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Rich Travsky
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:40 am
Guest
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070322142633.htm

Early humans developed larger brains as they adapted to colder climates, according
to University at Albany researchers.

The study, to be published by Jessica Ash, a graduate student in psychology, and
professor of evolutionary psychology Gordon G. Gallup Jr. in the spring edition of
Human Nature (Vol. 18, Issue 2, 2007: Transaction Publishers), suggests that human
cranial capacity as an indicator of brain size grew dramatically during our
evolution, and that variations in global temperature as well as progressive shifts
toward global cooling account for as much as 50 percent of the variation in cranial
capacity. The research utilized several measures of paleotemperatures and a sample
of 109 fossilized hominid skulls collected over the past 2 million years.

In addition to the impact of global cooling, "By paying close attention to the
geographic origin of each of the fossilized skulls," said Gallup, "it became clear
that seasonal variation in climate may also have been an important selective force
behind the evolution of human cranial capacity. Specifically, we found that as the
distance from the equator increased, north or south, so did brain size."

The authors suggest that a key environmental trigger to the evolution of larger
brains was the need to devise ways to keep warm and manage the fluctuations in food
availability that resulted from cold weather.

In species other than humans, problems posed by cooler climates were solved by
adaptations such as hibernation and migration, and by metabolic adaptations including
fur and the development of fat deposits. During human evolution, however, the
authors
surmise that solutions to the problems of cold weather and a scarce food supply
featured detailed and progressively more refined cognitive and intellectual
strategies,
such as the development of cooperative hunting techniques and more sophisticated
tools
and weapons. Increased brain capacity also brought with it the use of fire as a means
to keep warm and cook, adaptations in clothing and shelter, and the development of
more
refined social skills.
....
rmacfarl
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:40 pm
Guest
On Mar 27, 12:40 am, Rich Travsky <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
Quote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070322142633.htm

Early humans developed larger brains as they adapted to colder climates, according
to University at Albany researchers.

The study, to be published by Jessica Ash, a graduate student in psychology, and
professor of evolutionary psychology Gordon G. Gallup Jr. in the spring edition of
Human Nature (Vol. 18, Issue 2, 2007: Transaction Publishers), suggests that human
cranial capacity as an indicator of brain size grew dramatically during our
evolution, and that variations in global temperature as well as progressive shifts
toward global cooling account for as much as 50 percent of the variation in cranial
capacity. The research utilized several measures of paleotemperatures and a sample
of 109 fossilized hominid skulls collected over the past 2 million years.

In addition to the impact of global cooling, "By paying close attention to the
geographic origin of each of the fossilized skulls," said Gallup, "it became clear
that seasonal variation in climate may also have been an important selective force
behind the evolution of human cranial capacity. Specifically, we found that as the
distance from the equator increased, north or south, so did brain size."

The authors suggest that a key environmental trigger to the evolution of larger
brains was the need to devise ways to keep warm and manage the fluctuations in food
availability that resulted from cold weather.

In species other than humans, problems posed by cooler climates were solved by
adaptations such as hibernation and migration, and by metabolic adaptations including
fur and the development of fat deposits. During human evolution, however, the
authors
surmise that solutions to the problems of cold weather and a scarce food supply
featured detailed and progressively more refined cognitive and intellectual
strategies,
such as the development of cooperative hunting techniques and more sophisticated
tools
and weapons. Increased brain capacity also brought with it the use of fire as a means
to keep warm and cook, adaptations in clothing and shelter, and the development of
more
refined social skills.
...

I'm very suspicious of the speculations they attach to the brain size
increase suggesting it was "needed". It's at least equally likely to
have been an artifact of scaling - i.e. that the humans became larger
to retain heat better, & hence also had larger brains. That's if the
size increase happened at all, & wasn't just a misreading of available
data by the researchers, which happens all the time...

Ross Macfarlane
Paul Crowley
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:50 am
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"rmacfarl" <rmacfarl@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:1174948825.181453.22580@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Quote:
On Mar 27, 12:40 am, Rich Travsky <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070322142633.htm

Early humans developed larger brains as they adapted to colder climates, according
to University at Albany researchers.

The study, to be published by Jessica Ash, a graduate student in psychology, and
professor of evolutionary psychology Gordon G. Gallup Jr. in the spring edition of
Human Nature (Vol. 18, Issue 2, 2007: Transaction Publishers), suggests that human
cranial capacity as an indicator of brain size grew dramatically during our
evolution, and that variations in global temperature as well as progressive shifts
toward global cooling account for as much as 50 percent of the variation in cranial
capacity. The research utilized several measures of paleotemperatures and a sample
of 109 fossilized hominid skulls collected over the past 2 million years.

