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| Leszek L. |
 Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:44 am |
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For no reason whatsoever,
In no connection to the birth, marriage, or death of any being,
With no seasonal association, no context cultural or religious,
no reference to 24-hour outdoor animal care staff and their repose,
no indication as to the numbers, or level of wisdom, of other person
or persons involved, or the point of the compass whence he,
she, or they may or may not have brought assorted products,
no statement as to the chemical composition organic or metallic
of said products, or the amount, if any, charged for such delivery;
With no details either graphic or subtle given of housing conditions,
no description of light sources whether stationary or travelling,
internal, external, terrestrial, atmospheric, or astronomic -
I wish you all whatever is good for you. |
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| Edward Hennessey |
| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:11 pm |
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Leszek L. wrote:
And I amend one line,
" For all reasons whatsoever", adding
"Cheer!" to everyone.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey |
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| Afoklala |
| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:04 am |
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Op Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:44:55 +0100 schreef Leszek L.:
Quote: For no reason whatsoever,
In no connection to the birth, marriage, or death of any being,
With no seasonal association, no context cultural or religious,
no reference to 24-hour outdoor animal care staff and their repose,
no indication as to the numbers, or level of wisdom, of other person
or persons involved, or the point of the compass whence he,
she, or they may or may not have brought assorted products,
no statement as to the chemical composition organic or metallic
of said products, or the amount, if any, charged for such delivery;
With no details either graphic or subtle given of housing conditions,
no description of light sources whether stationary or travelling,
internal, external, terrestrial, atmospheric, or astronomic -
I wish you all whatever is good for you.
Same to y'all.
This was amusing...
--
Jan Willem from Odijk, Netherlands
e-mail in From-field is wrong, real e-mail is:
jw point van point dormolen on xs4all point nl
(change point into dot, on into at)
And then there's this:
'No, `Eureka' is Greek for `This bath is too hot.'' -- Dr. Who |
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| Claudio Grondi |
| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:43 pm |
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Afoklala wrote:
Quote: Op Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:44:55 +0100 schreef Leszek L.:
For no reason whatsoever,
In no connection to the birth, marriage, or death of any being,
With no seasonal association, no context cultural or religious,
no reference to 24-hour outdoor animal care staff and their repose,
no indication as to the numbers, or level of wisdom, of other person
or persons involved, or the point of the compass whence he,
she, or they may or may not have brought assorted products,
no statement as to the chemical composition organic or metallic
of said products, or the amount, if any, charged for such delivery;
With no details either graphic or subtle given of housing conditions,
no description of light sources whether stationary or travelling,
internal, external, terrestrial, atmospheric, or astronomic -
I wish you all whatever is good for you.
Same to y'all.
This was amusing...
.... and trying to express the hint, that no statement is given without a
context it shows how hard (or to be honest just impossible) it could be
to exclude all of the contexts it does eventually not belong to.
From my point of view some food for thoughts about the politics, law
and the language, as the translation of it to another languages should
consider the law and the political bias of the country the translation
is targeted at.
Claudio |
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| Jukka K. Korpela |
| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:58 pm |
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Scripsit Leszek L.:
Quote: For no reason whatsoever,
As a Rationalist, I strongly protest against the politically incorrect
negation of reason in your statement!
Quote: I wish you all whatever is good for you.
That's quite incorrect politically, since now you have expressed your
support to _all_ political, religious, and other beliefs and movements by
wishing whatever is good for them. This is of course grossly illogical (as
we should all have learned e.g. from "Bruce Almighty", the movie).
There's surely someone on this planet who thinks that Christmas presents
should not be given (actually, there are even groups of people with that
firm belief), and now you have wished them whatever is good for them,
thereby wishing that nobody on Earth gets any Christmas present.
--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ |
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| ranolki |
| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:26 pm |
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"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote in message
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Does being a rationalist justify R?
saludos
ranolki
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| Peter Wells |
| Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:52 am |
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:04:22 +0100, Afoklala <afoklala@afokla.la>
wrote:
Quote: Op Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:44:55 +0100 schreef Leszek L.:
For no reason whatsoever,
In no connection to the birth, marriage, or death of any being,
With no seasonal association, no context cultural or religious,
no reference to 24-hour outdoor animal care staff and their repose,
no indication as to the numbers, or level of wisdom, of other person
or persons involved, or the point of the compass whence he,
she, or they may or may not have brought assorted products,
no statement as to the chemical composition organic or metallic
of said products, or the amount, if any, charged for such delivery;
With no details either graphic or subtle given of housing conditions,
no description of light sources whether stationary or travelling,
internal, external, terrestrial, atmospheric, or astronomic -
I wish you all whatever is good for you.
