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Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism
By Evelyn Pringle
www.scoop.co.nz
January 29, 2007
Miamisburg Ohio
To what degree of scientific certainty can we prove that current epidemic of
autism was caused by the mercury-based preservative, thimerosal, in
childhood vaccines?
In response to this question, David Ayoub, MD, told Independent Media TV,
''I can state that the certainty of the science supporting mercury as a
major cause of autism is probably more overpowering than the science behind
any other disease process that I studied dating back to medical school.''
"I think a disease that effects more individuals than AIDS or cancer, in
previously normal infants and children," he states, "has created a sense of
urgency amongst researchers."
According to Ayoub, "A growing number of experimental, epidemiological and
biochemical research, has unequivocally shown that mercury is directly
linked to the development of autism spectrum disorders and is significantly
toxic to the gastrointestinal, immunological, metabolic and neurobiological
systems in children."
"The science of causality is known and understood down to the manner in
which mercury impairs the neural pathways of attention," he adds, "I really
don't see the need for more research to prove causality." He believes the
focus should be "directed towards methods to remove mercury from the body
and repairing those biochemical systems that are injured by mercury."
Ayoub is the Director of the Prairie Collaborative for Immunization, an
organization that is self-funded, which aids organizations, journalists, and
legislators obtain accurate information to assist their work. He is also the
author of the report, "Pregnancy and the Myth of Influenza Vaccination-Is it
safe, is it effective, is it necessary? What the CDC documents reveal."
Vaccines With Thimerosal
When asked what vaccines still contain the mercury-based, thimerosal, Ayoub
said, "The major culprit today is the influenza vaccine." About 80% of flu
vaccines contain as much as 25 micrograms of mercury per dose. Since the EPA
has set a limit of 0.1 mcg/kg (1 kg =2.2 lbs), Ayoub warns, everyone who
receives the vaccine will be overdosed.
He explained that in 1999, "the Public Health Service (including the CDC and
FDA), the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed
that thimerosal levels in vaccines should be reduced or eliminated."
However, he adds, "Contradicting its own policy, the CDC then increased
mercury exposure to the fetus and infant by allowing the inoculation of
pregnant women and young infants with the mercury-containing influenza
vaccine."
On May 28, 2004, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice of the CDC
released its annual report with recommendations for the prevention of
influenza. The report included pregnant women amongst those who should
receive the flu vaccine, even though the report noted only a minimal benefit
from the vaccine in pregnant women:
"Researchers estimate that an average of 1-2 hospitalizations can be
prevented for every 1,000 pregnant women vaccinated" (1, page 10)
In fact, for the 2003-04 flu season, the CDC reported "only 3 to 14% of
those who got vaccinated were protected against the flu." It seems overly
aggressive, Ayoub maintains, for the CDC to recommend that all pregnant
women be vaccinated when, in fact, scientific data to date shows only
marginal benefits and the only documented benefit seems to be fewer
hospitalizations, not fewer morbidities or mortalities.
The benefit of influenza vaccination during pregnancy becomes even more
questionable when considering the resulting risks to unborn infants.
According to the ACIP, the safety of influenza vaccination is established by
the following research:
One study of influenza vaccination of 2,000 pregnant women demonstrated no
adverse fetal effects associated with influenza vaccine."
However, according to Ayoub, "In the April 12, 2002 MMWR, this same
statement was followed by the caveat "additional data are needed to confirm
the safety of vaccination during pregnancy." The comment was then dropped
from the CDC's 2004 version of the report, but no new safety data was cited.
This solitary reference cited to establish influenza vaccine safety was
co-authored by researchers at Boston University in 1973, but Ayoub advises
that, "Upon closer inspection ... the study appears to have very little to
do with influenza vaccine safety, but rather that of polio vaccination
safety during pregnancy."
It is inexplicable, Ayoub says, that the ACIP would cite a paper in support
of its conclusion of influenza vaccine safety while the Institute of
Medicine rejected the same paper on the basis of the flawed analysis of
polio vaccine safety.
Few doctors realize that most flu vaccines contain 25 micrograms of mercury
per dose. Both the EPA and FDA's allowable daily exposure limits are 0.1
microgram per kg, meaning that recipients of a flu vaccine must weigh at
least 550 pounds to meet federal exposure guidelines.
Therefore, by injecting the mother, the fetus would receive a dose of
mercury that exceeds the federal limits by several hundred-fold.
Furthermore, Ayoub adds, all federal guidelines are based upon studies of
exposure tolerances in adults, not a fetus.
