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0tterbot
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:55 am
Guest
the story so far:

i have a broody chook and my neighbour risked life and limb to get me two
fertile (we hope!!) eggs from under one of her broodies (an angry one Wink.
they are due to hatch some time in the next few days but we don't know the
day. when we got the eggs they'd been sat on for "about" two weeks already,
& my broody was only sitting herself for one of those weeks, so she might
get a surprise ;-)

i'll be getting some chick mix for the babies to eat (although i rather
expect the others will get into it as well, but anyway) however, i need a
chick-waterer as my other waterers are 3 litre milk bottles with a hole cut
out near the top for access. however, a tiny chick wouldn't be able to reach
the water.

for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it? should i
put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily even if i put it
out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea than a dish with stones?
i'd like one of those noice and rather glamorous waterers, but i don't have
$70 lately :-)

and should i put the dish (or whatever) out now, or wait until they're born?
i expect it will be made a mess of by the other hens, so maybe save it till
there are babies & avoid some pointless washing-out(?) i'm in there a few
times a day, so i'll know when the babies hatch.

i can't think of anything else i would need to do to prepare for little
chicks, but if anyone else has advice, let me know!!!! we are very excited,
but trying not to hope too hard in case something's gone wrong somewhere &
there aren't any chicks.
thanks!
kylie
Jill
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:33 am
Guest
0tterbot wrote:
Quote:

for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it?
should i put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily
even if i put it out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea
than a dish with stones? i'd like one of those noice and rather
glamorous waterers, but i don't have $70 lately Smile

blimey -- our chick drinkers are £2.55 [about 6.25 AUD]

hmm having just had a google for mail order equipment in Australia - I
wonder what the shipping charges would be? <grin>
I did find http://www.wapoultryequipment.com/WAPE/Catalogue.htm who have
RB1L Drinker Plastic red base 1 Lt at $7.00



Quote:

and should i put the dish (or whatever) out now, or wait until
they're born?

Wait till they are hatched.
Mum will sit on them for at least a day after hatching and they don't need
anything for another day. When Mum brings them off the nest and starts
exploring "then" you can give her and them chicky supplies.

Can you give Mum and babies somewhere to be in peace for a few days. I
forget - are your birds protected from overhead predators anyway
Lots of birds LUV chicks for appetizers ;(



--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
Ginny
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:39 pm
Guest
Jill wrote:
Quote:
0tterbot wrote:
for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it?
should i put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily
even if i put it out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea
than a dish with stones? i'd like one of those noice and rather
glamorous waterers, but i don't have $70 lately :-)

blimey -- our chick drinkers are £2.55 [about 6.25 AUD]

hmm having just had a google for mail order equipment in Australia - I
wonder what the shipping charges would be? <grin
I did find http://www.wapoultryequipment.com/WAPE/Catalogue.htm who have
RB1L Drinker Plastic red base 1 Lt at $7.00

I use either a shallow terracotta dish that would normally go under a

large pot plant(12"+ in diameter -$5-10 @ bunnings) or I buy a plastic
one that screws onto a 2lt soft drink bottle available from Red Dot or a
pet supplier, usually a couple of dollars. The terracotta is good as
they can't tip it over when the chicks stand on the side, even when
empty and they last many years but the other is better in hot weather as
it holds 2lt reservoir and the tray is shallow enough for none to drown.
All my chicks like to walk in the water when the weather is hot so I
only use rocks or pebbles in a deeper dish or the standard automatic
waterer in the yard. Be aware that adding gravel, rocks or pebbles
reduces the amount of available water overall.
Quote:


and should i put the dish (or whatever) out now, or wait until
they're born?

Wait till they are hatched.
Mum will sit on them for at least a day after hatching and they don't need
anything for another day. When Mum brings them off the nest and starts
exploring "then" you can give her and them chicky supplies.

Can you give Mum and babies somewhere to be in peace for a few days. I
forget - are your birds protected from overhead predators anyway
Lots of birds LUV chicks for appetizers ;(


How true. We have a wedgetail eagle eyeing off my GF keets at present

but the dogs are keeping him at bay so far.

--
Ginny - in West Australia

verba volant, scripta manent
"words fly away, writings remain"
Jill
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:12 am
Guest
Ginny wrote:
Quote:
All my chicks like to walk in the water when the
weather is hot so I only use rocks or pebbles in a deeper dish or the
standard automatic waterer in the yard. Be aware that adding gravel,
rocks or pebbles reduces the amount of available water overall.