Same to y'all.
This was amusing...
Indeed.
Reminds me of the comedian Dave Allen who, being Irish, used many
religious themes. He ended his show, instead of the traditional "God
Bless you", with "May your God be with you".
only one p in my real address / un seul p dans ma véritable adresse |
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| Edward Hennessey |
| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:48 pm |
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Leszek L. wrote:
Quote: For no reason whatsoever,
In no connection to the birth, marriage, or death of any being,
With no seasonal association, no context cultural or religious,
no reference to 24-hour outdoor animal care staff and their repose,
no indication as to the numbers, or level of wisdom, of other person
or persons involved, or the point of the compass whence he,
she, or they may or may not have brought assorted products,
no statement as to the chemical composition organic or metallic
of said products, or the amount, if any, charged for such delivery;
With no details either graphic or subtle given of housing conditions,
no description of light sources whether stationary or travelling,
internal, external, terrestrial, atmospheric, or astronomic -
I wish you all whatever is good for you.
LL:
Speaking of sacred celebrations, here is one that is growing legs:
http://www.answers.com/topic/festivus
It does offer some contention to the gala I was regretably unable to
attend where the men, being what men are, were bound to come in the
skin of the last fierce beast they defeated in defense of their kin,
kith or keep during some disjointed reverie while the ladies appeared
apparelled in ionic drapes, grapes, moonlight, scrolls poetically
confessing their most heartfelt notion or all of the above if any could
bear the load for the certainty of putting Chiquita Banana to furious
shame. But all not all is lost to you, amigo. Simply whisper and I'll
send you an express invite and domino mask for that special time next
year. Just to make sure your deportment doesn't lead to another form of
that word and a free return trip home, I'll have to introduce you under
a nom de guerre for fear that the relentless Chiquita would ply you
with potions in order to boast of proving the legend all too human.
More on topic, there is a fine article (under the title "13th Century
Text Hides Words of Archimedes") on a codicological
(http://www.babylon.com/definition/codicology/English) look at a
palimpsestic Archimedean classic in today's LA Times at this URL:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-sci-archimedes26dec26,1,6326231.story
Perhaps direct injection of the above address into your browser will
allow direct access...but I fear site registration may be required.
Usually, if one waits a few days and simply searches under the quoted
title, the piece will turn up unfettered on the web somewhere.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey |
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| Leszek L. |
| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:02 am |
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Użytkownik "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> napisał w wiadomości
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Quote: Scripsit Leszek L.:
For no reason whatsoever,
As a Rationalist, I strongly protest against the politically incorrect
negation of reason in your statement!
Negation of reason flies in the face of logic, but not of political
correctness.
Quote: I wish you all whatever is good for you.
That's quite incorrect politically, since now you have expressed your
support to _all_ political, religious, and other beliefs and movements by
I most certainly have not.
My wishes were for people, not for beliefs or movements. In fact, it may
be good for some people that they abandon their present religious,
philosophical, and/or political allegiances and/or embrace different ones.
I wish those and all people whatever is truly good for them. I refrain
from passing judgment as to what it might actually be.
Quote: wishing whatever is good for them. This is of course grossly illogical (as
we should all have learned e.g. from "Bruce Almighty", the movie).
There's surely someone on this planet who thinks that Christmas presents
should not be given (actually, there are even groups of people with that
firm belief), and now you have wished them whatever is good for them,
thereby wishing that nobody on Earth gets any Christmas present.
There's surely a lot of people on this planet who are fiercely wrong as to
what
is good for themselves and for everybody else. I wish everybody what *is*
good for them, not what they, or I, or anybody else *thinks* would be best.
Cheers,
Leszek. |
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| Thomas Weber |
| Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:15 pm |
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"Leszek L." <lleszek@iitis.gliwice.pl> wrote in message
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Quote: There's surely a lot of people on this planet who are fiercely wrong as to
what
is good for themselves and for everybody else. I wish everybody what *is*
good for them, not what they, or I, or anybody else *thinks* would be
best.
First, thanks for those Christmas wishes and the humor that you wrapped them
in. Second, I just wanted to observe that this last sentence of yours is
the one that is politically incorrect, in my experience, because it says
there is an objective good. This is taboo, as the foundation of political
correctness is relativism. Your sentence means that, whether or not you or
any individual grasps it, things can be objectively good or bad. That is as
stinky to the politically correct as objectively true or false, or--the
ultimate horror--morally right or wrong.
Best (in my sense of the word) wishes for a Happy New year (if you observe
the Gregorian calendar).
Thomas |
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