In addition to the impact of global cooling, "By paying close attention to the
geographic origin of each of the fossilized skulls," said Gallup, "it became clear
that seasonal variation in climate may also have been an important selective force
behind the evolution of human cranial capacity. Specifically, we found that as the
distance from the equator increased, north or south, so did brain size."

The authors suggest that a key environmental trigger to the evolution of larger
brains was the need to devise ways to keep warm and manage the fluctuations in food
availability that resulted from cold weather.

In species other than humans, problems posed by cooler climates were solved by
adaptations such as hibernation and migration, and by metabolic adaptations including
fur and the development of fat deposits. During human evolution, however, the
authors
surmise that solutions to the problems of cold weather and a scarce food supply
featured detailed and progressively more refined cognitive and intellectual
strategies,
such as the development of cooperative hunting techniques and more sophisticated
tools
and weapons. Increased brain capacity also brought with it the use of fire as a means
to keep warm and cook, adaptations in clothing and shelter, and the development of
more
refined social skills.
...

I'm very suspicious of the speculations they attach to the brain size
increase suggesting it was "needed". It's at least equally likely to
have been an artifact of scaling - i.e. that the humans became larger
to retain heat better, & hence also had larger brains. That's if the
size increase happened at all, & wasn't just a misreading of available
data by the researchers, which happens all the time...

Ross Macfarlane

Mario's speculations about cliff-face-living
hominids (with constant immersion in the
sea for infants under about three) make
about as much sense.

The only difference is that he does not get
published. He should first acquire a degree
in Psychology -- then he could publish any
old crap.


Paul.
richard01
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:35 am
Guest
On Mar 27, 6:50 pm, "Paul Crowley"
<slkwuoiutiuytciu...@slkjlskjoioue.com> wrote:
Quote:
"rmacfarl" <rmacf...@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message

news:1174948825.181453.22580@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...





On Mar 27, 12:40 am, Rich Travsky <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070322142633.htm

Early humans developed larger brains as they adapted to colder climates, according
to University at Albany researchers.

The study, to be published by Jessica Ash, a graduate student in psychology, and
professor of evolutionary psychology Gordon G. Gallup Jr. in the spring edition of
Human Nature (Vol. 18, Issue 2, 2007: Transaction Publishers), suggests that human
cranial capacity as an indicator of brain size grew dramatically during our
evolution, and that variations in global temperature as well as progressive shifts
toward global cooling account for as much as 50 percent of the variation in cranial
capacity. The research utilized several measures of paleotemperatures and a sample
of 109 fossilized hominid skulls collected over the past 2 million years.

In addition to the impact of global cooling, "By paying close attention to the
geographic origin of each of the fossilized skulls," said Gallup, "it became clear
that seasonal variation in climate may also have been an important selective force
behind the evolution of human cranial capacity. Specifically, we found that as the
distance from the equator increased, north or south, so did brain size."

The authors suggest that a key environmental trigger to the evolution of larger
brains was the need to devise ways to keep warm and manage the fluctuations in food
availability that resulted from cold weather.

In species other than humans, problems posed by cooler climates were solved by
adaptations such as hibernation and migration, and by metabolic adaptations including
fur and the development of fat deposits. During human evolution, however, the
authors
surmise that solutions to the problems of cold weather and a scarce food supply
featured detailed and progressively more refined cognitive and intellectual
strategies,
such as the development of cooperative hunting techniques and more sophisticated
tools
and weapons. Increased brain capacity also brought with it the use of fire as a means
to keep warm and cook, adaptations in clothing and shelter, and the development of
more
refined social skills.
...

I'm very suspicious of the speculations they attach to the brain size
increase suggesting it was "needed". It's at least equally likely to
have been an artifact of scaling - i.e. that the humans became larger
to retain heat better, & hence also had larger brains. That's if the
size increase happened at all, & wasn't just a misreading of available
data by the researchers, which happens all the time...

Ross Macfarlane

Mario's speculations about cliff-face-living
hominids (with constant immersion in the
sea for infants under about three) make
about as much sense.

The only difference is that he does not get
published. He should first acquire a degree
in Psychology -- then he could publish any
old crap.

Paul.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Gallup's other published papers include:

Contagious yawning and the brain

Self-face recognition is affected by schizotypal personality traits

Where am I? The neurological correlates of self and other

Tonic immobility in chickens: possible involvement of monoamines.