Yes - its a good system and for ducklings too


--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
FarmI
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:18 am
Guest
"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

Quote:
I use either a shallow terracotta dish that would normally go under a
large pot plant(12"+ in diameter -$5-10 @ bunnings) or I buy a plastic one
that screws onto a 2lt soft drink bottle available from Red Dot or a pet
supplier, usually a couple of dollars. The terracotta is good as they
can't tip it over when the chicks stand on the side, even when empty and
they last many years but the other is better in hot weather as it holds
2lt reservoir and the tray is shallow enough for none to drown. All my
chicks like to walk in the water when the weather is hot so I only use
rocks or pebbles in a deeper dish or the standard automatic waterer in the
yard. Be aware that adding gravel, rocks or pebbles reduces the amount of
available water overall.

But this would work if Kylie used a big terracotta saucer and put an old
plastic milk carton full of water in the saucer with a hole just below the
water line and stones around the carton. As the water level drops and
exposes the hole it will dribble out and refilll the saucer.
FarmI
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:26 am
Guest
"0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote in message

Quote:
for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it? should i
put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily even if i put it
out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea than a dish with
stones? i'd like one of those noice and rather glamorous waterers, but i
don't have $70 lately Smile

Check out this site Kylie, I've found them to be a good source:
http://www.bellsouth.com.au/
Jill
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:16 am
Guest
FarmI wrote:
Quote:
"0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote in message

for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it?
should i put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily
even if i put it out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea
than a dish with stones? i'd like one of those noice and rather
glamorous waterers, but i don't have $70 lately :-)

Check out this site Kylie, I've found them to be a good source:
http://www.bellsouth.com.au/

I was looking for that site but it didnot come up in my google search
weird!


--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
0tterbot
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:43 pm
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"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45fd1559$0$8721$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
Quote:
0tterbot wrote:

for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it?
should i put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily
even if i put it out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea
than a dish with stones? i'd like one of those noice and rather
glamorous waterers, but i don't have $70 lately :-)

blimey -- our chick drinkers are £2.55 [about 6.25 AUD]

sorry - i meant that the rather swanky drinker at our local ag shop that i
would like is $70. nothing to do with chicks!! (although chicks would be
fine with it too).

Quote:
Wait till they are hatched.
Mum will sit on them for at least a day after hatching and they don't need
anything for another day. When Mum brings them off the nest and starts
exploring "then" you can give her and them chicky supplies.

thanks. dh has decided only one of the eggs has a live baby within. (then he
mentioned he has no idea why he thinks that ;-)

Quote:
Can you give Mum and babies somewhere to be in peace for a few days. I
forget - are your birds protected from overhead predators anyway
Lots of birds LUV chicks for appetizers ;(

the netting is predator-proof & they can't be swooped. (parrots come in
through the sides, though.. sigh!!)

thanks!
kylie
0tterbot
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:44 pm
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"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
news:45fe638e$0$17541$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
Quote:
"Ginny" <glvl88REMOVETHIS@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

I use either a shallow terracotta dish that would normally go under a
large pot plant(12"+ in diameter -$5-10 @ bunnings) or I buy a plastic
one that screws onto a 2lt soft drink bottle available from Red Dot or a
pet supplier, usually a couple of dollars. The terracotta is good as they
can't tip it over when the chicks stand on the side, even when empty and
they last many years but the other is better in hot weather as it holds
2lt reservoir and the tray is shallow enough for none to drown. All my
chicks like to walk in the water when the weather is hot so I only use
rocks or pebbles in a deeper dish or the standard automatic waterer in
the yard. Be aware that adding gravel, rocks or pebbles reduces the
amount of available water overall.

But this would work if Kylie used a big terracotta saucer and put an old
plastic milk carton full of water in the saucer with a hole just below the
water line and stones around the carton. As the water level drops and
exposes the hole it will dribble out and refilll the saucer.

that's a great idea!!!
thanks Smile
kylie
0tterbot
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:45 pm
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"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
news:45fe6563$0$17586$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
Quote:
"0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote in message

for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it? should
i put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily even if i put
it out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea than a dish with
stones? i'd like one of those noice and rather glamorous waterers, but i
don't have $70 lately :-)

Check out this site Kylie, I've found them to be a good source:
http://www.bellsouth.com.au/

thanks! i have bookmarked them for later thorough inspection.
kylie
FarmI
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:23 pm
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"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
Quote:
FarmI wrote:
"0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote in message

for the chicks, should i set up a shallow dish with stones in it?
should i put it near their nesting box, or will it be found easily
even if i put it out of everyone's way a bit? is there a better idea
than a dish with stones? i'd like one of those noice and rather
glamorous waterers, but i don't have $70 lately :-)

Check out this site Kylie, I've found them to be a good source:
http://www.bellsouth.com.au/

I was looking for that site but it didnot come up in my google search
weird!

