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hoofprints
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:35 am
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John Jones wrote:
Quote:

On Feb 12, 2:00�am, "George" <gmwemail-...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Not even ONE straight answer to my question? <SIGH!

Oh well .....

"George" <gmwemail-...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I need to research the condition where a person alone at home sometimes
feels frightened and helpless because he senses that someone is there in
his immediate presence. If a family member arrives home and enters the
subject's room, the subject frequently looks behind the other person to see
whether this imagined being is standing there.

The subject is presently in his teens, but has had occasional episodes of
severe fright related to these feelings since infancy.

What is this condition called? What terms should I search on for info?- Hide quoted text -

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I can you answer you. Even if a doctor has 'seen this sort of thing
before' and can put a name to it, you can't seriously believe that
there will be any knowledge of it, accept in the sense that something
has gone wrong with the brain. Why don't you admit that you want to
offload a problem by medicalising it?

"offload a problem"?!? Maybe the reason why 'George' wants to
medicalize a problem that is _'His'_ problem, not the 'subjects'. The
problem is that George wants to control something that he has no control
over, so he creates a problem which then balloons into a greater
problem. But wait, the problem is George's problem, and George's need to
blow things out of proportion.
George may also believe that a few other things about the 'subject' and
doesn't want to 'accept' that the 'subject' is their 'own person', not
an extension of himself. The 'subject' is an individual.





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hoofprints
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:13 pm
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Maybe George did a better job of raising his children, but as they are
not 'exact clones' of himself or have different ideas based on many
factors, he has to find something wrong because they are not carbon
copies of himself..


hoofprints wrote:
Quote:

hoofprints wrote:

George wrote:

Not even ONE straight answer to my question? <SIGH!

Oh well .....

"George" <gmwemail-dsp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ziAzh.6073$4H1.4596@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
I need to research the condition where a person alone at home sometimes
feels frightened and helpless because he senses that someone is there in
his immediate presence. If a family member arrives home and enters the
subject's room, the subject frequently looks behind the other person to see
whether this imagined being is standing there.

The subject is presently in his teens, but has had occasional episodes of
severe fright related to these feelings since infancy.

Ok, George,
Maybe the family member 'Startled' him.
Maybe the 'severe fright' you witnessed when he was an infant was a
'startle reflex' and you began reinforcing the reflex, and seem to be
doing the same thing at this later date.

Maybe the subject feels like you are invading 'their' rights to privacy.

Or:
Maybe there are histrionic persons who insist that Pandemics are
imminent.
Or:
Maybe there are 'histrionic' persons who search for information on the
community where he resides and then let it be known that the area is
well known for it's methamphetamine use, ergo, as the histrionic
personalities are not in the same room, where they can 'lightly cuff'
the subject to themselves, they 'must take charge' and move the person
to another area. [What is wrong with that thinking, for one thing they
are not seeing that the subject has set their own boundaries about their
drug usage, and so that must be one of their own problems, as that is
'what they [histrionic] would do, if they lived in the area'].
OR: Maybe the histrionic person, is 'avoiding' their own issues about
drug usage, and so, they feel the need to divert the attention off of
themselves and onto the families designated 'problem child'.
OR: Maybe the subject has been so 'beat down' by the families fear
mongering.
OR: Maybe the histrionic persons are projecting.



What is this condition called? What terms should I search on for info?



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*Hetero* PRIDE !!

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*Hetero* PRIDE !!

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--

Hoof
"If It Hurts, Don't Do It"!
*Hetero* PRIDE !!


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Linda
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:04 pm
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"hoofprints" <equsphotogophr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:


George wrote:

Not even ONE straight answer to my question? <SIGH!

Oh well .....

"George" <gmwemail-dsp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ziAzh.6073$4H1.4596@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
I need to research the condition where a person alone at home sometimes
feels frightened and helpless because he senses that someone is there in
his immediate presence. If a family member arrives home and enters the
subject's room, the subject frequently looks behind the other person to
see
whether this imagined being is standing there.

The subject is presently in his teens, but has had occasional episodes
of
severe fright related to these feelings since infancy.


Ok, George,
Maybe the family member 'Startled' him.
Maybe the 'severe fright' you witnessed when he was an infant was a
'startle reflex' and you began reinforcing the reflex,

That's what first came to my mind... and, that's called Hyperflexia.

