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| Liam |
 Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:15 pm |
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(1) Is the Arabic name of the media outlet Al-Jazeera/Jazira
the same as the Syrian region Al-Jazira? (meaning "the lake"
in both cases)?
(2) Are the Slavic words for lake, e.g. Ru. ozero, Pl. jezioro, etc.
borrowed from Arabic?
Thank you.
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| Yusuf B Gursey |
| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:28 pm |
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In sci.lang Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@wxs.nl> wrote in <9vg6709q0nned5vp59r3nuk7coan07i0v9@4ax.com>:
: On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:15:44 -0400, "Liam"
: <liam_deburca@yahoo.com> wrote:
:>(1) Is the Arabic name of the media outlet Al-Jazeera/Jazira
:>the same as the Syrian region Al-Jazira? (meaning "the lake"
both the Arabian peninsula and NW mesopotamia (hence the syrian province)
are knwon as al-jazi:ra(t)
:>in both cases)?
not lake.
: jazi:rah (pl. jaza:?ir or juzur) means "island", cq.
jazi:ra(t) . strictly "island" but it is used for any land substantially
surrounded by water (incl. rivers). more narrowly peninsula is *sh*ibhu
jazir:a(t) . MS arabic prefers the plural juzur .
: "peninsula". The name is given to Arabia, NW Mespotamia,
: Algiers (al-Jaza?ir) and Algeciras.
al-jaza:'ir "Algiers" refers to the islands in the harbor (AFAIK now
connected with landfill?) |
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| Miguel Carrasquer |
| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:09 pm |
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:15:44 -0400, "Liam"
<liam_deburca@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:95e3bd64f3](1) Is the Arabic name of the media outlet Al-Jazeera/Jazira
the same as the Syrian region Al-Jazira? (meaning "the lake"
in both cases)?
[/quote:95e3bd64f3]
jazi:rah (pl. jaza:?ir or juzur) means "island", cq.
"peninsula". The name is given to Arabia, NW Mespotamia,
Algiers (al-Jaza?ir) and Algeciras.
[quote:95e3bd64f3](2) Are the Slavic words for lake, e.g. Ru. ozero, Pl. jezioro, etc.
borrowed from Arabic?
[/quote:95e3bd64f3]
No, that's Balto-Slavic *ez^ero(m) "lake", cognate with e.g.
Armenian ezr "edge, shore", PIE < *h1eg^h-er-
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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| Liam |
| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:27 am |
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Yusuf B Gursey wrote in message ...
[quote:2e02bc7518]In sci.lang Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@wxs.nl> wrote in
9vg6709q0nned5vp59r3nuk7coan07i0v9@4ax.com>:
: On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:15:44 -0400, "Liam"
: <liam_deburca@yahoo.com> wrote:
:>(1) Is the Arabic name of the media outlet Al-Jazeera/Jazira
:>the same as the Syrian region Al-Jazira? (meaning "the lake"
both the Arabian peninsula and NW mesopotamia (hence the syrian province)
are knwon as al-jazi:ra(t)
:>in both cases)?
not lake.
: jazi:rah (pl. jaza:?ir or juzur) means "island", cq.
jazi:ra(t) . strictly "island" but it is used for any land substantially
surrounded by water (incl. rivers). more narrowly peninsula is *sh*ibhu
jazir:a(t) . MS arabic prefers the plural juzur .
: "peninsula". The name is given to Arabia, NW Mespotamia,
: Algiers (al-Jaza?ir) and Algeciras.
al-jaza:'ir "Algiers" refers to the islands in the harbor (AFAIK now
connected with landfill?)
[/quote:2e02bc7518]
Thanks very much to both Yusuf and Miguel.
I'm working through the Arabic alphabet in preparation for a course
I plan to take. . It's a fascinating language and a beautiful script.
Don't know why jazira reminded me of ozero. Maybe I should
take a geography course too. :-(
Liam |
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| Ruud Harmsen |
| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:35 am |
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Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:15:44 -0400: "Liam" <liam_deburca@yahoo.com>: in
sci.lang:
[quote:7a8af42a9e](1) Is the Arabic name of the media outlet Al-Jazeera/Jazira
the same as the Syrian region Al-Jazira? (meaning "the lake"
in both cases)?
[/quote:7a8af42a9e]
I suppose so. And so is the country and city name Algiers, and the
Spanish city Algeciras. What herons have to with this I may have once
known, but no longer do.
http://rudhar.com/etymolog/gaibeu.htm
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Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com/index/whatsnew.htm update 2 april 2004 |
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