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Guest
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:32 pm
Having met somebody who has a degree in this from the University of
Pittsburg, I wondered if there was a quick summary of the matter. All
the links that I can find on the Internet appear to suggest, as I
imagined from the name, that this is pure driven horseshit, but I hate
to come to conclusions without at least checking. References seem to
include links to mythology, post-modernism and Jung, so I'm not really
expecting to hear anything positive about the subject, but my mind is
open to any interesting articles or leads. The person I met was not a
very articulate expounder of the subject (which might be because the
subject doesn't lend itself to exposition), nor an immediately obvious
choice for anybody to make as a Clinical psychologist, but, again,
circumstances might have been misleading.

It was also suggested that the course was registered with the APA. Is
registration with the APA particularly straightforward or does a
faculty, rather than a course of study, end up being registered?

I wasn't particularly surprised to learn that this individual was
finding it difficult to transfer the qualifications to South Africa by
getting registered here as a Clinical Psychologist. I had rather hoped
that standards were higher in SA! Is there an academically respectable
registration process in South Africa?
Lance
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:30 am
Guest
On Feb 26, 4:32 am, Peter.H.M.Bro...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Having met somebody who has a degree in this from the University of
Pittsburg, I wondered if there was a quick summary of the matter. All
the links that I can find on the Internet appear to suggest, as I
imagined from the name, that this is pure driven horseshit, but I hate
to come to conclusions without at least checking. References seem to
include links to mythology, post-modernism and Jung, so I'm not really
expecting to hear anything positive about the subject, but my mind is
open to any interesting articles or leads. The person I met was not a
very articulate expounder of the subject (which might be because the
subject doesn't lend itself to exposition), nor an immediately obvious
choice for anybody to make as a Clinical psychologist, but, again,
circumstances might have been misleading.

It was also suggested that the course was registered with the APA. Is
registration with the APA particularly straightforward or does a
faculty, rather than a course of study, end up being registered?

I wasn't particularly surprised to learn that this individual was
finding it difficult to transfer the qualifications to South Africa by
getting registered here as a Clinical Psychologist. I had rather hoped
that standards were higher in SA! Is there an academically respectable
registration process in South Africa?

Registration as a psychologist in South Africa requires meeting the
standards laid down by the Health Professionals Council. That includes
training in diagnostic systems, a variety of approaches to therapy,
psychopathology, neuropsychology, psychometrics, psychopharmocology,
child psychopathology, educational psychology, etc. Also psychologists
have to write a dissertation, have a years internship in a psychiatric
hospital and a further year working under supervsion (called community
service).

Lance
Guest
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:40 am
On Feb 26, 9:25 am, "Lance" <LanceG...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 26, 4:32 am, Peter.H.M.Bro...@gmail.com wrote:



Having met somebody who has a degree in this from the University of
Pittsburg, I wondered if there was a quick summary of the matter. All
the links that I can find on the Internet appear to suggest, as I
imagined from the name, that this is pure driven horseshit, but I hate
to come to conclusions without at least checking. References seem to
include links to mythology, post-modernism and Jung, so I'm not really
expecting to hear anything positive about the subject, but my mind is
open to any interesting articles or leads. The person I met was not a
very articulate expounder of the subject (which might be because the
subject doesn't lend itself to exposition), nor an immediately obvious
choice for anybody to make as a Clinical psychologist, but, again,
circumstances might have been misleading.

It was also suggested that the course was registered with the APA. Is
registration with the APA particularly straightforward or does a
faculty, rather than a course of study, end up being registered?

I wasn't particularly surprised to learn that this individual was
finding it difficult to transfer the qualifications to South Africa by
getting registered here as a Clinical Psychologist. I had rather hoped
that standards were higher in SA! Is there an academically respectable
registration process in South Africa?

I guess you mean Duquesne University in Pittsburg. They are famous for
their series of books called Duquesne Studies in Phenomenological
Psychology.

There are different meanings of Phenomenological Psychology. The most
rigorous is the attempt to apply Husserl's philosophy to real world
investigations. Below is an abstract of an article written by Amedeo
Giorgi, who has visited South Africa several times. Rhodes University,
under Dreyer Kruger, used to teach this kind of rigorous
phenomenology. Looser versions of phenomenolical psychology exist,
where it just refers to a preference for qualitative methods and a
dislike of the "scientific" approach to psychology.

Thank you very much for that excellently concise and clear

explanation!

I'm not sure if it was Duquesne University, but I'm sure you're right.
I rather suspect that I've stumbled on one of the 'looser', as you put
it, practitioners.

Presumably it would be possible for a rigerous approach to this to
actually be evaluated using evidence based medicine methods to
establish whether the alternative approach produces adequate results
in the light of the conventional view. I wonder if anybody has done
that - I can see why nobody would, those on the phenomenological side
wouldn't wish to be sullied with the standard method and vica versa.
Dave Smith
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:21 pm
Guest
On 26 Feb, 12:40, Peter.H.M.Bro...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:

Thank you very much for that excellently concise and clear
explanation!

I'm not sure if it was Duquesne University, but I'm sure you're right.
I rather suspect that I've stumbled on one of the 'looser', as you put
it, practitioners.

Presumably it would be possible for a rigerous approach to this to
actually be evaluated using evidence based medicine methods to
establish whether the alternative approach produces adequate results
in the light of the conventional view. I wonder if anybody has done
that - I can see why nobody would, those on the phenomenological side
wouldn't wish to be sullied with the standard method and vica versa.

Perhaps you are more sympathetically inclined toward phenomenological
existentialism? :>)

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/phenandexist.html

"Phenomenology is a research technique that involves the careful
description of aspects of human life as they are lived;
Existentialism, deriving its insights from phenomenology, is the
philosophical attitude that views human life from the inside rather
than pretending to understand it from an outside, "objective" point-of-
view. Phenomenological existentialism, as a philosophy or a
psychology, is not a tightly defined system by any means. And yet its
adherents are relatively easily identified by their emphasis on the
importance of individuals and their freedom to participate in their
own creation. It is a psychology that emphasizes our creative
processes far more than our adherence to laws, be they human, natural,
or divine."


I take as evidence:

"Life is like an X
X is what you will
but what you will your X
to be will make your life
as full or as empty as you will
X will be your life "
 
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