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| marcia |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:50 pm |
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On Feb 4, 4:38 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 4, 8:19?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2:17 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
What makes you think BPD is there?
What makes me think BPD is *where*? Holly proposed it as a
**hypothetical** situation.
Don't you know how to play, John? Or are you fundamentally opposed to
that?
That's assuming of course that BPD
refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
perception. Get on the ball missus.
BPD may be, to some extent, a social construct. But so what? The
constellation of signs & symptoms are painful to the individual (and
people who interact with him/her) and are therefore deserving of
treatment if the person so desires.
I know you're opposed to psychiatry and meds, but are you also opposed
to people seeking psychological help for emotional distress?
BPD is "symptoms" of what? BPD?
I don't think you know what "help" is in a psychological context. It
just sounds good.
Here's an article on BPD that includes a list of signs and symptoms.
Try reading it and rejoin the discussion once you've educated yourself
a bit.
http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/bpd.html |
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| hoofprints |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:09 pm |
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Holly wrote:
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On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?
Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.
Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.
That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.
Silly little bedpan slinger that I am, this 'jealous type generally
happens after fifty' is NEWS to me.
I guess 'sibling rivalry' is no longer considered a 'jealous type of
behavior'.
I have to ask which groups were sampled and were they then divided into
subgroups based on religion, politics,
sexual preference and all the other mentioned in the politically correct
realm.
--
Hoof
*Hetero* PRIDE !!
I like people who have scruples, if you are unscrupulous, or your
mentors are unscrupulous,
Get Lost.
{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.}
A Free Thinker. © 2003 |
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| hoofprints |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:31 pm |
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hoofprints wrote:
Quote:
Holly wrote:
On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?
Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.
Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.
That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.
Silly little bedpan slinger that I am, this 'jealous type generally
happens after fifty' is NEWS to me.
I guess 'sibling rivalry' is no longer considered a 'jealous type of
behavior'.
I have to ask which groups were sampled and were they then divided into
subgroups based on religion, politics,
sexual preference and all the other mentioned in the politically correct
realm.
And for those who believe in the Oedipus/Electra Complex, what about
those two ideas being the first indication of 'jealously'?
Or are you answers based on the BPD/onset of jealously?
My 2 cents on the BPD. Is it correctly dx'd? Did the client leave out
information during the test which would show a vastly different dx.
Such as drug usage, type etc. What were the major stressors during the
time of the test?
--
Hoof
*Hetero* PRIDE !!
I like people who have scruples, if you are unscrupulous, or your
mentors are unscrupulous,
Get Lost.
{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.}
A Free Thinker. © 2003 |
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| marcia |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:45 pm |
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On Feb 4, 5:31 pm, hoofprints <equsphotogo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: hoofprints wrote:
Holly wrote:
On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?
Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.
Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.
That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.
Silly little bedpan slinger that I am, this 'jealous type generally
happens after fifty' is NEWS to me.
I guess 'sibling rivalry' is no longer considered a 'jealous type of
behavior'.
I have to ask which groups were sampled and were they then divided into
subgroups based on religion, politics,
sexual preference and all the other mentioned in the politically correct
realm.
And for those who believe in the Oedipus/Electra Complex, what about
those two ideas being the first indication of 'jealously'?
Or are you answers based on the BPD/onset of jealously?
My 2 cents on the BPD. Is it correctly dx'd? Did the client leave out
information during the test which would show a vastly different dx.
Such as drug usage, type etc. What were the major stressors during the
time of the test?
Assume this is hypothetical, and either diagnosis is correct: you just
pick one and explain why you'd prefer to live with that disorder
rather than the other (infer textbook symptoms).
The part that most confuses me is the erotomania/jealous type, because
I thought those were two different subtypes of delusional disorder.
Also, I was under the impression that BPD often "burned out" in middle
age, but I could be wrong on both counts. |
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| John Jones |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:31 pm |
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On Feb 4, 9:50?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 4, 4:38 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 8:19?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2:17 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
What makes you think BPD is there?
