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| Mockingbird |
 Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:45 am |
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OK, so I thought 3rd man would really appreciate the following story.
This story, in a nutshell, explains why I am so disturbed wrt women. I
can barely speak normally to a woman I find attractive...or even
unattractive...and the instances cited below are just one part of the
puzzle...
Guess what? Surprise! Women abuse men. It happens. More generally,
people abuse people, I say that because I myself in the long ago past
have also done things {like most everyone} emotionally within
male/female relationships that I later regretted.
Now, let's rewind a little bit. Say, oh 6.5 years ago. I was involved
in a mutually destructive relationship. I'm not saying I was innocent,
but I didn't cheat on the person...at the time, I was pretty ill. I
shouldn't have been in a relationship, but it seemed appealing because
I was isolated from my family who, while controlling my finances, were
being told by numerous MDs that my problems were due to either
munchausens, various somataform disorders, uh, the consequences of
temporal lobe epilepsy {which I had been dxd with mistakenly by some of
the best neurologists in the world}, all sorts of sh-t. I was schizoid.
whatever. There were a number of things they were told, but none of
them hit on the truth, which I didn't know at the time but was
desperately searching.
So I lived in this crappy apartment, pretended to go to school, was
searching for answers, and I met this gal. Let's call her 'X'. 'X'
cheated on me numerous times...about 6 months into the relationship,
'X' in the course of an argument, admitted to having sex with one of my
best friends. It should have, but that didn't even bother me. That's
how pre-occupied I was with my health and with hanging on to the only
person who I felt cared about me. Now, during this time period I had
begun to decipher and prove to others the real nature of my health
probs. It started with my pituitary gland. I finally got someone to
listen and test, and guess what? It was f-d up. So I
felt..well...justified...in that I was finally turning up answers. But
there was a lot more to it than that and I knew this.
There were several other instances of 'X' cheating on me...uh, for
instance the rumor got around that she was sleeping with person 'Y',
which I later confirmed by catching her during a barbecue making out
with person 'Y', by the way, a nice guy who was also sort of a
friend...Did I drop her? No. I should have, but again, that was the
only person I had. She continued her denials, or admitted various
affairs but promised they wouldn't happen again even though her
promises were empty and meaningless. So it just went on and on. the
cheating continued and I caught her in various lies and such...let's
skip over a lot of it and just jump to the worst instance. So I went
out to the bar one night with 'X' and some friends...I don't really
drink, btw. anyway, 'X' snuck off to a nearby bar. Near the end of the
night, I finally went over to the bar to get her and take her home. I
found 'X' dancing with and otherwise entertaining a group of guys...3
or 4, don't remember the exact number. I asked 'X' if she was ready to
go, and 'X' informed me, right in front of my friends, that she was
going over to these guys house, and I was not invited. She then left
with this group of guys.
I didn't know who these people were, or where they lived. I spent a
tortured night alternating between my apartment and driving around town
searching for what was basically an unknown location. Finally I went
back to my apartment and essentially cried for 2 hours. I was unable to
sleep. Around 7:30 am, I get a knock on my door. guess what? It's 'X',
she's been dropped off at my apartment by her new guy friends. Yes,
that really fucking happened. The next few hours were likely the most
pathetic, or among the most pathetic, of my entire life. I begged her
to stay with me and she agreed, even while admitting to me that she had
spent the night being gang banged by a group of what she described as 2
or 3 but I later discovered to be 6 guys.
And how did I discover this? Well, this particular relationship ended
about 7 or 8 months later, uh, again after serial cheating. Some time
later...about a year say...after we finally broke up...I'm back at the
bar with a couple of friends. I'm sitting outside at a table, and this
random guy I've never met before saunters up, he's drunk. He proceeds
to introduce himself and tells me where he is from...the same town that
'X' is from...I ask him if he knows 'X', and he proceeds to tell me a
story about the night 'X' was gang-banged by a group of his friends
because whoever 'X's boyfriend was was struggling with health problems
and was unable to keep up with her sexually.
I then intervened and said 'dude, you're talking about me.'
Talk about awkward moments...he excused himself and that's the last
time he ever spoke to me.