He is also noted in Google Scholar as having a citation already for a
paper that has not yet been published. I think this due to his book
review of :
David C. Geary, The Origin of Mind.at:
http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/ep04426431.pdf
which he used to argue for his own ideas, and promote them and his
forthcoming paper.

If you got to the Human Nature website, you'll find that much, if not
most of its content is book reviews.

I don't think I'd place a lot of confidence in his views on human
brain evolution.

regards

Richard
Mario Petrinovich
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:40 am
Guest
Paul Crowley:
Quote:
rmacfarl:
Rich Travsky:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070322142633.htm

Early humans developed larger brains as they adapted to colder climates,
according to University at Albany researchers.

The study, to be published by Jessica Ash, a graduate student in
psychology, and
professor of evolutionary psychology Gordon G. Gallup Jr. in the spring
edition of
Human Nature (Vol. 18, Issue 2, 2007: Transaction Publishers), suggests
that human
cranial capacity as an indicator of brain size grew dramatically during
our
evolution, and that variations in global temperature as well as
progressive shifts
toward global cooling account for as much as 50 percent of the variation
in cranial
capacity. The research utilized several measures of paleotemperatures
and a sample
of 109 fossilized hominid skulls collected over the past 2 million
years.

In addition to the impact of global cooling, "By paying close attention
to the
geographic origin of each of the fossilized skulls," said Gallup, "it
became clear
that seasonal variation in climate may also have been an important
selective force
behind the evolution of human cranial capacity. Specifically, we found
that as the
distance from the equator increased, north or south, so did brain size."

The authors suggest that a key environmental trigger to the evolution of
larger
brains was the need to devise ways to keep warm and manage the
fluctuations in food availability that resulted from cold weather.

In species other than humans, problems posed by cooler climates were
solved by
adaptations such as hibernation and migration, and by metabolic
adaptations including
fur and the development of fat deposits. During human evolution,
however, the authors
surmise that solutions to the problems of cold weather and a scarce food
supply
featured detailed and progressively more refined cognitive and
intellectual strategies,
such as the development of cooperative hunting techniques and more
sophisticated tools
and weapons. Increased brain capacity also brought with it the use of
fire as a means
to keep warm and cook, adaptations in clothing and shelter, and the
development of more refined social skills.
...

I'm very suspicious of the speculations they attach to the brain size
increase suggesting it was "needed". It's at least equally likely to
have been an artifact of scaling - i.e. that the humans became larger
to retain heat better, & hence also had larger brains. That's if the
size increase happened at all, & wasn't just a misreading of available
data by the researchers, which happens all the time...

Mario's speculations about cliff-face-living
hominids (with constant immersion in the
sea for infants under about three) make
about as much sense.

The only difference is that he does not get
published. He should first acquire a degree
in Psychology -- then he could publish any
old crap. Paul.

Well, look at that, I am also the one who claims that our brain
enlarged when we came to live in colder conditions. And I am claiming this
for a long time, now. You want evidence for this? Well, read above article.
I couldn't peform that research, because whole day I am performing the
pulling of trains.
The only thing is that this article is the same old byblical stuff,
again. No, we are not intelligent animals. We are just talking a lot, and
this way (by the way of talking) we manage to do things. Other than that, we
are stupid as hell (which "discussions" in this forum clearly show). But our
brain enlarged solely for the purpose of thermoregulation in colder
climates. And that's all. We hade the use of fire, stone tool making, and
language, all before our brain increased. Social skills we never had, as we
don't have them today, which is plainly seen, : ))) (whoever doubts, let him
spend few minutes with Al Qaeda throat cutters). -- Mario
Guest
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:01 pm
On Mar 26, 3:40 pm, "rmacfarl" <rmacf...@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
On Mar 27, 12:40 am, Rich Travsky <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:





http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070322142633.htm

Early humans developed larger brains as they adapted to colder climates, according
to University at Albany researchers.

The study, to be published by Jessica Ash, a graduate student in psychology, and
professor of evolutionary psychology Gordon G. Gallup Jr. in the spring edition of
Human Nature (Vol. 18, Issue 2, 2007: Transaction Publishers), suggests that human
cranial capacity as an indicator of brain size grew dramatically during our
evolution, and that variations in global temperature as well as progressive shifts
toward global cooling account for as much as 50 percent of the variation in cranial
capacity. The research utilized several measures of paleotemperatures and a sample
of 109 fossilized hominid skulls collected over the past 2 million years.

