Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:04 am |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:02:25 GMT, Philip Deitiker
<Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote:
[quote:d0b8bffa32]Katherine Griffis-Greenberg
egylist@deadspamgriffis-consulting.com> says in
news:toad801nk8ec57hql06jjdg1inn6e2cbri@4ax.com:
So what happens when she reaches 50? I seem to have missed
that.
Do you have any excess bottles of Irish Whiskey laying around.
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There is no such thing as an excess bottle of whiskey. If you don't
know this, you are clearly not fit to own one. Mail me for shipping
instructions.
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