What makes me think BPD is *where*? Holly proposed it as a
**hypothetical** situation.
Don't you know how to play, John? Or are you fundamentally opposed to
that?
That's assuming of course that BPD
refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
perception. Get on the ball missus.
BPD may be, to some extent, a social construct. But so what? The
constellation of signs & symptoms are painful to the individual (and
people who interact with him/her) and are therefore deserving of
treatment if the person so desires.
I know you're opposed to psychiatry and meds, but are you also opposed
to people seeking psychological help for emotional distress?
BPD is "symptoms" of what? BPD?
I don't think you know what "help" is in a psychological context. It
just sounds good.
Here's an article on BPD that includes a list of signs and symptoms.
So BPD is a symptom of BPD. |
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| marcia |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:00 pm |
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On Feb 4, 6:31 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 4, 9:50?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
Here's an article on BPD that includes a list of signs and symptoms.
So BPD is a symptom of BPD.
Where do you see that, John? I swear, you can only sing one note. |
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| Dr. Wee Hung Lo |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:07 pm |
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"John Jones" <jonescardiff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1170625131.247068.327630@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
: On Feb 4, 8:19?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
: > On Feb 4, 2:17 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
: >
: > > On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
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: > > > Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create
a lot
: > > > of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD,
though,
: >
: > > What makes you think BPD is there?
: >
: > What makes me think BPD is *where*? Holly proposed it as a
: > **hypothetical** situation.
: >
: > Don't you know how to play, John? Or are you fundamentally opposed
to
: > that?
: >
: > That's assuming of course that BPD
: >
: > > refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
: > > perception. Get on the ball missus.
: >
: > BPD may be, to some extent, a social construct. But so what? The
: > constellation of signs & symptoms are painful to the individual (and
: > people who interact with him/her) and are therefore deserving of
: > treatment if the person so desires.
: >
: > I know you're opposed to psychiatry and meds, but are you also
opposed
: > to people seeking psychological help for emotional distress?
:
: BPD is "symptoms" of what? BPD?
:
Are you a *total* idiot? BPD is a description.
: I don't think you know what "help" is in a psychological context. It
: just sounds good.
:
OK, fess up, what is it? |
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| Dr. Wee Hung Lo |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:11 pm |
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"John Jones" <jonescardiff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1170631918.466859.225200@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
: On Feb 4, 9:50?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
: > On Feb 4, 4:38 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > > On Feb 4, 8:19?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
: >
: > > > On Feb 4, 2:17 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
: >
: > > > > On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
: >
: > > > > > Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would
create a lot
: > > > > > of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD,
though,
: >
: > > > > What makes you think BPD is there?
: >
: > > > What makes me think BPD is *where*? Holly proposed it as a
: > > > **hypothetical** situation.
: >
: > > > Don't you know how to play, John? Or are you fundamentally
opposed to
: > > > that?
: >
: > > > That's assuming of course that BPD
: >
: > > > > refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a
social
: > > > > perception. Get on the ball missus.
: >
: > > > BPD may be, to some extent, a social construct. But so what? The
: > > > constellation of signs & symptoms are painful to the individual
(and
: > > > people who interact with him/her) and are therefore deserving of
: > > > treatment if the person so desires.
: >
: > > > I know you're opposed to psychiatry and meds, but are you also
opposed
: > > > to people seeking psychological help for emotional distress?
: >
: > > BPD is "symptoms" of what? BPD?
: >
: > > I don't think you know what "help" is in a psychological context.
It
: > > just sounds good.
: >
: > Here's an article on BPD that includes a list of signs and symptoms.
: So BPD is a symptom of BPD.
:
Ahhh, the male counterpart of linda.
Lack of reading and comprehension skills.
So tell us, which parent do you blame that on or hold responsible? |
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| Dr. Wee Hung Lo |
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:14 pm |
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"hoofprints" <equsphotogophr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: Silly little bedpan slinger that I am,
HURRAH!!!
Who says there is no help found in SPP?
You finally got it! Now you may inner solace and come to grips with the
rest of reality. |
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