He questions why the CDC is so certain that ethylmercury can be safely
injected into children or pregnant women, when the FDA and EPA have stated
that ingestion of methylmercury can have harmful effects on the fetus, with
warnings such as:
"some fish and shellfish contain higher levels of mercury that may harm an
unborn baby or young child's developing nervous system. . . . Therefore, the
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA) are advising women who may become pregnant, pregnant women, nursing
mothers, and young children to avoid some types of fish and eat fish and
shellfish that are lower in mercury. . . While it is true that the primary
danger from methylmercury in fish is to the developing nervous system of the
unborn child, it is prudent for nursing mothers and young children not to
eat these fish as well."
More recent studies have detailed the life-long damage of mercury to the
brains of unborn children. For instance, on Feb 28, 2005, the Associated
Press reported, "Lower IQ levels linked to mercury exposure in the womb
costs the United States $8.7 billion a year in lost earnings potential,
according to a study released Monday by researchers at a New York hospital."
The Mount Sinai Center for Children's Health and the Environment combined a
number of previous studies to determine hundreds of thousands of babies are
born every year with lower IQ associated with mercury exposure, according to
AP.
Lead researcher and pediatician, Leonard Trasande, reports that annually,
between 316,588 and 637,233 infants are born with umbilical cord blood
mecury levels linked to IQ loss.
As an example, Trasande said each year, about 4% of babies are with blood
mercury levels between 7.13 and 15 micrograms per liter. That level of
mercury causes an IQ loss of 1.6 points, the researchers concluded.
A 1.6 point drop in IQ could cost a person more than $31,000 in potential
earnings over a lifetime, the study calculated, due to missed educational
opportunities or jobs.
Manufacturers of the flu vaccine themselves, include package inserts that
admit adequate studies have not been conducted on this vaccine. For example,
the Fluzone insert stated:
"Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza Virus
Vaccine. It is not known whether Influenza Virus Vaccine can cause fetal
harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction
capacity."
Considering the rapid growth of autism, and other related neurodevelopmental
disorders, and the number of reports documenting the causal relationship to
mercury-based preservatives, Ayoub advises, "influenza vaccines should not
be administered to pregnant women, and perhaps other high-risk groups,
especially young children."
Why Would FDA & CDC Approve Mercury-Based Vaccines?
Ayoub believes that the CDC and FDA embrace marginal research and
unsupported policies because of conflicts of interests. It may come as a
surprise to most physicians, he explains, "that the CDC has a built-in
conflict of interest with regards to its dual role in vaccine policy." One
limb of the CDC that oversees vaccine safety has a budget of approximately
$30 million, while the limb that promotes vaccine usage (ACIP and NIP) has a
$1 billion budget, he says.
The CDC and FDA policy decisions are made through physician advisory panels
whose members often have financial relationships with the very same
pharmaceutical companies that they are supposed to regulate.
For example, during a congressional hearing on potential conflicts of
interests at the FDA, it was revealed that 60% of the advisory members who
voted to approve the poisonous rotavirus vaccine had financial ties to the
drug companies manufacturing the vaccine. The committee also found that 50%
of the CDC members were tied to the rotavirus makers.
However, according to Ayoub, the CDC and FDA do not have exclusive rights in
coddling the industry. An investigation of doctors involved in co-authoring
forty-four different Clinical Practice Guidelines for drug companies found:
85% of guideline authors have some sort of relationships with drug
companies, and they are often not disclosed
38% of respondents said they had served as employees or consultants for drug
companies; 58% received research money
59% had links with drug companies whose medications were considered in the
particular guidelines they authored, almost all cases predating the
guideline creation process
These numbers may be even greater, as only 52% of authors responded
"Most clinicians would be surprised by these revelations which challenge the
blanket trust of a healthcare governance with uncomfortably close ties to
the pharmaceutical industry," Ayoub says.
Available Treatment For Autism
When asked what treatments are available for autism, Ayoub said "The buzz
these days is chelation," but there is no short answer to this. Suffice it
to say, there are 2 ways to get mercury out of the body - one is pull it out
directly by chelation agents."
The 2 top chelation people in the world are Gary Gordon, MD, and Rashid
Buttar, MD, he adds.
Chelation agents such as DMPS and DTPA, are given orally, by IV, and
recently with transdermal as a cream. According to Ayoub, the agents
essentially bind free blood or loosely bound heavy metal agents, and
eliminate them through stool and urine. They lower the total body burden and
allow for natural redistribution from brain to blood for further removal.
