I don't think so. That would be an astonishing jump. China's
productivity,
overall, sucks in a big way.

Production is another matter. For that, you just put more people and
machines to work.

Their agricultural productivity is up a good deal.

Actually, the problem is that other countries subsidize their
technology. The Co. I worked for is moving to Canada, since the Canadian
gvmt built them a brandy-new place to manufacture. Sor far, 3 companies,
once employing nearly 20% of this town's total population have moved out
to either Canada or Mexico due to subsidies (or a sense that paying
susbistance wages is wonderful for eerybody) in the past 5 years.
Competition and competitiveness are great-but the playing field should
be no more than a 20% tilt, as opposed to the near vertical it is now....

"Gordon Couger" <gcouger@NOSPAMprovalue.net> wrote in message
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I don't think so. That would be an astonishing jump. China's
productivity,
overall, sucks in a big way.

Production is another matter. For that, you just put more people and
machines to work.

Their agricultural productivity is up a good deal.

That's fine, but we were talking about manufacturing.

Over the same period of time there has been a considerable increase of the

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"Gordon Couger" <gcouger@NOSPAMprovalue.net> wrote in message
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I don't think so. That would be an astonishing jump. China's
productivity,
overall, sucks in a big way.

Production is another matter. For that, you just put more people and
machines to work.

Their agricultural productivity is up a good deal.

That's fine, but we were talking about manufacturing.

Over the same period of time there has been a considerable increase of the
industrial worker productivity transitioning from a goverment owned system
to privately owned profit based system. They are a good way from being
there
but days are gone were everyone has a job. They have a long way to go but
they have started on the trip.

Gordon

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"Gordon Couger" <gcouger@NOSPAMprovalue.net> wrote in message
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I don't think so. That would be an astonishing jump. China's
productivity,
overall, sucks in a big way.

Production is another matter. For that, you just put more people
and
machines to work.

Their agricultural productivity is up a good deal.

That's fine, but we were talking about manufacturing.

Over the same period of time there has been a considerable increase of
the
industrial worker productivity transitioning from a goverment owned
system
to privately owned profit based system. They are a good way from being
there
but days are gone were everyone has a job. They have a long way to go
but
they have started on the trip.

Gordon



Independent sources, such as the World Bank, say that China now has 6% of
the manufacturing productivity of the US. But that's an aggregate figure,
and the productivity of quality metalworking shops and plants in coastal
cities is said to be very close to ours. With 25% unemployment and another
25% underemployment, a shaky banking system, and a destructive policy that
outlaws migration to the cities, it's anybody's guess where they'll wind
up
in the long run. No command-and-control economy has ever been successful
for
long.

However, most of the competitive pressure we're feeling right now is from
joint-venture companies, with Western partners, that are running on
foreign
capital and which are exporting to foreign markets. They're the ones doing
the damage to US manufacturing and they probably can do a lot of it, for
quite a long time to come, even if China's domestic economy never really
gets rolling.

Ed,

After watching my son's mother in law's problems and obstacles your right
that they have a long way to go. But they are making progress. It all hinges
on the goverment being able to transition to one that encourages business
that has a local base as well as being the least cost producer.
At the same time they have to keep the army under control that would rather
things be like they were under Mao.

The first world is doing their best to help China and other third world
countries by becoming less friendly to business and manufacturing by the
day. If I am going to manufacture something why would I choose to do it in
the US where all my income is taxed no matter where it is earned, I have to
pay workers comp, payroll taxes, put up with OSHA and what ever other state
federal agencies might regulate things when I can do it in Mexico for a
small bribe and train some local worker to do the work with parts from the
cheapest source that can meet the quality and incorporate in one of the
handy Caribbean Islands and only pay taxes on the money I bring in this
country.

I don't think China is ready for a small business to try to do
business there.

I get special gears cut from anti-gauling stainless steel,

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I get special gears cut from anti-gauling stainless steel,


Is that something like Freedom Fries ?

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I get special gears cut from anti-gauling stainless steel,


Is that something like Freedom Fries ?

Can you translate this into English, My American is not good enough to
understand this