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| gb6724@yahoo.com |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:16 pm |
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Quote: Bush in most ways thinks like Ceausescu. The high-importance
lays with security, police-America, listening to all phone calls in
the world, and thinking little of the little people. Bush's remodeling
projects involves personal supremacy as the head of police.
Bush erects a model Iraq today, a country better than Arabs,
Bush not seeing his violation of culture and humanity with
his private obsession as a rich man in power. Bush created
mass racism, 80-90 percent of Arabs now think negatively
of Americans, while in the past Arabs thought positively of
Americans. Bush takes a supremacist stance (be it as American
or otherwise) over Arabs. The USA is now the world's most hated
country, it was one of the most popular countries. A cold stance
by a leader who knows no other way than to be the man on top
is a a supremacy disorder seen particularly strongly by Hitler,
his pursuit to be the winner, his military that takes nothing but a
win as supreme. It is sad, but that's the case. This is world war
III today, like it or not.
War on terrorism is suicide. Bush has no rights to remodel any Arab
country.
The humanly right thing to do is resign as a Democrat. But it is kind
of very late.
In other countries, presidents who conspire are removed. Bush claimed
Saddam harbors terrorists. These days Bush claims Iran harbors
terrorists. Not one Iraqi killed an American citizen before Bush went
there in the name of war against terrorism. The human crimes are
unprecedented.
The human rights realm is an old dark conservative police-American
culture with history of kkk. Give Bush a burning cross, the kkk is
where one finds it. A population that is brainwashed in radical
extremism, a military in 110 countries that only takes winning, a
mindset that went world hatred due to fanaticism.
The right thing for any Democratic politician would have been to
resign, but it's kind of too late. |
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| Eeyore |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:16 pm |
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"gb6724@yahoo.com" wrote:
Quote: The overall result, is that if investing 45 horsepowers
for one hour to do electrolysis, we get one gallon worth
of gasoline power to run the car's engine on hydrogen.
Another 2-15 horsepowers can get all the needed water.
If you understood the tiniest bit about science you would instantly see the flaw in
your own case.
Graham |
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| gb6724@yahoo.com |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:18 pm |
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On Feb 20, 1:11 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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Quote: "gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com> wrote: gb6...@yahoo.com wrote:
"gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Of course we will never see it [the hilarious car] in the real world, because
everybody is a stubborn fascist Hitler, like Bush.
It is neither fair nor reasonable to compare Bush to Hitler.
Hitler was one of the 20th centuries most outstanding highway engineers.
Hitler himself ?
Sorry, but you are talking to an intelligent man.
More like a daft kid who flunked high school actually.
Go troll somewhere else. Bored now !
Graham
For some its too late, for others its too soon. Skinhead trolling
is a motherfucker supremacy, at least you have time to be
online, fucking... how old are you? 15 and premature? |
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:23 pm |
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On Feb 20, 1:05 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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Quote: "gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
So we find that... Eeyore, are you still here? So we find
that it costs about 50-60 horsepowers to produce
one gasoline-gallon worth of car energy
The first thing you need to do is understand the difference between power and energy.
The above statement is fatuously wrong.
Graham
ok, you win. stop drinking alcohol. |
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| gb6724@yahoo.com |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:26 pm |
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On Feb 20, 1:06 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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Quote: "gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
But this car offers drinking water.
So does mine when I take a drinks bottle with me.
Water from condensation tastes crap btw.
Graham
It tastes snow. It sucks. But Americans drink snow
ice more and more. |
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| gb6724@yahoo.com |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:30 pm |
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On Feb 20, 1:09 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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Quote: "gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
Of course we will never see it [your car] in the real world,
No we won't because its based on 'nonsense science'.
because everybody is a stubborn fascist Hitler, like Bush.
Not at all.
May I suggest you take a crash course in basic science fundamentals before wasting
your time putting on the net fanciful ideas based on a half-misunderstanding of how
things work.
Graham
Directing people over 18 is authoritarianism (authority), biggotry.
That tends
to lead to violence, and has no realistic effect. Hitler raised his
hand as an
authority. He was by all means an authority over his race and matters
of
the racist community. When you will turn 18, you will understand it.
You
are smart, but you are too dedicated. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:42 pm |
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On Feb 20, 1:15 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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Quote: "gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
One needs energy to separate H and O atoms in water.
Indeed.
How much energy?
More than you get back by burning the hydrogen. A *lot* more in fact.
That's where all such dreams about using hydrogen as a fuel fall down. It's
hopelessly inefficient.
Graham
15000-16500 watts. Chemical factories producing hydrogen use 16500
watts. Given 1 watt is 746 horsepowers, that is equivalent to
16500*746 horsepowers of energy to process one gallon of water
for hydrogen. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:45 pm |
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Quote: The overall result, is that if investing 45 horsepowers
for one hour to do electrolysis, we get one gallon worth
of gasoline power to run the car's engine on hydrogen.