Ayoub claims side effects are uncommon, and the process is far safer than a
vaccine.
The other method of removing mercury from the body is through a variety of
biomedical therapies, all dietary or supplemental, "most of which act to
jumps start the bodies own internal mercury detoxification pathways," Ayoub
explains, but "the science here is very sophisticated," he added.
However, unfortunately, "many parents read about a diet or supplement, try
one or two therapies on their own and fail," he says, and that "treatment is
very dependent upon the experience of the health care provider, critically
so," he advises.
Why The Constant Denial?
Ayoub was asked why government agencies and the pharmaceutical industry, are
working so hard to keep the truth about the mercury-autism link hidden. He
says it is a long story, but the main reason is because if they admitted
guilt, it would mean the government agencies, drug companies and medical
organizations, "have taken part in the largest iatrogenic epidemic known to
man."
The fallout over admission of causality would be unprecedented, Ayoub adds.
The lost confidence in American medicine would likely cause people to turn
to alternative methods of medicine, and a rise in deeper investigation might
reveal the truth about other suppressions related to cancer therapy,
hypertension Rx, or Atherosclerosis.
Ayoub told Independent Media, "This is really the tip of the iceberg and I
see a waterfall effect."
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(Evelyn Pringle is a columnist with Independent Media TV and an
investigative journalist focused on exposing corruption in government)
Ayoub spoke at the AutismOne conference in Chicago in 2004, and will appear
at the conference again in May, 2005. His CD-ROM titled, "Science and
Politics of Vaccine-Induced Autism," contains resource materials and was
distributed at the DAN! conference in LA last fall. David M Ayoub MD, The
Prairie Collaborative for Immunization Safety Email Raypoke@mac.com
Original story can be found here:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0503/S00089.htm |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:19 am |
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JOHN wrote:
Quote: Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism
By Evelyn Pringle
www.scoop.co.nz
January 29, 2007
Miamisburg Ohio
To what degree of scientific certainty can we prove that current epidemic of
autism was caused by the mercury-based preservative, thimerosal, in
childhood vaccines?
We can't, because thimerosal does not cause autism.
Quote: In response to this question, David Ayoub, MD,
Oooh, now there's a reliable source of information.... NOT.
Quote: told Independent Media TV,
''I can state that the certainty of the science supporting mercury as a
major cause of autism is probably more overpowering than the science behind
any other disease process that I studied dating back to medical school.''
"I think a disease that effects more individuals than AIDS or cancer, in
previously normal infants and children," he states, "has created a sense of
urgency amongst researchers."
According to Ayoub, "A growing number of experimental, epidemiological and
biochemical research, has unequivocally shown that mercury is directly
linked to the development of autism spectrum disorders and is significantly
toxic to the gastrointestinal, immunological, metabolic and neurobiological
systems in children."
Yep, according to Ayoub. According to the rest of the planet, research
shows exactly the opposite
(http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/07/still_more_evidence_that_vaccines_dont_c_1.php)
Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines and autims numbers are still
not going down. Maybe it is pasteurized milk after all. Or iPods.
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"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote:
Quote: Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism
By Evelyn Pringle
www.scoop.co.nz
January 29, 2007
Miamisburg Ohio
To what degree of scientific certainty can we prove that current epidemic of
autism was caused by the mercury-based preservative, thimerosal, in
childhood vaccines?
In response to this question, David Ayoub, MD, told Independent Media TV,
''I can state that the certainty of the science supporting mercury as a
major cause of autism is probably more overpowering than the science behind
any other disease process that I studied dating back to medical school.''
Just shows how little he studied, doesn't it?
Quote:
"I think a disease that effects more individuals than AIDS or cancer, in
previously normal infants and children," he states, "has created a sense of
urgency amongst researchers."
According to Ayoub, "A growing number of experimental, epidemiological and
biochemical research, has unequivocally shown that mercury is directly
linked to the development of autism spectrum disorders and is significantly
toxic to the gastrointestinal, immunological, metabolic and neurobiological
systems in children."
But he can't cite the research, can he?
No matter how many times a lie is written, it is still a lie.
<snip lies>
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JOHN wrote:
It's noted that you too can not cite the research that absolutely proves
your point. Could that be because that research does not exist and David
Ayoub simply pulls his claims from where the sun don't shine? Could it? |
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"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:Y42dnSBSipVurSLYnZ2dnUVZ8taknZ2d@bt.com...
Quote: Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism
By Evelyn Pringle
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Pringle is a paid mouthpiece for personal injury lawyers... the folks who
have most to gain financially from this scaremongering.