In addition to the impact of global cooling, "By paying close attention to the
geographic origin of each of the fossilized skulls," said Gallup, "it became clear
that seasonal variation in climate may also have been an important selective force
behind the evolution of human cranial capacity. Specifically, we found that as the
distance from the equator increased, north or south, so did brain size."

The authors suggest that a key environmental trigger to the evolution of larger
brains was the need to devise ways to keep warm and manage the fluctuations in food
availability that resulted from cold weather.

In species other than humans, problems posed by cooler climates were solved by
adaptations such as hibernation and migration, and by metabolic adaptations including
fur and the development of fat deposits. During human evolution, however, the
authors
surmise that solutions to the problems of cold weather and a scarce food supply
featured detailed and progressively more refined cognitive and intellectual
strategies,
such as the development of cooperative hunting techniques and more sophisticated
tools
and weapons. Increased brain capacity also brought with it the use of fire as a means
to keep warm and cook, adaptations in clothing and shelter, and the development of
more
refined social skills.
...

I'm very suspicious of the speculations they attach to the brain size
increase suggesting it was "needed". It's at least equally likely to
have been an artifact of scaling - i.e. that the humans became larger
to retain heat better,

You can't possibly be serious. Human intellect a heating device?

Ross, you seem to have a talent for revealing your stupidity.


& hence also had larger brains. That's if the
Quote:
size increase happened at all, & wasn't just a misreading of available
data by the researchers, which happens all the time...

Misreading of data? What are you blabbing about?

Obvious human evolution was a process in which human intellect was
greatly rewarded (yourself being one exception).
Guest
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:05 pm
On Mar 27, 7:40 am, "Mario Petrinovich"
<mario.petrinov...@zg.htnet.hr> wrote:
Quote:
Paul Crowley:





rmacfarl:
Rich Travsky:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070322142633.htm

Early humans developed larger brains as they adapted to colder climates,
according to University at Albany researchers.

The study, to be published by Jessica Ash, a graduate student in
psychology, and
professor of evolutionary psychology Gordon G. Gallup Jr. in the spring
edition of
Human Nature (Vol. 18, Issue 2, 2007: Transaction Publishers), suggests
that human
cranial capacity as an indicator of brain size grew dramatically during
our
evolution, and that variations in global temperature as well as
progressive shifts
toward global cooling account for as much as 50 percent of the variation
in cranial
capacity. The research utilized several measures of paleotemperatures
and a sample
of 109 fossilized hominid skulls collected over the past 2 million
years.

In addition to the impact of global cooling, "By paying close attention
to the
geographic origin of each of the fossilized skulls," said Gallup, "it
became clear
that seasonal variation in climate may also have been an important
selective force
behind the evolution of human cranial capacity. Specifically, we found
that as the
distance from the equator increased, north or south, so did brain size."

The authors suggest that a key environmental trigger to the evolution of
larger
brains was the need to devise ways to keep warm and manage the
fluctuations in food availability that resulted from cold weather.

In species other than humans, problems posed by cooler climates were
solved by
adaptations such as hibernation and migration, and by metabolic
adaptations including
fur and the development of fat deposits. During human evolution,
however, the authors
surmise that solutions to the problems of cold weather and a scarce food
supply
featured detailed and progressively more refined cognitive and
intellectual strategies,
such as the development of cooperative hunting techniques and more
sophisticated tools
and weapons. Increased brain capacity also brought with it the use of
fire as a means
to keep warm and cook, adaptations in clothing and shelter, and the
development of more refined social skills.
...

I'm very suspicious of the speculations they attach to the brain size
increase suggesting it was "needed". It's at least equally likely to
have been an artifact of scaling - i.e. that the humans became larger
to retain heat better, & hence also had larger brains. That's if the
size increase happened at all, & wasn't just a misreading of available
data by the researchers, which happens all the time...

Mario's speculations about cliff-face-living
hominids (with constant immersion in the
sea for infants under about three) make
about as much sense.

The only difference is that he does not get
published. He should first acquire a degree
in Psychology -- then he could publish any
old crap. Paul.

Well, look at that, I am also the one who claims that our brain
enlarged when we came to live in colder conditions.

It's a nonsensical proposition unless you can describe why the same
didn't happen to the other species that lived alongside hominids in
these colder climates.
Mario Petrinovich
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:06 am
Guest
<claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net>:
Quote:
Well, look at that, I am also the one who claims that our brain
enlarged when we came to live in colder conditions.

