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| jejune |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:52 pm |
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On Mar 3, 9:57 am, "theoden" <jlfr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Mar 2, 4:19 pm, Jobe <iamgodhereti...@cyber.space> wrote:
"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote innews:1172867288.793204.222810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
A little following in the footsteps of Von Braun and others..!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/01/070301191848.0ikzd4dp.html
Germany preparing for moon mission
Mar 01 2:18 PM US/Eastern
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
Now the true space program can begin.
The "US" space program at its peak was based on German science and
implemented and designed by German expatriates.
The US has not gone back to the moon since the 1960s because they cannot.
They cannot remake the German rocket technology and so use inferior
rockets. Shuttles are fragile toys compared to German capsule technology.
NASA was given the building blocks to launch the space age and after fifty
years they have only come up with some robot toys and the shuttle toy, both
of which are worthless and uninspiring.
The Germans may just make this planet interesting again. They are known for
that.
When they make things interesting millions are dead and half of Europe
destroyed.
You folks sure are nationalistic. Why can't it just be a good thing
if man goes back to the moon, no matter who does it? It's not like
*you're* going... |
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| Greg D. Moore (Strider) |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:54 pm |
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"jejune" <matt@mattduanegriffin.com> wrote in message
news:1172944345.749428.71150@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On Mar 3, 9:57 am, "theoden" <jlfr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
You folks sure are nationalistic. Why can't it just be a good thing
if man goes back to the moon, no matter who does it? It's not like
*you're* going...
Neither is anyone else at this point.
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Greg Moore
SQL Server DBA Consulting
sql (at) greenms.com http://www.greenms.com |
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| Hunter |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:41 pm |
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On Mar 2, 4:19 pm, Jobe <iamgodhereti...@cyber.space> wrote:
Quote: "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote innews:1172867288.793204.222810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
A little following in the footsteps of Von Braun and others..!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/01/070301191848.0ikzd4dp.html
Germany preparing for moon mission
Mar 01 2:18 PM US/Eastern
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
Now the true space program can begin.
The "US" space program at its peak was based on German science and
implemented and designed by German expatriates.
The US has not gone back to the moon since the 1960s because they cannot.
They cannot remake the German rocket technology and so use inferior
rockets. Shuttles are fragile toys compared to German capsule technology.
NASA was given the building blocks to launch the space age and after fifty
years they have only come up with some robot toys and the shuttle toy, both
of which are worthless and uninspiring.
The Germans may just make this planet interesting again. They are known for
that.
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What the hell are you talking about? We haven't gone back to the moon
because we were unwilling to spend the money. From what I have seen of
the plans for the US to go back to the moon is to use greatly updated
Saturn V/Apollo technology IIRC.
---->Hunter |
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| Jaime M. de Castellvi |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:53 pm |
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:16:55 GMT, "Raymond Daley"
<raymond.daley@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1172867288.793204.222810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
orbit the earth's only natural satellite.
Er, WRONG!
Guess again fuckwit. We have three THREE 3 count them 3 moons.
Not 1, not 2. 3 moons.
Luna (AKA The Moon)
3753 Cruithne.
2002 AA29
There's always someone who doesn't do their research about how many moons
we've got, isn't there?
No shit. How many moons are there, *really*? Here, get started
counting, let's see if you can get your own research done properly,
this once...
<turns around, lowers pants>
Cheers,
Jaime |
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| Greg D. Moore (Strider) |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:57 pm |
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"Hunter" <buffhunter@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1172950915.393213.154000@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
Quote: What the hell are you talking about? We haven't gone back to the moon
because we were unwilling to spend the money. From what I have seen of
the plans for the US to go back to the moon is to use greatly updated
Saturn V/Apollo technology IIRC.
Not really.
Orion looks a lot like Apollo, but that's about it.
The booster is more based on the shuttle and even that is becoming a
stretch.