Uh, you know so this shit went on and it was pretty extreme and it was
related to my health problems...and these are issues especially as
regards hormone problems and general lyme-related health probs which
have repeatedly caused me issues over the past 5 years. It has been
more than 5 years now since I was intimate with a woman. there's a lot
more to it than that, but I thought 3rd man especially might appreciate
this insight into my psychological background.
Another insight - practically the only meaningful relationship I have
with a female now is with an old girlfriend, I dated her ~4 years and
she left me, oh this goes back about 8 or 9 years,while I was in the
midst of a lot of problems which included the occasional or as it may
be months-long psychotic/delusional episode. I have to give her some
credit, because she stuck with me through a lot of shit no one else
would have...we wanted to get married, and name our kids Oscar and
Sylvia. that never happened, she married another guy and now they have
a kid. and I get to hear all about their great life. here's the life
you could have had, if you hadn't been fucked by the system. I just
want to add to that, I'm not into her anymore like I was...but it
causes me some issues, yes. I also realize that shitty things happen to
people all of the time. So I manage to keep going, in part, by reading
the news and realizing it could always be worse. Although I feel like
shit at the moment.
So, there you have it 3rd man, in a nutshell, that's why I am so
cynical about women. In sickness and in health? that's just a big load
of shit. Women are all about money, ambition, big dicks, and
manipulating people, sometimes for completely unfathomable reasons. |
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| the 3rd Man |
| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:06 pm |
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Mockingbird wrote:
Quote: OK, so I thought 3rd man would really appreciate the following story.
Really, you couldn't be more wrong.
Quote: So, there you have it 3rd man, in a nutshell, that's why I am so
cynical about women. In sickness and in health? that's just a big load
of shit. Women are all about money, ambition, big dicks, and
manipulating people, sometimes for completely unfathomable reasons.
Shouldn't you have saved this one for Valentine's Day? |
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| the 3rd Man |
| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:19 pm |
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Mockingbird wrote:
Quote: OK, so I thought 3rd man would really appreciate the following story.
Well, you are really, really wrong, there.
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So, there you have it 3rd man, in a nutshell, that's why I am so
cynical about women. In sickness and in health? that's just a big load
of shit. Women are all about money, ambition, big dicks, and
manipulating people, sometimes for completely unfathomable reasons.
That's nice.
Shouldn't you have saved this one for Valentine's Day?
Look...I ain't exactly "Dear Abby"...but from what you describe, it
sort of sounds like you were looking for a committed partner...a
relationship...and she was interested in everything...and everyone...
else...
....do you sense a conflict, there, perhaps? Different expectations,
perhaps?
I really think these sort of things are something you should consider
discussing with your therapist. (and NOT here).
But...I have to tell you that I really do NOT lay awake worrying about
your love life. Sorry.
Personally, if you are anything in person like your caustic and abusive
personality on this board...then I don't find it the least bit
surprising that you have problems interacting with the opposite sex (or
humans, in general)(and you project an incredibly infantile and
immature attitude toward the subject of sex, itself, in my opinion).
I sort of tried to counsel you to not be so pre-occupied with the
subject...as you are still apparently young...and have plenty of time.
You need, in my opinion, to be confident in yourself and be able to
GIVE to a relationship...in order to have a good relationship...you
clearly are NOT in that position, right now...
You are not the first person to ever get dumped on by a woman, junior.
Probably the thing to do would be to blame it on Lyme disease. |
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| Mockingbird |
| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:39 pm |
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I know what you're up to and who your really are and all of that shit!
The more people f-k with me, the more they tell me, the more I figure
out!
I actually think you're a great guy!
the 3rd Man wrote:
Quote: Mockingbird wrote:
OK, so I thought 3rd man would really appreciate the following story.
Well, you are really, really wrong, there.
So, there you have it 3rd man, in a nutshell, that's why I am so
cynical about women. In sickness and in health? that's just a big load
of shit. Women are all about money, ambition, big dicks, and
manipulating people, sometimes for completely unfathomable reasons.
That's nice.
Shouldn't you have saved this one for Valentine's Day?
