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Holly
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:09 am
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You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?
John Jones
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:47 am
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4263
On Feb 4, 2:09�pm, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out.  You must have one to enter this
earthly plane.  Which would you prefer to have and why?

I don't think God, heaven or nature would have any use for man-made
mental categories and inventions like "mental health" and "mental
illness".
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marcia
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:03 am
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On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.

Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.
Holly
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:37 pm
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On Feb 4, 9:47 am, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 2:09?pm, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. ?You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. ?Which would you prefer to have and why?

I don't think God, heaven or nature would have any use for man-made
mental categories and inventions like "mental health" and "mental
illness".

Of coure not. It is just an exercise.
Holly
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:42 pm
Guest
On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.

Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.

That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.
marcia
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:54 pm
Guest
On Feb 4, 11:42 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:



On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.

Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.

That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.

Whose response were you looking for?
marcia
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:49 pm
Guest
On Feb 4, 11:42 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:



On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. Which would you prefer to have and why?

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.

Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.

That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.

Interesting that we were evaluating the situation from totally
different perspectives. You seemed to be trying to determine which
disorder would allow you to achieve eventual (relative) normalcy,
while I was trying to determine which would result in the fewest
negative consequences. lol.
John Jones
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:17 pm
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4263
On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:

Quote:
Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,

What makes you think BPD is there? That's assuming of course that BPD
refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
perception. Get on the ball missus.
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John Jones
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:21 pm
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4263
On Feb 4, 4:42�pm, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:





On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out.  You must have one to enter this
earthly plane.  Which would you prefer to have and why?

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.

Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.

That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter.  My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity.  BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How would these 'illnesses' or whatever way you perceive them, be a
choice if, like you implied, it is a social perception?
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Dr. Wee Hung Lo
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:15 pm
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"John Jones" <jonescardiff@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1170616665.999383.41700@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
: On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
:
: > Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a
lot
: > of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
:
: What makes you think BPD is there? That's assuming of course that BPD
: refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
: perception. Get on the ball missus.
:

"Get on the ball"???

Exactly what does this mean, it appears to be solely your private
perception.
marcia
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:19 pm
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On Feb 4, 2:17 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,

What makes you think BPD is there?

What makes me think BPD is *where*? Holly proposed it as a
**hypothetical** situation.

Don't you know how to play, John? Or are you fundamentally opposed to
that?

That's assuming of course that BPD
Quote:
refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
perception. Get on the ball missus.

BPD may be, to some extent, a social construct. But so what? The
constellation of signs & symptoms are painful to the individual (and
people who interact with him/her) and are therefore deserving of
treatment if the person so desires.

I know you're opposed to psychiatry and meds, but are you also opposed
to people seeking psychological help for emotional distress?
marcia
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:29 pm
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On Feb 4, 3:15 pm, "Dr. Wee Hung Lo" <dr....@hocho.org> wrote:
Quote:
"John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:1170616665.999383.41700@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
: On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
:
: > Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a
lot
: > of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
:
: What makes you think BPD is there? That's assuming of course that BPD
: refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
: perception. Get on the ball missus.
:

"Get on the ball"???

Exactly what does this mean, it appears to be solely your private
perception.

Awww. My hero. Smile
Holly
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:08 pm
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On Feb 4, 2:21 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 4:42?pm, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:

On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. ?You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. ?Which would you prefer to have and why?

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.

Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.

That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. ?My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. ?BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How would these 'illnesses' or whatever way you perceive them, be a
choice if, like you implied, it is a social perception


JJ? jjjjjjjjjjjjJOHN JONES!!!!!! John Jones john jones john
joensssss!!!1!!!111! How are you and how are your sheep? OMG It was
you ... way back when. I thought so. And addis/appis?!!! What
fun. Smile)))) <vbs>
Holly
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:17 pm
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On Feb 4, 4:08 pm, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 2:21 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:





On Feb 4, 4:42?pm, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Feb 4, 10:03 am, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:

On Feb 4, 9:09 am, "Holly" <noon_un...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You're at the Mental Health Vending Machine in the "sky" and all the
good choices have been emptied out. ?You must have one to enter this
earthly plane. ?Which would you prefer to have and why?

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,
because I am too lazy to stalk people and rifle through their things
looking for suspicious "clues." Also, with BPD, there's a minor chance
people would consider you charming and tolerable at least *part* of
the time (maybe less likely for a paranoid-type disorder), and
slightly less likelihood that your negative behavior would land you in
jail or the graveyard.

Then again, maybe I'd just wait for the vending machine to be
restocked.

That would be the better choice, but I was interested in another's
perception on the matter. ?My answer would be different as long as I
could control the onset and the severity. ?BPD is life long whereas DD
jealous type generally happens after fifty and has been known to be
treated successfully, even to be short-lived.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How would these 'illnesses' or whatever way you perceive them, be a
choice if, like you implied, it is a social perception

JJ? jjjjjjjjjjjjJOHN JONES!!!!!! John Jones john jones john
joensssss!!!1!!!111! How are you and how are your sheep? OMG It was
you ... way back when. I thought so. And addis/appis?!!! What
fun. Smile)))) <vbs>- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

AND Uncle Festiva??? I am so owned. And that retired guy who was
building the sailboat in NC? And Toolie? Damnnnn. Isn't there Just
Onely 1 who is real.?
John Jones
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:38 pm
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 4263
On Feb 4, 8:19?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Feb 4, 2:17 pm, "John Jones" <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:

On Feb 4, 3:03?pm, "marcia" <desi...@insight.rr.com> wrote:

Nice set of choices, lol. Either way, it seems you would create a lot
of misery for yourself and others. I think I would pick BPD, though,

What makes you think BPD is there?

What makes me think BPD is *where*? Holly proposed it as a
**hypothetical** situation.

Don't you know how to play, John? Or are you fundamentally opposed to
that?

That's assuming of course that BPD

refers to something. But it doesn't, does it. It's simply a social
perception. Get on the ball missus.

BPD may be, to some extent, a social construct. But so what? The
constellation of signs & symptoms are painful to the individual (and
people who interact with him/her) and are therefore deserving of
treatment if the person so desires.

I know you're opposed to psychiatry and meds, but are you also opposed
to people seeking psychological help for emotional distress?

BPD is "symptoms" of what? BPD?

I don't think you know what "help" is in a psychological context. It
just sounds good.
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