Just wondering if there's some kind of cultural affinity Jews have with
the penis. Is it true that there's an old Yiddish saying along the
lines of "the penis keeps the peace in a household"??

Is there any such thing in Asian traditions? I don't mean merely them
Japanese sex woodcuts or the Kama Sutra from India. I'm talking about
the cultural obsession with the penis amongst Jews, and I'm wondering
why that is. I don't mean just phallic symbols, such as what's found
in ancient Greece and Rome, but this constant conversation about the
penis in our modern media.

Does it somehow have to do with the psychology of being circumcised?

(I'm serious. I know the whole thing sounds funny -- but I think an
alien from Mars would be similarly puzzled by all the attention on the
penis. Is there just a Jewish thing for the penis?)

Lived in a few different cultures and grew up amongst many. Obsession
with the penis is not especially a jewish thing. You gave a couple of
examples for why you decided this but they are hardly a case. The
Hindus have many sculptures of large penises seems to put them way
ahead of the Jews. And it could easily be argued that groups that are
more silent about penises have made them a taboo and therefore place
more importance, probably religious, on the thing. I don't feel like
building a case, but as far as I experienced penises, making them
bigger, having big ones, making sure they get hard, making things that
resemble them, denigrating people by denigrating their penises or lack
of them (women), worshipping them (openly or not), having jokes or
sayings or cultural rituals relatign in some ways to penises etc, is
pretty damn universal.
Prisoner at War wrote:
Just wondering if there's some kind of cultural affinity Jews have with
the penis. Is it true that there's an old Yiddish saying along the
lines of "the penis keeps the peace in a household"??

Is there any such thing in Asian traditions? I don't mean merely them
Japanese sex woodcuts or the Kama Sutra from India. I'm talking about
the cultural obsession with the penis amongst Jews, and I'm wondering
why that is. I don't mean just phallic symbols, such as what's found
in ancient Greece and Rome, but this constant conversation about the
penis in our modern media.

Does it somehow have to do with the psychology of being circumcised?

(I'm serious. I know the whole thing sounds funny -- but I think an
alien from Mars would be similarly puzzled by all the attention on the
penis. Is there just a Jewish thing for the penis?)

Is it true that there's an old Yiddish saying along the
lines of "the penis keeps the peace in a household"??

Just wondering if there's some kind of cultural affinity Jews have with
the penis. Is it true that there's an old Yiddish saying along the
lines of "the penis keeps the peace in a household"??

Is there any such thing in Asian traditions? I don't mean merely them
Japanese sex woodcuts or the Kama Sutra from India. I'm talking about
the cultural obsession with the penis amongst Jews, and I'm wondering
why that is. I don't mean just phallic symbols, such as what's found
in ancient Greece and Rome, but this constant conversation about the
penis in our modern media.

Does it somehow have to do with the psychology of being circumcised?

(I'm serious. I know the whole thing sounds funny -- but I think an
alien from Mars would be similarly puzzled by all the attention on the
penis. Is there just a Jewish thing for the penis?)

Circumcision is used in place of a human death sacrifice to a god. The
sacrifice is symbolically and experientially like that of being killed
in human sacrifice.

Prisoner at War wrote:

Just wondering if there's some kind of cultural affinity Jews have with
the penis. Is it true that there's an old Yiddish saying along the
lines of "the penis keeps the peace in a household"??

Is there any such thing in Asian traditions? I don't mean merely them
Japanese sex woodcuts or the Kama Sutra from India. I'm talking about
the cultural obsession with the penis amongst Jews, and I'm wondering
why that is. I don't mean just phallic symbols, such as what's found
in ancient Greece and Rome, but this constant conversation about the
penis in our modern media.

Does it somehow have to do with the psychology of being circumcised?

(I'm serious. I know the whole thing sounds funny -- but I think an
alien from Mars would be similarly puzzled by all the attention on the
penis. Is there just a Jewish thing for the penis?)

Circumcision is used in place of a human death sacrifice to a god. The
sacrifice is symbolically and experientially like that of being killed
in human sacrifice.

John Jones wrote:

Circumcision is used in place of a human death sacrifice to a god. The
sacrifice is symbolically and experientially like that of being killed
in human sacrifice.

Says who? Here's the Jewish explanation for circumcision, which is
performed in a ritual ceremony known as the Bris (Milah):

The word Bris means covenant; the word Milah, to cut.
Ritual circumcision is the covenant G-d has established with the Jewish
people through the commandment of circumcision.

Bris Milah
Judaism views body and soul as holy partners in serving G-d. Therefore,
the bris is performed on the most physical part, for all of man is holy
before his Creator. Bris Milah joins the forces of body and soul
together in serving G-d.

Why on the 8th day?
The kabbalistic writings teach us that seven days represent the
physical world of creation. Thus, when a child has lived for eight
days, he has transcended the physical to the metaphysical. The covenant
joining body and soul, physical and spiritual, can now take place. A
bris has no meaning when performed before the eighth day.

Luckily, no-one who can feel pain gets to have circumscion.

That's why
people chose to do it to babies.

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:27:36 -0800, John Jones wrote:

Luckily, no-one who can feel pain gets to have circumscion.

Tell that to my friend, who was thirteen when his mother re-found religion
and had him and his two brothers clipped.


That's why
people chose to do it to babies.

Right, because everyone knows babies don't feel pain.

John Jones wrote:

Circumcision is used in place of a human death sacrifice to a god. The
sacrifice is symbolically and experientially like that of being killed
in human sacrifice.

Says who? Here's the Jewish explanation for circumcision, which is
performed in a ritual ceremony known as the Bris (Milah):

The word Bris means covenant; the word Milah, to cut.
Ritual circumcision is the covenant G-d has established with the Jewish
people through the commandment of circumcision.

Bris Milah
Judaism views body and soul as holy partners in serving G-d. Therefore,
the bris is performed on the most physical part, for all of man is holy
before his Creator. Bris Milah joins the forces of body and soul
together in serving G-d.

Why on the 8th day?
The kabbalistic writings teach us that seven days represent the
physical world of creation. Thus, when a child has lived for eight
days, he has transcended the physical to the metaphysical. The covenant
joining body and soul, physical and spiritual, can now take place. A
bris has no meaning when performed before the eighth day.

A bris has no meaning when performed before the eighth day.

marcia skrev:
A bris has no meaning when performed before the eighth day.

I think I will start a religion that says you should slap your kid
around on the equinox, so the kid remembers what it is like when there
is cosmic balance. Or maybe I'll come up with a more complicated
justification for hurting babies.

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:27:36 -0800, John Jones wrote:

Luckily, no-one who can feel pain gets to have circumscion.

Tell that to my friend, who was thirteen when his mother re-found religion
and had him and his two brothers clipped.


That's why
people chose to do it to babies.

Right, because everyone knows babies don't feel pain.