Look...I ain't exactly "Dear Abby"...but from what you describe, it
sort of sounds like you were looking for a committed partner...a
relationship...and she was interested in everything...and everyone...
else...
...do you sense a conflict, there, perhaps? Different expectations,
perhaps?
I really think these sort of things are something you should consider
discussing with your therapist. (and NOT here).
But...I have to tell you that I really do NOT lay awake worrying about
your love life. Sorry.
Personally, if you are anything in person like your caustic and abusive
personality on this board...then I don't find it the least bit
surprising that you have problems interacting with the opposite sex (or
humans, in general)(and you project an incredibly infantile and
immature attitude toward the subject of sex, itself, in my opinion).
I sort of tried to counsel you to not be so pre-occupied with the
subject...as you are still apparently young...and have plenty of time.
You need, in my opinion, to be confident in yourself and be able to
GIVE to a relationship...in order to have a good relationship...you
clearly are NOT in that position, right now...
You are not the first person to ever get dumped on by a woman, junior.
Probably the thing to do would be to blame it on Lyme disease. |
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| Mockingbird |
| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:25 pm |
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OK...well I've clearly hit on some unpleasant areas...let's return to
my uncle...do you really think that someone who sends me a $50 gift
certificate for bed bath and beyond as a christmas present actually
gives a shit about my health?
there's not a bed bath and beyond within 90 miles!
on a serious note...do you think we could ever actually be friends? or,
at least, have an improved relationship...let's say I treated you with
more respect...the respect you are due...assuming you are due respect,
of course. I'm not saying that you're deserving of any respect, I'm
just saying it's one of zillions of possibilities including the
possibility that you are a strawberry cream-filled silicone twinkie!
the 3rd Man wrote:
Quote: Mockingbird wrote:
you mean...you can find people who will attest to the fact that you're
not a great guy? why would you want to do that?
Truth, junior...truth.
(It's called self-deprecating, humor, I think). |
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| the 3rd Man |
| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:04 pm |
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Mockingbird wrote:
Quote: OK...well I've clearly hit on some unpleasant areas...let's return to
my uncle...do you really think that someone who sends me a $50 gift
certificate for bed bath and beyond as a christmas present actually
gives a shit about my health?
I don't know...is this the uncle with the med/science connection?
Maybe he is waiting for you to ASK him? Don't you think he would
respond to that?
Hell, I don't know...(but I wish I had a resource like that...I sure as
hell would use it)...
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there's not a bed bath and beyond within 90 miles!
It's the thought that counts...it really is...seems like he was
acknowledging you, at least.
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on a serious note...do you think we could ever actually be friends? or,
at least, have an improved relationship...let's say I treated you with
more respect...the respect you are due...assuming you are due respect,
of course. I'm not saying that you're deserving of any respect, I'm
just saying it's one of zillions of possibilities including the
possibility that you are a strawberry cream-filled silicone twinkie!
As I have said before, several times, I try to treat others and
interact with others in the manner they have treated me. For some
reason, I was looking at some old posts the other day, and I ran across
some absolutely brutal and vulgar assaults on myself...from
you...apparently because you decided via your 'psychic friends'
connections that I was someone who I am not.
I am really sick of this 'forum' and this "debate". All that's left
here are a couple of people with serious mental/emotional issues
obsessively harranguing each other. It's ugly and it is NOT healthy or
helpful...to anyone.
So far as the legal issues go...well, those are in Blumenthal's lap,
now, aren't they? And I assume that everyone is going to live with
whatever direction his office decides to take.
You see? Nothing left for me to say.
If, as I suspect, nothing whatever comes from it...from Blumenthal's
'investigation'...then those who are disappointed with that result can
(and probably will) argue against his inaction.
I'm "out". Done.
I only responded today because you addressed me directly.
I am sorry you are having a tough go of it, right now.
I really am. |
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| Mockingbird |
| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:04 pm |
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I have no interest in the blumenthal investigation, I was not
discussing that! I've repeatedly said that...oh fuck it, I don't want
to touch that sh-t anymore.
You know, I am aware that I posted some nasty mean naughtiness which I
honestly regret posting. You can trust me on that.