It's a nonsensical proposition unless you can describe why the same
didn't happen to the other species that lived alongside hominids in
these colder climates.

Well, other animals also, when they move to colder climate, adapt to
that colder climate. But, we are in a specific situation. If you find
somewhere info about heat loss in humans, you'll find out that we don't lose
our heat through our body, but mainly through our head. How come? Well, if
AAT is true, this isn't a surprise. Because when you are in water, your head
is outside, and your body is immersed in water. If we didn't have an
insulation of body, heat would be drained out of us. But for head we didn't
need so big insulation, because head isn't in water. Hence, we lose heat
through our head. But hey, we can put our head out in the cold, our nose can
freeze, our ears can freeze, our face can freeze, but our brain musn't
freeze, outherwise we will stop functioning. And brain has fat, anyway. So,
why don't put a little bit more fat? It is the easiest way. Also, IIRC the
bones of skull became thicker (but I am not sure at the moment). -- Mario
Mario Petrinovich
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:08 am
Guest
<claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net>:
Quote:
Obvious human evolution was a process in which human intellect was
greatly rewarded (yourself being one exception).

Lol, you must be kidding. -- Mario
Guest
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:07 pm
On Mar 28, 2:06 am, "Mario Petrinovich"
<mario.petrinov...@zg.htnet.hr> wrote:
Quote:
claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net>:

Well, look at that, I am also the one who claims that our brain
enlarged when we came to live in colder conditions.

It's a nonsensical proposition unless you can describe why the same
didn't happen to the other species that lived alongside hominids in
these colder climates.

Well, other animals also, when they move to colder climate, adapt to
that colder climate. But, we are in a specific situation.

Who is, "we" and when did they live? and what are the "specifics."
Delineate these specifics so that people don't think you are talking
out your ass.


If you find
Quote:
somewhere info about heat loss in humans, you'll find out that we don't lose
our heat through our body, but mainly through our head.

Other animals don't have heads?

How come? Well, if
Quote:
AAT is true, this isn't a surprise. Because when you are in water, your head
is outside, and your body is immersed in water. If we didn't have an
insulation of body, heat would be drained out of us. But for head we didn't
need so big insulation, because head isn't in water. Hence, we lose heat
through our head. But hey, we can put our head out in the cold, our nose can
freeze, our ears can freeze, our face can freeze, but our brain musn't
freeze, outherwise we will stop functioning. And brain has fat, anyway. So,
why don't put a little bit more fat? It is the easiest way. Also, IIRC the
bones of skull became thicker (but I am not sure at the moment). -- Mario

This is perfectly retarded.
Mario Petrinovich
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:25 pm
Guest
<claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net>:
Quote:
Mario Petrinovich:
claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net>:

Well, look at that, I am also the one who claims that our
brain
enlarged when we came to live in colder conditions.

It's a nonsensical proposition unless you can describe why the same
didn't happen to the other species that lived alongside hominids in
these colder climates.

Well, other animals also, when they move to colder climate, adapt
to that colder climate. But, we are in a specific situation.

Who is, "we" and when did they live?

Whoever has big brain. If you don't have it, you are excluded.

Quote:
and what are the "specifics."
Delineate these specifics so that people don't think you are talking
out your ass.

If you find
somewhere info about heat loss in humans, you'll find out that we don't
lose our heat through our body, but mainly through our head.

Other animals don't have heads?

I don't know about other animals.

Quote:
How come? Well, if
AAT is true, this isn't a surprise. Because when you are in water, your
head
is outside, and your body is immersed in water. If we didn't have an
insulation of body, heat would be drained out of us. But for head we
didn't
need so big insulation, because head isn't in water. Hence, we lose heat
through our head. But hey, we can put our head out in the cold, our nose
can
freeze, our ears can freeze, our face can freeze, but our brain musn't
freeze, outherwise we will stop functioning. And brain has fat, anyway.
So,
why don't put a little bit more fat? It is the easiest way. Also, IIRC
the bones of skull became thicker (but I am not sure at the moment).

This is perfectly retarded.

Hey retard, you forgot to delineate these "retardants", so that
people don't think you are talking out of your ass. -- Mario
Mario Petrinovich
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:39 pm
Guest
Mario Petrinovich:
Quote:
claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net>:
This is perfectly retarded.

Hey retard, you forgot to delineate these "retardants", so that
people don't think you are talking out of your ass. -- Mario

I mean, you IDIOT, I PREDICTED that human brain grew in correlation
to the climate. You IMBECILE. -- Mario
 
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