Some of you questioned the sincerity of my first set of apologies. I
was quite hurt by your skepticism regarding my sincerity.

Still, I do humbly apologize for my antics on this forum.

I have been trying to quit one lascivious habit that usually occupied
my idle hands, but have only been able to substitute it with this,
equally destructive, habit of annoying people on this forum.

I shall seek to stop, but no promises.

On Jun 10, 11:57 am, Revivul <absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Some of you questioned the sincerity of my first set of apologies. I
was quite hurt by your skepticism regarding my sincerity.

Still, I do humbly apologize for my antics on this forum.

I have been trying to quit one lascivious habit that usually occupied
my idle hands, but have only been able to substitute it with this,
equally destructive, habit of annoying people on this forum.

I shall seek to stop, but no promises.


Whether you make promises or not doesn't make any difference -- your
promises are not worth the paper they are written on (or the
cyberspace they occupy).

Still want to be an ophthalmologist? Don't bother. You don't need a
medical degree or license to prescribe water or recommend Bates as
cures for all eye ailments.


Oh, please, Brainy.

On Jun 10, 11:57 am, Revivul <absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Some of you questioned the sincerity of my first set of apologies. I
was quite hurt by your skepticism regarding my sincerity.

Still, I do humbly apologize for my antics on this forum.

I have been trying to quit one lascivious habit that usually occupied
my idle hands, but have only been able to substitute it with this,
equally destructive, habit of annoying people on this forum.

I shall seek to stop, but no promises.


Whether you make promises or not doesn't make any difference -- your
promises are not worth the paper they are written on (or the
cyberspace they occupy).

Still want to be an ophthalmologist? Don't bother. You don't need a
medical degree or license to prescribe water or recommend Bates as
cures for all eye ailments.

Some of you questioned the sincerity of my first set of apologies. I
was quite hurt by your skepticism regarding my sincerity.

Still, I do humbly apologize for my antics on this forum.

I have been trying to quit one lascivious habit that usually occupied
my idle hands, but have only been able to substitute it with this,
equally destructive, habit of annoying people on this forum.

I shall seek to stop, but no promises.

Revivul

I see this is new poster with no previous posts.

absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com

Yet another fake from our friend in San Diego, I would
suggest -- playing his usual "head games".

On Jun 10, 2:57 pm, Revivul <absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Some of you questioned the sincerity of my first set of apologies. I
was quite hurt by your skepticism regarding my sincerity.

Still, I do humbly apologize for my antics on this forum.

I have been trying to quit one lascivious habit that usually occupied
my idle hands, but have only been able to substitute it with this,
equally destructive, habit of annoying people on this forum.

I shall seek to stop, but no promises.

Revivul

On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
I see this is new poster with no previous posts.

and the more I think about it the more I believe that you really were
NOT a trained practicing engineer. i know a few engineers and they
tend to be quite logical rational evidence-based thinkers

On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:





I see this is new poster with no previous posts.

absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com

Yet another fake from our friend in San Diego, I would
suggest -- playing his usual "head games".

On Jun 10, 2:57 pm, Revivul <absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Some of you questioned the sincerity of my first set of apologies. I
was quite hurt by your skepticism regarding my sincerity.

Still, I do humbly apologize for my antics on this forum.

I have been trying to quit one lascivious habit that usually occupied
my idle hands, but have only been able to substitute it with this,
equally destructive, habit of annoying people on this forum.

I shall seek to stop, but no promises.

Revivul

still ignoring direct questions that are seriously posted to you in
other threads but willing to add your useless $0.02 in another thread?

otis, can you explain why two statistically-controlled studies where
human subjects were intentionally overminused did NOT result in them
developing accelerated myopia (=staircase myopia) as you claim it
should? here are the references:

1. Goss, D. (1984) Overcorrection as a means of slowing myopic
progression.
Am J Optom Physiol Opt., Feb;61(2):85-93.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&...