Uh, someday I hope to correspond with you in a meaningful manner and
{a} genuinely apologize for my disgusting behavior and {b} inform you
on some events and instances which will unquestionably cause you great
amusement. things that happened involving me and only me, so no one
else could possibly know about them, unless they could read my mind
while simultaneously observing me from a reconnaisance satellite. A
possibility, I might add, that I'm not excluding.
I am not the person I may appear to be, OK? And there are things about
me you don't know, you can't know...crucial details...it's very very
frustrating, because I can't post those things. and I really don't
think that anyone knows them, if they did, certain things wouldn't have
happened.
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as far as the xmas present goes...in the past, I've always gotten a
barnes and noble certificate. why? because they know I like to read.
without books, my life would be totally empty. I have a really cool
book collection.
bed bath and beyond? sure, it's the thought that counts. but my aunt is
very passive aggressive and I think she's sending me a subtle
message...ie...you need to clean up your act. when I was a kid, she
actually washed my mouth out with soap when she caught me cursing {I
started cursing at the age of 4...I got involved with the wrong crowd
in preschool}
I'm sending her a packet of toilet paper for her next birthday when it
comes around. that's how it is with me. I wonder what you'll be getting
for your birthday?
the 3rd Man wrote:
Quote: Mockingbird wrote:
OK...well I've clearly hit on some unpleasant areas...let's return to
my uncle...do you really think that someone who sends me a $50 gift
certificate for bed bath and beyond as a christmas present actually
gives a shit about my health?
I don't know...is this the uncle with the med/science connection?
Maybe he is waiting for you to ASK him? Don't you think he would
respond to that?
Hell, I don't know...(but I wish I had a resource like that...I sure as
hell would use it)...
there's not a bed bath and beyond within 90 miles!
It's the thought that counts...it really is...seems like he was
acknowledging you, at least.
on a serious note...do you think we could ever actually be friends? or,
at least, have an improved relationship...let's say I treated you with
more respect...the respect you are due...assuming you are due respect,
of course. I'm not saying that you're deserving of any respect, I'm
just saying it's one of zillions of possibilities including the
possibility that you are a strawberry cream-filled silicone twinkie!
As I have said before, several times, I try to treat others and
interact with others in the manner they have treated me. For some
reason, I was looking at some old posts the other day, and I ran across
some absolutely brutal and vulgar assaults on myself...from
you...apparently because you decided via your 'psychic friends'
connections that I was someone who I am not.
I am really sick of this 'forum' and this "debate". All that's left
here are a couple of people with serious mental/emotional issues
obsessively harranguing each other. It's ugly and it is NOT healthy or
helpful...to anyone.
So far as the legal issues go...well, those are in Blumenthal's lap,
now, aren't they? And I assume that everyone is going to live with
whatever direction his office decides to take.
You see? Nothing left for me to say.
If, as I suspect, nothing whatever comes from it...from Blumenthal's
'investigation'...then those who are disappointed with that result can
(and probably will) argue against his inaction.
I'm "out". Done.
I only responded today because you addressed me directly.
I am sorry you are having a tough go of it, right now.
I really am. |
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| the 3rd Man |
| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:37 pm |
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Mockingbird wrote:
Quote: I have no interest in the blumenthal investigation, I was not
discussing that! I've repeatedly said that...oh fuck it, I don't want
to touch that sh-t anymore.
What I was trying to say there...with respect to the Blumenthal
thing...is that I originally came into this forum to try to counter
some horrible mis-statements that were being made about the law...as
applied to situations involving Lyme disease.
Most of that was confined to trying to point out what was not
known...and what conclusions, therefore, could NOT properly be drawn.
Contrary to what has been suggested by some...I had very little
knowledge or information about any of this...the policy...or the
policy-makers.
And what I am saying now is that Blumenthal will have access to a great
deal of information and probably be able to draw warranted conclusions.
You see, because of my background, I (mistakenly) thought I could help.
Now, the burden is lifted.
Blumenthal has accepted the challenge. Good luck to him. I'm outta
here...
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bed bath and beyond? sure, it's the thought that counts. but my aunt is
very passive aggressive and I think she's sending me a subtle
message...ie...you need to clean up your act.
Maybe she's right. |
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