I didn't suggest it because, to the best of my knowledge, premonitions
aren't a feature of hyperflexia.
hoofprints
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:46 pm
Guest
Linda wrote:
Quote:

"hoofprints" <equsphotogophr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45D0A784.900CA3D1@hotmail.com...


George wrote:

Not even ONE straight answer to my question? <SIGH!

Oh well .....

"George" <gmwemail-dsp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ziAzh.6073$4H1.4596@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
I need to research the condition where a person alone at home sometimes
feels frightened and helpless because he senses that someone is there in
his immediate presence. If a family member arrives home and enters the
subject's room, the subject frequently looks behind the other person to
see
whether this imagined being is standing there.

The subject is presently in his teens, but has had occasional episodes
of
severe fright related to these feelings since infancy.


Ok, George,
Maybe the family member 'Startled' him.
Maybe the 'severe fright' you witnessed when he was an infant was a
'startle reflex' and you began reinforcing the reflex,

That's what first came to my mind... and, that's called Hyperflexia.

I didn't suggest it because, to the best of my knowledge, premonitions
aren't a feature of hyperflexia.

It isn't premonitions, unless you are psychic.
Try paranoid delusions.
My point is that the hyperflexia may have inadvertently been reinforced
by primary caregivers which set up a pattern that exists today.
My other point is that methamphetamines, bi-polar disorder with mixed
moods and rapid cycling, along with alcohol can and will cause some of
these paranoid delusions. Some friends may be telling the person their
own paranoid delusions and the other persons judgment is so clouded by a
combination of the above the paranoid delusion becomes real in the
persons mind. If the friend has also used drugs or is still using drugs
that kind of fear mongering needs to be cut off, no matter how many
years they have been friends.
Take away the methamphetamines [ which were never a part of the original
dx. for some reason, probably fear on the part of the client to tell the
truth] and that bipolar disorder with mixed moods and rapid cycling may
be
be downgraded from severe or moderate to mild or hopefully nil.

Personally I have cut off many of my friends from when I was married
because their own lives became complicated due to their drug usage. One
was an RN who has allowed the stuff to ruin her entire life.
She lost her RN license, and finally ended up with an arrest record for
robbery.
Her boyfriend was the one I met first, he and I had been friends since i
was 19 years old, but when this stuff becomes a part of my regular life
I am apt to 'avoid' these people like the plague.
He really allowed the drugs to screw his life up too and as I have known
him for so many years, it's like watching a friend die and disintegrate
before your eyes.


--

Hoof
"If It Hurts, Don't Do It"!
*Hetero* PRIDE !!


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were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
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hoofprints
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:52 pm
Guest
hoofprints wrote:
Quote:

Linda wrote:

"hoofprints" <equsphotogophr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45D0A784.900CA3D1@hotmail.com...


George wrote:

Not even ONE straight answer to my question? <SIGH!

Oh well .....

"George" <gmwemail-dsp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ziAzh.6073$4H1.4596@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
I need to research the condition where a person alone at home sometimes
feels frightened and helpless because he senses that someone is there in
his immediate presence. If a family member arrives home and enters the
subject's room, the subject frequently looks behind the other person to
see
whether this imagined being is standing there.

The subject is presently in his teens, but has had occasional episodes
of
severe fright related to these feelings since infancy.


Ok, George,
Maybe the family member 'Startled' him.
Maybe the 'severe fright' you witnessed when he was an infant was a
'startle reflex' and you began reinforcing the reflex,

That's what first came to my mind... and, that's called Hyperflexia.

I didn't suggest it because, to the best of my knowledge, premonitions
aren't a feature of hyperflexia.

It isn't premonitions, unless you are psychic.
Try paranoid delusions.
My point is that the hyperflexia may have inadvertently been reinforced
by primary caregivers which set up a pattern that exists today.
My other point is that methamphetamines, bi-polar disorder with mixed
moods and rapid cycling, along with alcohol can and will cause some of
these paranoid delusions. Some friends may be telling the person their
own paranoid delusions and the other persons judgment is so clouded by a
combination of the above the paranoid delusion becomes real in the
persons mind. If the friend has also used drugs or is still using drugs
that kind of fear mongering needs to be cut off, no matter how many
years they have been friends.
Take away the methamphetamines [ which were never a part of the original
dx. for some reason, probably fear on the part of the client to tell the
truth] and that bipolar disorder with mixed moods and rapid cycling may
be
be downgraded from severe or moderate to mild or hopefully nil.