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070129006452&newsLang=en
"STANFORD, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sifting through the pages of newspapers,
most people reading stories about autism would think scientists are
primarily grappling with understanding how environmental factors, such as
childhood vaccines, might contribute to the condition.
"But the truth is quite different. The efforts of the scientific community
to explore autism lie predominantly in brain and behavior research.
"This disconnect between the scientific community and the popular media is
starkly laid out in a study published in the February issue of Nature
Reviews Neuroscience by researchers at the Stanford University School of
Medicine.
"The researchers found that while 41 percent of research funding and
published scientific papers on autism dealt with brain and behavior
research, only 11 percent of newspaper stories in the United States, United
Kingdom and Canada dealt with those issues. Instead, 48 percent of the media
coverage dealt with environmental causes of autism, particularly the
childhood MMR vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella that was once linked
with autism in a widely refuted study. Only 13 percent of published research
was about environmental triggers of autism. " .... |
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"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism
By Evelyn Pringle
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Pringle is a paid mouthpiece for personal injury lawyers... the folks who
have most to gain financially from this scaremongering.
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070129006452&newsLang=en
"STANFORD, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sifting through the pages of newspapers,
most people reading stories about autism would think scientists are
primarily grappling with understanding how environmental factors, such as
childhood vaccines, might contribute to the condition.
"But the truth is quite different. The efforts of the scientific community
to explore autism lie predominantly in brain and behavior research.
"This disconnect between the scientific community and the popular media is
starkly laid out in a study published in the February issue of Nature
Reviews Neuroscience by researchers at the Stanford University School of
Medicine.
"The researchers found that while 41 percent of research funding and
published scientific papers on autism dealt with brain and behavior
research, only 11 percent of newspaper stories in the United States, United
Kingdom and Canada dealt with those issues. Instead, 48 percent of the media
coverage dealt with environmental causes of autism, particularly the
childhood MMR vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella that was once linked
with autism in a widely refuted study. Only 13 percent of published research
was about environmental triggers of autism. " ....
But even Pringle denies the MMR-autism link. That fact is obvious from
the statement "Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism".
Ray Gallup from the Autism Autoimmunity project (the man who "knows"
precisely how I receive my fees from Big Pharma) has made a similar
claim, where he has said that his child's autism could not possibly be
caused by anything other than MMR. I wrote to him thanking him for his
acknowledgement of the harmlessness of thimerosal but he didn't reply.
I hope that the lack of reply was because he was busy rather than that
he is a hypocrite.
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Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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Ray Gallup from the Autism Autoimmunity project (the man who "knows"
precisely how I receive my fees from Big Pharma) has made a similar
claim, where he has said that his child's autism could not possibly be
caused by anything other than MMR. I wrote to him thanking him for his
acknowledgement of the harmlessness of thimerosal but he didn't reply.
I hope that the lack of reply was because he was busy rather than that
he is a hypocrite.
MMR and mercury vaccines both cause autism. I know you vaccine trolls like
to play around with this as it is the only straw you can get hold off, straw
man, bit of |
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"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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Ray Gallup from the Autism Autoimmunity project (the man who "knows"
precisely how I receive my fees from Big Pharma) has made a similar
claim, where he has said that his child's autism could not possibly be
caused by anything other than MMR. I wrote to him thanking him for his
acknowledgement of the harmlessness of thimerosal but he didn't reply.
I hope that the lack of reply was because he was busy rather than that
he is a hypocrite.
MMR and mercury vaccines both cause autism. I know you vaccine trolls
like to play around with this as it is the only straw you can get hold
off, straw man, bit of
Evidence?
Evidence from sources not paid for by lawyers, please. |
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"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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Ray Gallup from the Autism Autoimmunity project (the man who "knows"
precisely how I receive my fees from Big Pharma) has made a similar
claim, where he has said that his child's autism could not possibly be
caused by anything other than MMR. I wrote to him thanking him for his
acknowledgement of the harmlessness of thimerosal but he didn't reply.
I hope that the lack of reply was because he was busy rather than that
he is a hypocrite.
MMR and mercury vaccines both cause autism. I know you vaccine trolls like
to play around with this as it is the only straw you can get hold off, straw
man, bit of
No, John - Gallup said that MMR was the only possible cause. If MMR is
the only possible cause, then there is no other possible cause. that's
what the word "only" means.
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Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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No, John - Gallup said that MMR was the only possible cause. If MMR is
the only possible cause, then there is no other possible cause. that's
what the word "only" means.