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| buffhunter@my-deja.com |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:12 pm |
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On Mar 3, 3:57 pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
<mooregr_deletet...@greenms.com> wrote:
Quote: "Hunter" <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1172950915.393213.154000@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
What the hell are you talking about? We haven't gone back to the moon
because we were unwilling to spend the money. From what I have seen of
the plans for the US to go back to the moon is to use greatly updated
Saturn V/Apollo technology IIRC.
Not really.
Orion looks a lot like Apollo, but that's about it.
The booster is more based on the shuttle and even that is becoming a
stretch.
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True, I was going basically on looks, however they are going with what
they know works like storing the new "LEM" in much the same manner and
that LEM" having two stages with the first stage being left on the
moon, just like with Project Apollo. For those who are unfamiliar with
Project Orion:
http://www.space.com/news/050919_nasa_moon.html
Here's a direct link to the image gallery:
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=3562&gid=263&index=0
Here is a more recent article:
http://www.space.com/news/060720_cev_orion.html
Perhaps "Jobe" was just trolling with his assertion that the US can't
go to the moon. I would hope he was trolling, the alternative is that
he is just an idiot.
--->Hunter |
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| buffhunter@my-deja.com |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:13 pm |
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On Mar 2, 5:16 pm, "Raymond Daley" <raymond.da...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Quote: "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote in messagenews:1172867288.793204.222810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
orbit the earth's only natural satellite.
Er, WRONG!
Guess again fuckwit. We have three THREE 3 count them 3 moons.
Not 1, not 2. 3 moons.
Luna (AKA The Moon)
3753 Cruithne.
2002 AA29
There's always someone who doesn't do their research about how many moons
we've got, isn't there?
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I have and 3753 Cruithne is not "Earth's second moon". It looks like
that because it has a orbital period around the Sun similar to Earth.
3753 Cruithne follows Earth around but it is not in orbit of Earth and
therefore is not a satellite. The same goes for 2002 AA29, which is a
sixty meter diameter near Earth Asteroid. It also follows Earth but it
is not in orbit of Earth. It is orbiting the Sun.
---->Hunter |
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| robert casey |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:38 pm |
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| John VanSickle |
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:41 pm |
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Jaime M. de Castellvi wrote:
Quote: No shit. How many moons are there, *really*?
Two, if you drink enough.
Regards,
John |
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| Jaime M. de Castellvi |
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:34 am |
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That is as may be, but "craft" in German is spelled with a "k".
Cheers,
Jaime
On 2 Mar 2007 12:28:08 -0800, "David E. Powell"
<David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote:
Quote: A little following in the footsteps of Von Braun and others..!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/01/070301191848.0ikzd4dp.html
Germany preparing for moon mission
Mar 01 2:18 PM US/Eastern
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
The head of the German Space Programme (DLR), Walter Doellinger, told
the Financial Times Deutschland that it would be ready by 2013 to send
an unmanned space shuttle to orbit the earth's only natural
satellite.
"We want to show that Germany has the know-how," he said, after the
DLR presented its plans for the mission to the German parliament.
Completing a moon mission would catapult the country into the league
of nations which can send spacecraft into orbit.
Doellinger said the federal government was mulling the project.
A high-ranking official in the economy ministry, Helge Engelhard, said
Berlin was "not negatively disposed" towards a moon mission.
He added that the mission should have clear scientific or technical
goals.
It is estimated that sending a shuttle to orbit the moon would cost
Germany between 300 and 400 million euros (396 million to 528 million
dollars).
Italy and Britain are also currently looking at sending unmanned
shuttles around the moon.
Germany became the first nation to launch a man-made object into space
in the 1940s when it tested the V-2 ballistic missile which it used
towards the end of World War II. |
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| GMAN |
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:45 pm |
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In article <Xns98E787038FC7Ejobe@217.160.217.58>, Jobe <iamgodheretilde@cyber.space> wrote:
Quote: "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote in
news:1172867288.793204.222810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
A little following in the footsteps of Von Braun and others..!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/01/070301191848.0ikzd4dp.html
Germany preparing for moon mission
Mar 01 2:18 PM US/Eastern
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
Now the true space program can begin.
The "US" space program at its peak was based on German science and
implemented and designed by German expatriates.