The rapid cycling in one person was lessened when they remained away
from their drugs for a period of 4 months. And the person could and has
stayed away for other periods of time.

Quote:

Personally I have cut off many of my friends from when I was married
because their own lives became complicated due to their drug usage. One
was an RN who has allowed the stuff to ruin her entire life.
She lost her RN license, and finally ended up with an arrest record for
robbery.
Her boyfriend was the one I met first, he and I had been friends since i
was 19 years old, but when this stuff becomes a part of my regular life
I am apt to 'avoid' these people like the plague.
He really allowed the drugs to screw his life up too and as I have known
him for so many years, it's like watching a friend die and disintegrate
before your eyes.

Not _all_ drug addicts seek street drugs when moved out of an area where
their drug dealers reside, in fact that is a plus. Perhaps the reason
is fear of being arrested by undercover agents and the desire to remain
out of prison or jail.
I don't know, but it is unusual, and it does happen.
And George, if the boy has been on the internet have you considered that
they may have run into a group of people who have targeted him? Perhaps
there is a valid basis for the fear other then something that happened
in infancy. The two may not even be related.


Quote:

--

Hoof
"If It Hurts, Don't Do It"!
*Hetero* PRIDE !!

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--

Hoof
"If It Hurts, Don't Do It"!
*Hetero* PRIDE !!


{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
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Dr. Wee Hung Lo
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:41 pm
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"John Jones" <jonescardiff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1171294193.748774.312350@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
: On Feb 11, 7:30?pm, "Dr. Wee Hung Lo" <dr....@hocho.org> wrote:
: > "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote in message
: >
: > news:1171221210.513760.240510@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
: > :Strange how a person can think that by 'naming a condition'
everything
: > :becomes understood. Why invent a 'condition' to try and explain
what
: > :you don't understand? The 'subject' needs to find out in human
terms,
: > :not in obscure terms called 'conditions'.
: > :
: >
: > To show you how incorrect you are I will illustrate it thusly.
: >
: > John Jones is an idiot.
: >
: > Now, everyone has the correct idea about you and your condition.
See,
: > naming conventions are indeed very useful.
:
: Dr wee there ... still looking for his ventriloquist.
:

Not really, the echo you hear is because the verbiage is bouncing around
the substantial empty inner space of your skull. One of the hazards of
being an idiot. Sad
John Jones
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:53 pm
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4263
On Feb 12, 3:35�pm, hoofprints <equsphotogo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
John Jones wrote:

On Feb 12, 2:00�am, "George" <gmwemail-...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Not even ONE straight answer to my question?  <SIGH!

Oh well .....

"George" <gmwemail-...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ziAzh.6073$4H1.4596@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...

I need to research the condition where a person alone at home sometimes
feels frightened and helpless because he senses that someone is there in
his immediate presence. If a family member arrives home and enters the
subject's room, the subject frequently looks behind the other person to see
whether this imagined being is standing there.

The subject is presently in his teens, but has had occasional episodes of
severe fright related to these feelings since infancy.

What is this condition called?  What terms should I search on for info?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I can you answer you. Even if a doctor has 'seen this sort of thing
before' and can put a name to it, you can't seriously believe that
there will be any knowledge of it, accept in the sense that something
has gone wrong with the brain. Why don't you admit that you want to
offload a problem by medicalising it?

"offload a problem"?!?  Maybe the reason why 'George' wants to
medicalize a problem that is _'His'_ problem, not the 'subjects'.  The
problem is that George wants to control something that he has no control
over, so he creates a problem which then balloons into a greater
problem. But wait, the problem is George's problem, and George's need to
blow things out of proportion.
George may also believe that a few other things about the 'subject' and
doesn't want to 'accept' that the 'subject' is their 'own person', not
an extension of himself.  The 'subject' is an individual.

--

Hoof
"If It Hurts, Don't Do It"!
*Hetero* PRIDE !!

{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.}
A Free Thinker. © 2003- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

He's offloading a problem onto an illness model. It's like saying,
"can anyone help me with my condition of crying at funerals"

He is DISOWNING himself.
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