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does he speak for me, didn't know that, and I don't believe you anyway, show
us his words |
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"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote:
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No, John - Gallup said that MMR was the only possible cause. If MMR is
the only possible cause, then there is no other possible cause. that's
what the word "only" means.
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does he speak for me, didn't know that, and I don't believe you anyway, show
us his words
The original claim by Gallup was made in a letter to a newspaper in or
around March, 2005. I will try to find out where I read it, but my
best guess is that it would have been on some anti-vaccination liar
mailing list.
In the meantime, here is Ray Gallup blaming MMR and only MMR for his
son's autism:
Our son, Eric was born normal on January 17, 1985 and regressed into
Autism after receiving the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine on
April 28, 1986. In 1995, we found out that that Eric tested positive
for myelin basic protein antibodies, elevated measles antibody titers
and T-cell abnormalities. Vijendra Singh, PhD of Utah State University
and Jim Oleske, MD of UMDNJ, Newark, NJ found these results in immune
panel blood tests done on Eric. In 1998, Joel Rosh, MD found that Eric
had colitis and in 2002, Arthur Krigsman, MD found the same along with
a quarter-size painful stomach tissue in Eric's esophagus. In looking
back at our videotapes of Eric we saw Eric progressing and meeting the
developmental milestones until he got the MMR shot and then we lost
him to regressive autism.
In case you want to read it in context, it's at
http://www.whale.to/a/eric.html
I realise that this might not be a credible web site and you might be
unfamiliar with it, but at least I tried.
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Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
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In the meantime, here is Ray Gallup blaming MMR and only MMR for his
son's autism:
Our son, Eric was born normal on January 17, 1985 and regressed into
Autism after receiving the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine on
April 28, 1986. In 1995, we found out that that Eric tested positive
for myelin basic protein antibodies, elevated measles antibody titers
and T-cell abnormalities. Vijendra Singh, PhD of Utah State University
and Jim Oleske, MD of UMDNJ, Newark, NJ found these results in immune
panel blood tests done on Eric. In 1998, Joel Rosh, MD found that Eric
had colitis and in 2002, Arthur Krigsman, MD found the same along with
a quarter-size painful stomach tissue in Eric's esophagus. In looking
back at our videotapes of Eric we saw Eric progressing and meeting the
developmental milestones until he got the MMR shot and then we lost
him to regressive autism.
In case you want to read it in context, it's at
http://www.whale.to/a/eric.html
I realise that this might not be a credible web site and you might be
unfamiliar with it, but at least I tried.
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So what? MMR can cause autism, that doesn't mean mercury doesn't
various different poisons cause polio, meningits etc
but you don't get poisons which is why you promote them |
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"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote:
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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In the meantime, here is Ray Gallup blaming MMR and only MMR for his
son's autism:
Our son, Eric was born normal on January 17, 1985 and regressed into
Autism after receiving the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine on
April 28, 1986. In 1995, we found out that that Eric tested positive
for myelin basic protein antibodies, elevated measles antibody titers
and T-cell abnormalities. Vijendra Singh, PhD of Utah State University
and Jim Oleske, MD of UMDNJ, Newark, NJ found these results in immune
panel blood tests done on Eric. In 1998, Joel Rosh, MD found that Eric
had colitis and in 2002, Arthur Krigsman, MD found the same along with
a quarter-size painful stomach tissue in Eric's esophagus. In looking
back at our videotapes of Eric we saw Eric progressing and meeting the
developmental milestones until he got the MMR shot and then we lost
him to regressive autism.
In case you want to read it in context, it's at
http://www.whale.to/a/eric.html
I realise that this might not be a credible web site and you might be
unfamiliar with it, but at least I tried.
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So what? MMR can cause autism, that doesn't mean mercury doesn't
various different poisons cause polio, meningits etc
but you don't get poisons which is why you promote them
But John, you wanted to know where you could see Ray Gallup blaming
MMR and only MMR for HIS SON'S autism. I showed you somewhere where he
is quoted as saying this. If whale.to isn't a reliable reference
source, perhaps you should stop citing it so often yourself.
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Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote in message
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But John, you wanted to know where you could see Ray Gallup blaming
MMR and only MMR for HIS SON'S autism. I showed you somewhere where he
is quoted as saying this. If whale.to isn't a reliable reference
source, perhaps you should stop citing it so often yourself.
who cares what he thinks, MMR obviously caused his sons MMR
MMR and mercury cause autism http://www.whale.to/vaccines/vax_autism_q.html |
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