I just entered "Bellsouth" and hit the "pages from Australia" button on
google and it was the first 2 sites to show up (but I was using the
Australian google site).

I find google a pain sometimes. If I want to search for something that I
know is UK specific, I go off to find google UK (so I can select "pages from
the UK") rather than do a general web searcg as otherwise it puts so many
things too many pages back. I often use Vivisimo instead these days as
google gives me the pips too often.
Chris Underwood
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:12 pm
Guest
"0tterbot" wrote
Quote:
i'll be getting some chick mix for the babies to eat (although i rather
expect the others will get into it as well,


Kylie - I have an old cage that I set up to "creep feed" baby chicks when I
have them. The bars are far enough apart that the chicks can go between
them when they are small, I hook the door open a couple of inches as they
get bigger. Inside the cage is chick food and water. The mature chickens
can't get inside so it is a safe place for the chicks to go where there is
always food and water just for them. I'm not sure where the term "creep
feed" came from - think I first heard it when I had baby lambs. Anyway, it
has worked well for me over the few years I've had chickens and chicks.

--
-:¦:-
·.·´¨ ¨))
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
..·´ Chris
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸
·.·
0tterbot
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:31 am
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"Chris Underwood" <bonnybrookfarm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:raJLh.10201$el3.8284@trndny01...
Quote:
"0tterbot" wrote
i'll be getting some chick mix for the babies to eat (although i rather
expect the others will get into it as well,


Kylie - I have an old cage that I set up to "creep feed" baby chicks when
I have them. The bars are far enough apart that the chicks can go between
them when they are small, I hook the door open a couple of inches as they
get bigger. Inside the cage is chick food and water. The mature chickens
can't get inside so it is a safe place for the chicks to go where there is
always food and water just for them. I'm not sure where the term "creep
feed" came from - think I first heard it when I had baby lambs. Anyway,
it has worked well for me over the few years I've had chickens and chicks.

--
-:¦:-
·.·´¨ ¨))
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
..·´ Chris
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸
·.·

that's a lovely idea! thank you.

my "lesser" hens clearly find it hard to cope without their boss-lady, and
boss-lady doesn't mind if they hang around. which isn't to say the chicks
can't be catered for as well :-)

however, see my update for an update.
kylie
0tterbot
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:36 am
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"0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote in message
news:b08Lh.12884$8U4.5243@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Quote:
the story so far:

i have a broody chook and my neighbour risked life and limb to get me two
fertile (we hope!!) eggs from under one of her broodies (an angry one Wink.
they are due to hatch some time in the next few days but we don't know the
day. when we got the eggs they'd been sat on for "about" two weeks
already, & my broody was only sitting herself for one of those weeks, so
she might get a surprise Wink

today's update is: one egg was cracking this morning. later in the morning
bunce was tapping it with her beak & talking to it. then, i had to go out
for the day.

when we all got back, the egg has _entirely disappeared_(!)

i am thinking that the chick didn't make it, & bunce has eaten it.

my other, more horrible, thought is that the chick might have made it, but
bunce ate it anyway. this is too horrible to think about, so i am going with
option a.

tbh, i was expecting perhaps a dead baby, but no egg at all & no trace of it
has kind of done my head in!!

the other egg is still there & is intact & she's sitting on it.
kylie
Jill
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:54 am
Guest
0tterbot wrote:
Quote:
"0tterbot" <spl@t.com> wrote in message
news:b08Lh.12884$8U4.5243@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
the story so far:

i have a broody chook and my neighbour risked life and limb to get
me two fertile (we hope!!) eggs from under one of her broodies (an
angry one Wink. they are due to hatch some time in the next few days
but we don't know the day. when we got the eggs they'd been sat on
for "about" two weeks already, & my broody was only sitting herself
for one of those weeks, so she might get a surprise ;-)

today's update is: one egg was cracking this morning. later in the
morning bunce was tapping it with her beak & talking to it. then, i
had to go out for the day.

when we all got back, the egg has _entirely disappeared_(!)

What small predators do you have ?
Snakes, rats, or that size?

--

regards
Jill Bowis

Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk
 
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