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| Vandy Terre |
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:20 pm |
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The hens and dillies are laying. Though I fear that we will have a cold snap
that fresh all the nests we haven't found.
Meanwhile, besides kudzu what should I plant in the new chicken yard for the
hens to eat. Currently I am thinking along the lines of a couple of Catopa
trees for shade and feed. Fences with wild black berry to help slow escape or
entry of the yard while providing berries in their season. I am thinking of a
large outside run with wire over the top to keep the hawks and owls honest.
That run would open onto a larger free range on one side. On the other side
would be an earth bermed (on three sides) henhouse.
What kinds of grasses or other edible weeds should I add to the chicken range?
Did I miss anything important? Yes, plenty of water and oyster shell available
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| Amy Blankenship |
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:58 pm |
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I don't know where you live, but I would never deliberately plant kudzu
unless you live in the Orient. It's very invasive. My chickens love
hanging out under the blackberry bushes. They don't seem to find them very
threatening. Chickens do like blackberries, but they seem to prefer
blueberries. I'm suspecting you won't get many worms on your Catalpa tree
if you have chickens--they drop to the ground to mature and grow into the
moths that lay the eggs that make the next generation of worms. Chickens to
an amazing job of consuming anything that drops to the ground.
Where I am, I'm improving with legumes (probably some sort of clover) and
millet. Next fall, I will probably plant turnips, mustard and alfalfa in my
pastures. I'm also looking for Molasses grass.
However, if you have lots of dandelion and other wild lettuces, you're off
to a good start. These are probably about the most nutritious greens
available to feed to chickens.
HTH;
Amy Blankenship
Saucier, MS
"Vandy Terre" <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote in message
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Quote: The hens and dillies are laying. Though I fear that we will have a cold
snap
that fresh all the nests we haven't found.
Meanwhile, besides kudzu what should I plant in the new chicken yard for
the
hens to eat. Currently I am thinking along the lines of a couple of
Catopa
trees for shade and feed. Fences with wild black berry to help slow
escape or
entry of the yard while providing berries in their season. I am thinking
of a
large outside run with wire over the top to keep the hawks and owls
honest.
That run would open onto a larger free range on one side. On the other
side
would be an earth bermed (on three sides) henhouse.
What kinds of grasses or other edible weeds should I add to the chicken
range?
Did I miss anything important? Yes, plenty of water and oyster shell
available
in all areas.
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| Jill |
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:47 am |
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Vandy Terre wrote:
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What kinds of grasses or other edible weeds should I add to the
chicken range?
Look up "game cover" for references to seeds for birds
It depends a great deal on where you are and your climate - without knowing
that its pretty difficult to suggest much
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| Vandy Terre |
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:29 pm |
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:58:48 -0600, "Amy Blankenship"
<Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
Quote: I don't know where you live, but I would never deliberately plant kudzu
unless you live in the Orient. It's very invasive. My chickens love
hanging out under the blackberry bushes. They don't seem to find them very
threatening. Chickens do like blackberries, but they seem to prefer
blueberries. I'm suspecting you won't get many worms on your Catalpa tree
if you have chickens--they drop to the ground to mature and grow into the
moths that lay the eggs that make the next generation of worms. Chickens to
an amazing job of consuming anything that drops to the ground.
Perhaps at least on Catalpa should be planted out of easy range of the chickens.
Quote: Where I am, I'm improving with legumes (probably some sort of clover) and
millet. Next fall, I will probably plant turnips, mustard and alfalfa in my
pastures. I'm also looking for Molasses grass.
Clover is a good idea. Stay away from alfalfa, it makes the egg yolks green
which tends to upset people trying to eat them. What is molasses grass? Do you
have another name for it?
Quote: However, if you have lots of dandelion and other wild lettuces, you're off
to a good start. These are probably about the most nutritious greens
available to feed to chickens.
LOL, I have tried to establish dandelion for the last fifteen years with no
luck. The poultry along with the goats and sheep keep any dandelions eaten to
the root before they have more than three leaves. This year I am planning to
run a chicken wire hoop over the dandelions.
I am unfamiliar with 'wild lettuce'. Any chance of a Latin name or phylum? |
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| Vandy Terre |
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:29 pm |
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:47:38 -0000, "Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: Vandy Terre wrote:
What kinds of grasses or other edible weeds should I add to the
chicken range?
Look up "game cover" for references to seeds for birds
It depends a great deal on where you are and your climate - without knowing
that its pretty difficult to suggest much
Georgia, growth zone 8, high acid heavy clay soil.
Could you, please, point me in the correct direction to look up 'game cover'? I
have contacted the Forestry and Agriculture offices in the past with little luck
in receiving an answer. |
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| Jill |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:38 am |
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Vandy Terre wrote:
Quote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:47:38 -0000, "Jill"
news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
Vandy Terre wrote:
What kinds of grasses or other edible weeds should I add to the
chicken range?
Look up "game cover" for references to seeds for birds
It depends a great deal on where you are and your climate - without
knowing that its pretty difficult to suggest much
Georgia, growth zone 8, high acid heavy clay soil.
You are going to need to do some hard work to make that appealing to growing
anything ;)
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Could you, please, point me in the correct direction to look up 'game
cover'?
Google?
I have contacted the Forestry and Agriculture offices in the
Quote: past with little luck in receiving an answer.