Another 2-15 horsepowers can get all the needed water.
If you understood the tiniest bit about science you would instantly see the flaw in
your own case.
Graham
Sorry but I am right. I made one mistake somewhere. As I said,
everybody is as stubborn as Bush, so this car will never see light. |
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| Don Lancaster |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:57 pm |
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Eeyore wrote:
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Don Lancaster wrote:
It is neither fair nor reasonable to compare Bush to Hitler.
Hitler was one of the 20th centuries most outstanding highway engineers.
Which US President was it who instigated the Inter-State highway network ?
Graham
Whoever it was (probablyl Ike), they clearly stole it outright from
Hitler's autobahns. Two decades or more later.
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Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
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| Eeyore |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:19 pm |
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"gb6724@yahoo.com" wrote:
Quote: Not one Iraqi killed an American citizen before Bush went
there in the name of war against terrorism.
Is that the current excuse ? I thought it was about the non-existent WMDs !
Graham |
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| Eeyore |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:20 pm |
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"gb6724@yahoo.com" wrote:
Quote: how old are you? 15 and premature?
52 and a highly experienced design engineer.
Now go and learn some science before wasting ppls' time with your daft ideas again.
Graham |
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| Eeyore |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:23 pm |
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"gb6724@yahoo.com" wrote:
Quote: Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
Of course we will never see it [your car] in the real world,
No we won't because its based on 'nonsense science'.
because everybody is a stubborn fascist Hitler, like Bush.
Not at all.
May I suggest you take a crash course in basic science fundamentals before wasting
your time putting on the net fanciful ideas based on a half-misunderstanding of how
things work.
Graham
Directing people over 18 is authoritarianism (authority), biggotry.
If you don't want to learn things that's your problem.
Quote: That tends to lead to violence, and has no realistic effect.
Bollocks.
Quote: Hitler raised his hand as an authority. He was by all means an authority over his race
and matters of the racist community. When you will turn 18, you will understand it.
You are smart, but you are too dedicated.
I'm good at what I do whereas you're just another idiot posting stupid ideas on Usenet.
Graham |
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:24 pm |
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On Feb 20, 1:03 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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Quote: "gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/new_hydrogen_car.htm
You're an idiot.
Graham
You don't believe it can run on air?
It can't.
Graham
I changed the introduction so you understand what this car is.
It runs on a battery. The battery is powered like a hybrid
car. A hybrid car is not a free energy car. Japanese haven't
figured out how to make hybrid cars free in terms of energy
yet.
www.geocities.com/gmbajszar/new_hydrogen_car.htm
" this hydrogen car could run for up to 125 miles on hydrogen taken from
straight from the air using electricity
this car does not need a hydrogen tank, it works hard in getting the hydrogen
itself from the air "
There is no hydrogen in the air.
Graham
Typically there is humidity in the air. If you go to check the weather,
you can check the humidity. Typically it is above 30 percent unless
you live in a desert or in cold places.
There is a product that makes water from the air, and works in most
places around the world. It uses something called watts. 1 watt = 746
horsepowers.
Actually you got that the wrong way round.
What exactly is the point of capturing moisture from the air ?
Graham
Perfectionism. Which can be an illness. A car that offers water
for drinking, that's more important than anything. The rest is
secret technology apparently. When you will own a car and
you are a dull father driving to work in a suit, then you say:
thank you God for this tasteless snow-tasting water. |
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| Eeyore |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:33 pm |
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"gb6724@yahoo.com" wrote:
Quote: Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"gb6...@yahoo.com" wrote:
One needs energy to separate H and O atoms in water.
Indeed.
How much energy?
More than you get back by burning the hydrogen. A *lot* more in fact.
That's where all such dreams about using hydrogen as a fuel fall down. It's
hopelessly inefficient.
Graham
15000-16500 watts. Chemical factories producing hydrogen use 16500
watts. Given 1 watt is 746 horsepowers, that is equivalent to
16500*746 horsepowers of energy to process one gallon of water
for hydrogen.
You're confusing power and energy.
Get some education !
Graham |
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:34 pm |
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"gb6724@yahoo.com" wrote:
Quote: The overall result, is that if investing 45 horsepowers
for one hour to do electrolysis, we get one gallon worth
of gasoline power to run the car's engine on hydrogen.
Another 2-15 horsepowers can get all the needed water.
If you understood the tiniest bit about science you would instantly see the flaw in
your own case.
Graham
Sorry but I am right.
No you're not.
Quote: I made one mistake somewhere.
You made a whole string of mistakes and incorrect assumptions.
Quote: As I said, everybody is as stubborn as Bush, so this car will never see light.
It will never see light because it's a stupid idea that doesn't work.
Get some education.
Graham |
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