The US has not gone back to the moon since the 1960s because they cannot.
They cannot remake the German rocket technology and so use inferior
rockets. Shuttles are fragile toys compared to German capsule technology.
NASA was given the building blocks to launch the space age and after fifty
years they have only come up with some robot toys and the shuttle toy, both
of which are worthless and uninspiring.
The Germans may just make this planet interesting again. They are known for
that.
Next time , leave your goosestepping boots at the front door please. |
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| David E. Powell |
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:34 pm |
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theoden wrote:
Quote: On Mar 2, 4:19 pm, Jobe <iamgodhereti...@cyber.space> wrote:
"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote innews:1172867288.793204.222810@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
A little following in the footsteps of Von Braun and others..!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/01/070301191848.0ikzd4dp.html
Germany preparing for moon mission
Mar 01 2:18 PM US/Eastern
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
Now the true space program can begin.
The "US" space program at its peak was based on German science and
implemented and designed by German expatriates.
The US has not gone back to the moon since the 1960s because they cannot.
They cannot remake the German rocket technology and so use inferior
rockets. Shuttles are fragile toys compared to German capsule technology.
NASA was given the building blocks to launch the space age and after fifty
years they have only come up with some robot toys and the shuttle toy, both
of which are worthless and uninspiring.
The Germans may just make this planet interesting again. They are known for
that.
When they make things interesting millions are dead and half of Europe
destroyed.
I was thinking more the Nitrogen fixing stuff, dye making in the late
1800s, the Von Braun research and Beethoven.... come to think of it,
that makes it all the more horrid that Adolf and co. took power in
Germany... there have been a couple generations since then, though,
and the ones I have met have all been very cool people. |
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| David E. Powell |
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:37 pm |
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On Mar 5, 6:34 am, Jaime M. de Castellvi <3...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: That is as may be, but "craft" in German is spelled with a "k".
Cheers,
Jaime
Does that mean that their spacekraft makers will be known as.....
Kraftwerk?
DEP
Quote: On 2 Mar 2007 12:28:08 -0800, "DavidE.Powell"
David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote:
A little following in the footsteps of Von Braun and others..!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/03/01/070301191848.0ikzd4dp.html
Germany preparing for moon mission
Mar 01 2:18 PM US/Eastern
The German space agency is reportedly preparing for a mission to the
moon.
The head of the German Space Programme (DLR), Walter Doellinger, told
the Financial Times Deutschland that it would be ready by 2013 to send
an unmanned space shuttle to orbit the earth's only natural
satellite.
"We want to show that Germany has the know-how," he said, after the
DLR presented its plans for the mission to the German parliament.
Completing a moon mission would catapult the country into the league
of nations which can send spacecraft into orbit.
Doellinger said the federal government was mulling the project.
A high-ranking official in the economy ministry, Helge Engelhard, said
Berlin was "not negatively disposed" towards a moon mission.
He added that the mission should have clear scientific or technical
goals.
It is estimated that sending a shuttle to orbit the moon would cost
Germany between 300 and 400 million euros (396 million to 528 million
dollars).
Italy and Britain are also currently looking at sending unmanned
shuttles around the moon.
Germany became the first nation to launch a man-made object into space
in the 1940s when it tested the V-2 ballistic missile which it used
towards the end of World War II.- Hide quoted text -
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| Citizen Bob |
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:08 pm |
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On 8 Mar 2007 08:34:59 -0800, "David E. Powell"
<David_Powell3006@msn.com> wrote:
Quote: The Germans may just make this planet interesting again. They are known for
that.
When they make things interesting millions are dead and half of Europe
destroyed.
I was thinking more the Nitrogen fixing stuff, dye making in the late
1800s, the Von Braun research
You left out making gloves and lampshades.
Although Beethoven was born in Germany, he studied and wrote music
after he went to Vienna.
--
"I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another
into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that
any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the
measure, is bound to become a slave."
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| Jan Vorbrüggen |
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:46 am |
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Quote: Although Beethoven was born in Germany, he studied and wrote music
after he went to Vienna.
Incorrect.
Jan |
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