On 5 Jan 2007 14:30:01 -0800, "Brent" <b_philion@hotmail.com> wrote:

I took the OP as being an industrial user when he said ONE of his
welders and wasnt concerned about it being HIS TIG welder few hobbyists
i know have multiple welders and especially few have multiple welders
of the same process.


ah..ahum...

G

Gunner

Well, I think we have all come to an understanding that repair and
replace are both viable options depending upon one's situation and
knowledge. Interestingly, Soka seems to have lost interest in the
discussion.

Brent, I am very much a hobbyist level welder, having never been paid a
penny for any of my welding. I have a WWII era Harnisfager/P&H
transformer type stick/TIG welder rated at 300 amps 100% duty cycle/450
amps 35% duty cycle in my home garage and a Thermal Arc 400 inverter
stick/TIG machine in my basement. That's in addition to my original
Sears plug-select buzz box with outboard HF unit that I started out
TIGing with 4 decades ago (that was a laugh), the Craftsman stick
welder I picked up recently at a salvage store, and my Lincoln Weld-Pak
150 (I think) wire feed unit. My point being that you can't tell a
hobbyist by his hardware.

I may be biased about the ease of plugging in a replacement TDR, since
I have a box full of various types picked up at surplus/salvage for
projects that never came to fruition or as spares or just in case I
need one someday. In fact, now that I think of it, I may be a closet
TDR collector.

In any case, many of the TDRs have the same pinout on an 11-pin
"octal" style connector and the delay required is very common. Now all
we need is information and ongoing interest from Soka.

awright

Well I'm 26 and i have a spare westinghouse offboard HF unit as my
extra "stuff" to go with my new miller Synchrowave 200 I will build up
a "collection" too i'm sure.

I'm biased the other way. If a company stands by their products enough
to readily have spares for non-warranteed machines i'm doing backflips
at their customer support. If i had to work on something like your
Harnisfager and source a tube or replace some peice on a 60 or 70's
then i'm expecting all the component work

Other than Miller and sometimes HP test and measurement (Now Agilent) i
have never seen a company stand by electronics to that level. Most have
tossed any spares or so on out soon after the product or board revision
and warranty are up.

Brent
Ottawa Canada
(Always keeping my eyes open for electrically rebuildable/repairable
machinery)

awright wrote:
Well, I think we have all come to an understanding that repair and
replace are both viable options depending upon one's situation and
knowledge. Interestingly, Soka seems to have lost interest in the
discussion.

Brent, I am very much a hobbyist level welder, having never been paid a
penny for any of my welding. I have a WWII era Harnisfager/P&H
transformer type stick/TIG welder rated at 300 amps 100% duty cycle/450
amps 35% duty cycle in my home garage and a Thermal Arc 400 inverter
stick/TIG machine in my basement. That's in addition to my original
Sears plug-select buzz box with outboard HF unit that I started out
TIGing with 4 decades ago (that was a laugh), the Craftsman stick
welder I picked up recently at a salvage store, and my Lincoln Weld-Pak
150 (I think) wire feed unit. My point being that you can't tell a
hobbyist by his hardware.

I may be biased about the ease of plugging in a replacement TDR, since
I have a box full of various types picked up at surplus/salvage for
projects that never came to fruition or as spares or just in case I
need one someday. In fact, now that I think of it, I may be a closet
TDR collector.

In any case, many of the TDRs have the same pinout on an 11-pin
"octal" style connector and the delay required is very common. Now all
we need is information and ongoing interest from Soka.

awright

In article <el20q257fqgtq7hhk42135hmjk3ee7ebtt@4ax.com>,
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

On 5 Jan 2007 14:30:01 -0800, "Brent" <b_philion@hotmail.com> wrote:

I took the OP as being an industrial user when he said ONE of his
welders and wasnt concerned about it being HIS TIG welder few hobbyists
i know have multiple welders and especially few have multiple welders
of the same process.


ah..ahum...

G

Gunner

OK. Gunner, you have multiples of everything -- except C3000 Olympus
cameras apparently. :)

I'd _really_ like to get out to Gunnerland sometime -- with a BIG effin'
truck!

In article <el20q257fqgtq7hhk42135hmjk3ee7ebtt@4ax.com>,
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

On 5 Jan 2007 14:30:01 -0800, "Brent" <b_philion@hotmail.com> wrote:

I took the OP as being an industrial user when he said ONE of his
welders and wasnt concerned about it being HIS TIG welder few hobbyists
i know have multiple welders and especially few have multiple welders
of the same process.


ah..ahum...

G

Gunner

OK. Gunner, you have multiples of everything -- except C3000 Olympus
cameras apparently. :)

I'd _really_ like to get out to Gunnerland sometime -- with a BIG effin'
truck!

--
Bring back, Oh bring back
Oh, bring back that old continuity.
Bring back, oh, bring back
Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to me.

In article <el20q257fqgtq7hhk42135hmjk3ee7ebtt@4ax.com>,
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:

On 5 Jan 2007 14:30:01 -0800, "Brent" <b_philion@hotmail.com> wrote:

I took the OP as being an industrial user when he said ONE of his
welders and wasnt concerned about it being HIS TIG welder few hobbyists
i know have multiple welders and especially few have multiple welders
of the same process.


ah..ahum...

G

Gunner

OK. Gunner, you have multiples of everything -- except C3000 Olympus
cameras apparently. :)

I'd _really_ like to get out to Gunnerland sometime -- with a BIG effin'
truck!

--
Bring back, Oh bring back
Oh, bring back that old continuity.
Bring back, oh, bring back
Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to me.

I wish i was a reasonable drive from gunnerland

Or that there was a "Gunnerland EAST" in Michigan or NY state

John Husvar wrote:

In article <el20q257fqgtq7hhk42135hmjk3ee7ebtt@4ax.com>,
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:


On 5 Jan 2007 14:30:01 -0800, "Brent" <b_philion@hotmail.com> wrote:


I took the OP as being an industrial user when he said ONE of his
welders and wasnt concerned about it being HIS TIG welder few hobbyists
i know have multiple welders and especially few have multiple welders
of the same process.


ah..ahum...

G

Gunner

OK. Gunner, you have multiples of everything -- except C3000 Olympus
cameras apparently. :)

I'd _really_ like to get out to Gunnerland sometime -- with a BIG effin'
truck!

--
Bring back, Oh bring back
Oh, bring back that old continuity.
Bring back, oh, bring back
Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to me.

Been there - survived nicely but had to rent a rental truck when the 54'
Bekins truck filled up!

Martin
p.s. I had to have it anyway for various precision drilled rounds of metal
that don't ship well in other hands.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot"s Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Brent wrote:
I wish i was a reasonable drive from gunnerland

Or that there was a "Gunnerland EAST" in Michigan or NY state

John Husvar wrote:

In article <el20q257fqgtq7hhk42135hmjk3ee7ebtt@4ax.com>,
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:


On 5 Jan 2007 14:30:01 -0800, "Brent" <b_philion@hotmail.com> wrote:


I took the OP as being an industrial user when he said ONE of his
welders and wasnt concerned about it being HIS TIG welder few hobbyists
i know have multiple welders and especially few have multiple welders
of the same process.


ah..ahum...

G

Gunner

OK. Gunner, you have multiples of everything -- except C3000 Olympus
cameras apparently. :)

I'd _really_ like to get out to Gunnerland sometime -- with a BIG effin'
truck!

--
Bring back, Oh bring back
Oh, bring back that old continuity.
Bring back, oh, bring back
Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to me.



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