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Maxwell

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:22 pm

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I'm a beginner that would like to start learning a simulation package to
aid my understand of basic electronics. I have spent a great deal of time
searching the archives, and reading comments on sim software, and decided I
would like to go with either LT Spice or Visual Spice. Right now I can get
Visual Spice Advanced for $98. Would it be worth it to me in the long run,
or should I just go with LT Spice since it's free. If it's likely I would
want to upgrade someday, I'd rather spend the money to begin with, and avoid
the learning curve of changing later. But the what are the odds I would ever
outgrow LT Spice?

Thanks for your thoughts guys, I really appreciate it,

Maxwell

Joerg

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:26 pm

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Maxwell wrote:

Quote:

It doesn't get much easier than LTSpice. You can do schematic entry. Ok,
maybe I am biased because I grew up in a time when text entry was the
only modus operandi for simulations. And I still use the slide rule...

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Fred Bartoli

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:54 pm

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Joerg a écrit :

Quote:

Maxwell wrote:

I'm a beginner that would like to start learning a simulation package to
aid my understand of basic electronics. I have spent a great deal of time
searching the archives, and reading comments on sim software, and
decided I
would like to go with either LT Spice or Visual Spice. Right now I can
get
Visual Spice Advanced for $98. Would it be worth it to me in the long
run,
or should I just go with LT Spice since it's free. If it's likely I would
want to upgrade someday, I'd rather spend the money to begin with, and
avoid
the learning curve of changing later. But the what are the odds I
would ever outgrow LT Spice?

Thanks for your thoughts guys, I really appreciate it,

Maxwell

It doesn't get much easier than LTSpice. You can do schematic entry. Ok,
maybe I am biased because I grew up in a time when text entry was the
only modus operandi for simulations. And I still use the slide rule...

Slide rule... hmmm
Do you still use the old text one (log table) or did you take the plunge
and switched to that incredibly modern graphic one with a cursor? :-)

--
Thanks,
Fred.

D from BC

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:55 pm

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:22:23 -0600, "Maxwell" <luv2fly99@cox.net>
wrote:

Quote:

One thing that's constant is change...

I say start with LTSpice and then try something else when needed.

You could read the replies I got when I posted:
Do Designers Do Spice Hopping?
http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/a0d0e272a0843ca4/d19f08e60d00d903?lnk=st&q=do+designers+do+spice+hopping&rnum=1&hl=en#d19f08e60d00d903

D from BC

martin griffith

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:11 pm

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:22:23 -0600, in sci.electronics.design
"Maxwell" <luv2fly99@cox.net> wrote:

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happy, ask for your money back Smile

I have a feeling that LTspice will outgrow you, if you are just a
beginner

martin

Joerg

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:34 pm

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Fred Bartoli wrote:

Quote:

Joerg a écrit :

Maxwell wrote:

I'm a beginner that would like to start learning a simulation package to
aid my understand of basic electronics. I have spent a great deal of
time
searching the archives, and reading comments on sim software, and
decided I
would like to go with either LT Spice or Visual Spice. Right now I
can get
Visual Spice Advanced for $98. Would it be worth it to me in the long
run,
or should I just go with LT Spice since it's free. If it's likely I
would
want to upgrade someday, I'd rather spend the money to begin with,
and avoid
the learning curve of changing later. But the what are the odds I
would ever outgrow LT Spice?

Thanks for your thoughts guys, I really appreciate it,

Maxwell

It doesn't get much easier than LTSpice. You can do schematic entry.
Ok, maybe I am biased because I grew up in a time when text entry was
the only modus operandi for simulations. And I still use the slide
rule...

Slide rule... hmmm
Do you still use the old text one (log table) or did you take the plunge
and switched to that incredibly modern graphic one with a cursor? :-)

I've got two tables. Almost mil-spec with embedded washable dust covers
so coffee and beer stains wipe right off. Then several modern ones with
cursor. The one I use the most is the "Aristo Scholar VS". I don't own a
rotational one though like Jim does. Well, my wife does but it is for
gynecological ultrasound.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Tom Bruhns

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:28 pm

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On Feb 13, 2:22 pm, "Maxwell" <luv2fl...@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:

I attended a seminar given by the person who developed LTSpice, and
who maintains it, a couple weeks ago. We got to learn a lot about the
history of Spice and the things he's done to make it the best Spice
around. I'd say it's unlikely you'll find a better one, if you
consider everything, and highly unlikely you'll find one with support
that's as good. Companies that try to make a living selling Spice
will never have the resources to invest in it as does a company like
Linear Technology that needs a good, stable simulation program to do
their in-house designs on. In addition, it's unlikely you'll find
another one that has anywhere near as active and helpful a user's
group as LT spice does.

If something else works better for you, by all means go for it, but if
I were you, I'd want to make sure I was actually getting a better
product--one that actually did more for me--before I spent any money
on it.

Cheers,
Tom

Maxwell

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:04 pm

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Thanks a lot for your input guys, I really apprecate it.

I don't mind spending 100 or so if it would benefit me, but it doesn't sound
like it would.

John

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:12 pm

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"Maxwell" <luv2fly99@cox.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

I'm a beginner that would like to start learning a simulation package to
aid my understand of basic electronics. I have spent a great deal of time
searching the archives, and reading comments on sim software, and decided
I
would like to go with either LT Spice or Visual Spice. Right now I can get
Visual Spice Advanced for $98. Would it be worth it to me in the long run,
or should I just go with LT Spice since it's free. If it's likely I would
want to upgrade someday, I'd rather spend the money to begin with, and
avoid
the learning curve of changing later. But the what are the odds I would
ever outgrow LT Spice?

Thanks for your thoughts guys, I really appreciate it,

Maxwell

I paid for Visual Spice about 4 or 5 years ago. I had lots of trouble with
it. I went to LT Spice and I have never looked back.

Cheers,
John

qrk

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:12 pm

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:22:23 -0600, "Maxwell" <luv2fly99@cox.net>
wrote:

Quote:

Spice solver is on par, or better, than the high cost programs. Added
bonus, LTspice accepts PSpice syntax. If you use LTspice, get the
PSpice Reference Guide which can be found on the Internet as a PDF
download.

---
Mark

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