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| cd |
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Does anybody know "attero dominatus" means? It's the name of a music
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| Evertjan. |
| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:31 pm |
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cd wrote on 01 jan 2007 in sci.lang.translation:
Quote: Does anybody know "attero dominatus" means? It's the name of a music
album/song.
Yes, we do
Only for this?
Je kan dat beter op alt.language.latin vragen, eigenlijk.
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attero = ik wrijf tegen iets aan.
dominatus = het commando, de heerser
[Het werkwoord is "dominor" "domineren, heersen" passief dus, want als het
"domino" was, zou "dominatus" "de overheerste", dus "de onderworpene"
betekenen]
"Ik de heerser, ga er tegen aan."
<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaton>
Ik weet niet hoe goed ze dit Latijn begrepen bij Sabaton.
[En mischien heb ik het fout]
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress) |
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| cd |
| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:38 pm |
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Quote:
Je kan dat beter op alt.language.latin vragen, eigenlijk.
Bedankt voor de tip. Ik zal het daar gaan vragen. |
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| Jean Munier |
| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:43 pm |
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"cd" <cd@ongeldig.be> wrote in message
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Quote: Does anybody know "attero dominatus" means? It's the name
of a music album/song.
Thanks in advance.
How about http://www.sunsite.ubc.ca/LatinDictionary/ ?
attero: destroy, waste, weaken, impair.
to weaken, ruin, rub against, rub away, erode.
(seems like first person present indicative of verb
"atterere", thus: I destroy or similar)
dominatus: rule, mastery, tyranny, domination.
"Attero dominatus" is not a sentence. The lyrics by the
Swedish group Sabaton show:
Attero!
Dominatus!
http://www.metal-archives.com/viewlyrics.php?id=856412
J. |
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| Edward Hennessey |
| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:57 pm |
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Jean Munier wrote:
JM:
I thought of you the other when doing a search after hearing the pretty
funny acoustic
cover of "Boys in the Hood" by Dynamite Hacks. I've never listened to
the original but think
it must be even more of a self-effigy once one has heard the acoustic
spin.
As a result, I did a search under "best cover songs" and found a number
of fine treatments which you would enjoy persuing.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey |
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| Jukka K. Korpela |
| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:54 am |
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Scripsit Jean Munier:
Quote: "Attero dominatus" is not a sentence. The lyrics by the
Swedish group Sabaton show:
Attero!
Dominatus!
Lyrics in so-called rock music in its varying varieties often contain Latin
or Latin-like words, but in general, they're just obfuscated boar Latin
shouted loudly.
I guess it's part of the idea that if you try to make any sense of it, you
just feel dizzy or start getting mad.
So I wonder whether any task of _translating_ such texts is just fictional,
at least in our current world. In the future, it might conceivably be used
as a means of torture in damnation.
--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ |
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| Jean Munier |
| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:01 pm |
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"Edward Hennessey" <halozzyzxhalo@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Quote:
Jean Munier wrote:
JM:
I thought of you the other when doing a search after
hearing the pretty
funny acoustic
cover of "Boys in the Hood" by Dynamite Hacks. I've never
listened to
the original but think
it must be even more of a self-effigy once one has heard
the acoustic
spin.
As a result, I did a search under "best cover songs" and
found a number
of fine treatments which you would enjoy persuing.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
Nice of you to think of me...
This being said, I'm not at all into heavy metal, rap, hip
hop or the like. I'm actually much more into Charlie Parker,
Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius Monk, John Coltrane before he
started experimenting with a soprano saxophone, Miles Davies
before he went electric, and the like. My overall favourites
are probably "'Round Midnight" by Thelonius Monk and
"Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" (a tribute to Lester Young) by
Charlie Mingus.
As a matter of fact I had never heard of Dynamite Hacks!
Happy and prosperous 2007 to you and yours.
J. |
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| Thomas Weber |
| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:16 pm |
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"Jean Munier" <Jockamo_fee_nanay@iko.iko> wrote in message
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Quote: I'm actually much more into Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius
Monk, John Coltrane before he started experimenting with a soprano
saxophone, Miles Davies before he went electric, and the like. My overall
favourites are probably "'Round Midnight" by Thelonius Monk and "Goodbye
Pork Pie Hat" (a tribute to Lester Young) by Charlie Mingus.
Ça, c'est la musique !
