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| Guest |
 Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:57 pm |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:03 pm |
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On Sep 11, 6:57 pm, knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote: http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=businessNews&stor...
Doesn't matter. It's going to happen. Say goodbye to cheap tortillas. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:03 pm |
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| Bob Eld |
| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:41 pm |
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<knews4u2chew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189547849.153562.216780@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
7-09-11T162914Z_01_L11879479_RTRUKOC_0_US-BIOFUELS-OECD-REPORT.xml&src=rss&r
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Short sided idiotic article based on corn ethanol. Biofuels are with us and
will continue to be and at some point will make a major inroads into the use
of petroleum, like it or not. There is actually no choice with oil now
pushing $80 and likely to go much higher in years to come. Petroleum will
one day be priced out of the market and biofuels will be a large part of
that shift.
The issue is to make the fuels from NON-FOOD sources such as cellulose. Much
research is being done and cellulostic etanol will soon replace corn ethanol
as one of the fuels of choice. Cellulose is from farm waste or grass and
other plants grown on otherwise unproductive land. It's impact on food
production should be minimal.
Another potential biofuel that we should hear alot about in the near future
is Dimethol Furan or DMF. This stuff has the energy of gasoline and is
directly useable in an ICE. It should also be made from cellulose.
Biodiesel oil from algae, not food oil seeds, also shows great promise for
the future. This stuff can be grown in saltwater opening the potential of
using the oceans instead of farm land for production.
Despite what this nonsensical article predicts, biofuels well very much be
with us as we go forward into the future. |
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| the_blogologist |
| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:25 am |
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It costs 1 unit of fuel to produce 1.2 units of ethanol from corn. But
it costs 1 unit of fuel to produce 8 units of ethanol from sugar cane.
Bush's ethanol program is just welfare for farmers.
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| Dan Bloomquist |
| Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:41 am |
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the_blogologist wrote:
Quote: It costs 1 unit of fuel to produce 1.2 units of ethanol from corn. But
it costs 1 unit of fuel to produce 8 units of ethanol from sugar cane.
Bush's ethanol program is just welfare for farmers.
Idiot, this has nothing to do with expected output in quads even in
twenty years.
Show your numbers. I have........... |
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