2. Kushner BJ. Arch Ophthalmol. 1999 May;117(5):638-42.
Does overcorrecting minus lens therapy for intermittent exotropia
cause myopia?http://archopht.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/5/638

were these studies invalid according to the "Otis Engineer" criterion
of engineering-science research?

and the more I think about it the more I believe that you really were
NOT a trained practicing engineer. i know a few engineers and they
tend to be quite logical rational evidence-based thinkers and that
definitely is not what you are. where did you go to school and where
were you employed before you retired? did you retire or were you
fired? truly-- if you worked for me in the research group I
collaborate with I would dismiss you for total lack of objectivity and
total unfamiliarity with the subjects you claim to be knowledgeable
about.

and why do you keep running away and hiding?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In article <1181532896.732896.5...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

p.clar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
I see this is new poster with no previous posts.
and the more I think about it the more I believe that you really were
NOT a trained practicing engineer. i know a few engineers and they
tend to be quite logical rational evidence-based thinkers

My father was a quite logical rational evidence-based thinker for many
decades. Now he has senile dementia and must be closely supervised.

My point is that someone could be a competent professional in younger
days, but have major problems in some ways in later life.

Dear PClar,

Stick to the SUBJECT!

This issue was about a false poster.

Funny that you launch into your "mantra"

Otis

In article <1181532896.732896.5...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

p.clar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
I see this is new poster with no previous posts.
and the more I think about it the more I believe that you really were
NOT a trained practicing engineer. i know a few engineers and they
tend to be quite logical rational evidence-based thinkers

My father was a quite logical rational evidence-based thinker for many
decades. Now he has senile dementia and must be closely supervised.

My point is that someone could be a competent professional in younger
days, but have major problems in some ways in later life.

Oh, please, Brainy.
Even *you* should have seen that was a forgery...
Look at the email addy. You're lecturing Neil, is my guess.- Hide quoted text -

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Dear Dan,

Yes,

Dear PClar,

Stick to the SUBJECT!

This issue was about a false poster.

Funny that you launch into your "mantra"

Otis

On Jun 10, 11:34 pm, p.clar...@gmail.com wrote:

On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:

I see this is new poster with no previous posts.

absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com

Yet another fake from our friend in San Diego, I would
suggest -- playing his usual "head games".

On Jun 10, 2:57 pm, Revivul <absolutelyidio...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Some of you questioned the sincerity of my first set of apologies. I
was quite hurt by your skepticism regarding my sincerity.

Still, I do humbly apologize for my antics on this forum.

I have been trying to quit one lascivious habit that usually occupied
my idle hands, but have only been able to substitute it with this,
equally destructive, habit of annoying people on this forum.

I shall seek to stop, but no promises.

Revivul

still ignoring direct questions that are seriously posted to you in
other threads but willing to add your useless $0.02 in another thread?

otis, can you explain why two statistically-controlled studies where
human subjects were intentionally overminused did NOT result in them
developing accelerated myopia (=staircase myopia) as you claim it
should? here are the references:

1. Goss, D. (1984) Overcorrection as a means of slowing myopic
progression.
Am J Optom Physiol Opt., Feb;61(2):85-93.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&...

2. Kushner BJ. Arch Ophthalmol. 1999 May;117(5):638-42.
Does overcorrecting minus lens therapy for intermittent exotropia
cause myopia?http://archopht.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/5/638

were these studies invalid according to the "Otis Engineer" criterion
of engineering-science research?

and the more I think about it the more I believe that you really were
NOT a trained practicing engineer. i know a few engineers and they
tend to be quite logical rational evidence-based thinkers and that
definitely is not what you are. where did you go to school and where
were you employed before you retired? did you retire or were you
fired? truly-- if you worked for me in the research group I
collaborate with I would dismiss you for total lack of objectivity and
total unfamiliarity with the subjects you claim to be knowledgeable
about.

and why do you keep running away and hiding?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dear Dan,

Yes, and it is true that scientists like Dr. Colgate
are logical and reasonable about the application
of preventive methods.

http://www.geocities.com/otisbrown17268/AboutUs.txt

The fact of disagreement should cause us to
recognize the second-opinion and work with it -- not
deny that a negative refractive STATE can be
prevented, if the person has the motivation
and intelligence to do it RIGHT.

Just one man's opinion.

Otis

On Jun 10, 11:50 pm, Dan Abel <d...@sonic.net> wrote:

In article <1181532896.732896.5...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

p.clar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 10, 11:10 pm, "otisbr...@pa.net" <otisbr...@pa.net> wrote:
I see this is new poster with no previous posts.
and the more I think about it the more I believe that you really were
NOT a trained practicing engineer. i know a few engineers and they
tend to be quite logical rational evidence-based thinkers

My father was a quite logical rational evidence-based thinker for many
decades. Now he has senile dementia and must be closely supervised.

My point is that someone could be a competent professional in younger
days, but have major problems in some ways in later life.