What do your state arable farms grow
Quinoa [Cranola] is one of the most nutritious things you can grow
Kale and other brassicas
Seeding grasses that vary their time of shedding
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| Amy Blankenship |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:43 am |
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"Vandy Terre" <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:58:48 -0600, "Amy Blankenship"
Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote:
I don't know where you live, but I would never deliberately plant kudzu
unless you live in the Orient. It's very invasive. My chickens love
hanging out under the blackberry bushes. They don't seem to find them
very
threatening. Chickens do like blackberries, but they seem to prefer
blueberries. I'm suspecting you won't get many worms on your Catalpa
tree
if you have chickens--they drop to the ground to mature and grow into the
moths that lay the eggs that make the next generation of worms. Chickens
to
an amazing job of consuming anything that drops to the ground.
Perhaps at least on Catalpa should be planted out of easy range of the
chickens.
Where I am, I'm improving with legumes (probably some sort of clover) and
millet. Next fall, I will probably plant turnips, mustard and alfalfa in
my
pastures. I'm also looking for Molasses grass.
Clover is a good idea. Stay away from alfalfa, it makes the egg yolks
green
which tends to upset people trying to eat them. What is molasses grass?
Do you
have another name for it?
Alfalfa is commonly recommended on the pastured poultry mailing list to keep
egg yolks *yellow* in the winter. Where I am, alfalfa is a cool season
crop, so that works out just fine for me. You might want to sign up there
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PasturePoultry/, since, given the types
of plants you listed, I suspect you're in the US. While there are several
experts that post on this newsgroup, I haven't seen anyone posting much who
seems to be in the US.
Molasses grass is a South American grass that, in addition to being very
palatable and nutritious, traps anything that tries to crawl up it. Since I
also have goats and dogs, this is an important trait for me.
Quote: However, if you have lots of dandelion and other wild lettuces, you're off
to a good start. These are probably about the most nutritious greens
available to feed to chickens.
LOL, I have tried to establish dandelion for the last fifteen years with
no
luck. The poultry along with the goats and sheep keep any dandelions
eaten to
the root before they have more than three leaves. This year I am planning
to
run a chicken wire hoop over the dandelions.
My chickens aren't allowed out when I'm not there to supervise, so I wind up
pulling the dandelions, etc. to feed them. I figure enough slip through to
maintain the population. I defy my Scottish husband and ruthlessly uproot
any thistle I find before it gets hard.
Quote: I am unfamiliar with 'wild lettuce'. Any chance of a Latin name or
phylum?
If it looks like a dandelion but i's not, it's probably some variety of wild
lettuce.
http://www.umassgreeninfo.org/fact_sheets/weed_herbarium/pages/lacbi.html |
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| Amy Blankenship |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:44 am |
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"Vandy Terre" <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:47:38 -0000, "Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk
wrote:
Vandy Terre wrote:
What kinds of grasses or other edible weeds should I add to the
chicken range?
Look up "game cover" for references to seeds for birds
It depends a great deal on where you are and your climate - without
knowing
that its pretty difficult to suggest much
Georgia, growth zone 8, high acid heavy clay soil.
Could you, please, point me in the correct direction to look up 'game
cover'? I
have contacted the Forestry and Agriculture offices in the past with
little luck
in receiving an answer.
Seedland.com |
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| Mary Fisher |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:06 pm |
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"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Quinoa [Cranola] is one of the most nutritious things you can grow
Do you mean the greenery or the seed - or both?
Can it be grown in Yorkshire?
Quote: Kale and other brassicas
Agreed. Spinach is fought over.
Quote: Seeding grasses that vary their time of shedding
Our hens have eaten every bit of green grass in the garden. We keep seeding
and protecting with hooped chicken wire but they jump on it until they can
get their beaks to the grass.
Yes I DO give them lots of other greenery :-)
Mary |
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| Amy Blankenship |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:21 pm |
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"Vandy Terre" <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:47:38 -0000, "Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk
wrote:
Vandy Terre wrote:
What kinds of grasses or other edible weeds should I add to the
chicken range?
Look up "game cover" for references to seeds for birds
It depends a great deal on where you are and your climate - without
knowing
that its pretty difficult to suggest much
Georgia, growth zone 8, high acid heavy clay soil.
Could you, please, point me in the correct direction to look up 'game
cover'? I
have contacted the Forestry and Agriculture offices in the past with
little luck
in receiving an answer.
You may find this interesting
http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/poultryoverview.html, and the attra website
as a whole is a good reference for this type of thing.
HTH;
Amy |
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| Jill |
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:21 pm |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
Quote: "Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45dab353$0$8749$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
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Quinoa [Cranola] is one of the most nutritious things you can grow
Do you mean the greenery or the seed - or both?
I think its both
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Can it be grown in Yorkshire?
Try it?
http://www.bostonseeds.co.uk/page62.htm
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Kale and other brassicas
Agreed. Spinach is fought over.
Seeding grasses that vary their time of shedding
Our hens have eaten every bit of green grass in the garden. We keep
seeding and protecting with hooped chicken wire but they jump on it
until they can get their beaks to the grass.
Yes I DO give them lots of other greenery :-)
Ours have lots of green so seeds are more prized ;)
--
regards
Jill Bowis
Pure bred utility chickens and ducks
Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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