Thomas |
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| Michèle |
| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:13 pm |
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Thomas Weber a exposé le 02/01/2007 :
Quote: "Jean Munier" <Jockamo_fee_nanay@iko.iko> wrote in message
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I'm actually much more into Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius
Monk, John Coltrane before he started experimenting with a soprano
saxophone, Miles Davies before he went electric, and the like. My overall
favourites are probably "'Round Midnight" by Thelonius Monk and "Goodbye
Pork Pie Hat" (a tribute to Lester Young) by Charlie Mingus.
Ça, c'est la musique !
Thomas
N'est ce pas ? |
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| Michèle |
| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:15 pm |
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Thomas Weber a exposé le 02/01/2007 :
Quote: "Jean Munier" <Jockamo_fee_nanay@iko.iko> wrote in message
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I'm actually much more into Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius
Monk, John Coltrane before he started experimenting with a soprano
saxophone, Miles Davies before he went electric, and the like. My overall
favourites are probably "'Round Midnight" by Thelonius Monk and "Goodbye
Pork Pie Hat" (a tribute to Lester Young) by Charlie Mingus.
Ça, c'est la musique !
Thomas
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| Edward Hennessey |
| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:52 pm |
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Jean Munier wrote:
Quote: "Edward Hennessey" <halozzyzxhalo@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Jean Munier wrote:
JM:
I thought of you the other when doing a search after
hearing the pretty
funny acoustic
cover of "Boys in the Hood" by Dynamite Hacks. I've never
listened to
the original but think
it must be even more of a self-effigy once one has heard
the acoustic
spin.
As a result, I did a search under "best cover songs" and
found a number
of fine treatments which you would enjoy persuing.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
Nice of you to think of me...
This being said, I'm not at all into heavy metal, rap, hip
hop or the like. I'm actually much more into Charlie Parker,
Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius Monk, John Coltrane before he
started experimenting with a soprano saxophone, Miles Davies
before he went electric, and the like. My overall favourites
are probably "'Round Midnight" by Thelonius Monk and
"Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" (a tribute to Lester Young) by
Charlie Mingus.
As a matter of fact I had never heard of Dynamite Hacks!
Happy and prosperous 2007 to you and yours.
JM:
And a happy new year your way.
Though I am not a devotee of rap or some other genres, I am harbor a
willingness to entertain exceptions to the rule even as I adore the law
that makes a driver here liable for music that can be heard more than
50 feet from the broadcasting vehicle.
The Dynamite Hacks song is a droll hoot, as if white surf wastrels
gobbled Qualudes and
got down for the 'hood plucking their axes. One can't imagine a fair
hearing would not tempt you to these sentiments. Though Jimmy Hendrix's
version of "All Along The Watchtower" was the consensus pick as best
cover ever, the D.H. effort was among those running along with
surpassing things like the great rendition of "I Am The Walrus" by
Spooky Tooth and many other interesting makeovers by bands and artists
that are probably alien to the ken of all but the most deadfast
afficionado. Someone should wrap a CD collection of these things.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey |
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| Aug. de Man |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:37 am |
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| Leszek L. |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:06 am |
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U¿ytkownik "Aug. de Man" <augdeman a. gmail dot com> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Quote: "cd" :
Does anybody know "attero dominatus" means? It's the name of a music
album/song.
It means "I destroy the tirannies".
Not unless you have a total disregard for the rules of inflection, IMVHO.
With this ending, it might conceivably mean "I destroy the dominated one".
In this context, why would you translate two separate exclamations
by one full sentence?
Cheers,
L. |
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| Jean Munier |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:15 pm |
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"Aug. de Man" <augdeman a. gmail dot com> wrote in message
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You could indeed be right. I have not done Latin since the
last year of secondary school and that's quite a while ago
but http://perso.orange.fr/prima.elementa/Dico-d06.html
shows "dominatus" to be of the 4th declension (genitive in
"us") and not of the 2nd declension as one would suspect.
Accusative plural would therefore be "dominatus"
http://www.sacredbible.org/LatinDeclensions.htm. Only
problem is the way the lyrics are shown: on 2 lines with an
exclamation mark at the end of each, which strongly suggests
2 separate statements and not a single sentence.
J. |
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| Edward Hennessey |
| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:24 pm |
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Edward Hennessey wrote:
Quote: Jean Munier wrote:
"Edward Hennessey" <halozzyzxhalo@yahoo.com> wrote in
The Dynamite Hacks song is a droll hoot, as if white surf wastrels
gobbled Qualudes ***actually, Quaaludes (a hypnotic and sedative drug)*** and
got down for the 'hood plucking their axes.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey |
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