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Charlie Mitchell
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:48 am
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Derek Geldard wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:18:56 +0000, Charlie Mitchell
jm2@charleem.co.uk> wrote:

Ziggy wrote:
What is the approximate battery life of the receiver of a wire free door
chime?

For the sake of argument, let's say the unit is used very little and the
receiver does not have a light.

{Here are some sample products from Argos http://tinyurl.com/2sb3r9}
Our wireless doorbells seemed to do nothing but die, they were
totally hopeless, in the end I put a wired one in myself which
is still going strong, the wireless ones just seemed to stop
working for some reason after about 12 months and no end of
fiddling with them would get them working again, it also
seemed regardless of the amount of money we spent on them as
well.

They are not fighting with your wireless network are they ?

Both my wireless meat thermometer and my little Chinese weather
station quit when my wifi network is running.

DG


That is a really good suggestion actually and something I
never thought of! I can't remember how long we've had the
wireless, I think we had the wireless doorbells longer though.

Whilst they all seemed to work a certain amount of time they
all gave up the ghost after the same amount of time.

The wired one I put in is just an old fashioned ding dong one,
it's not one that's wired into the mains, that really does
sound dangerous, epseically where my wiring skills are
concerned!!
Gizmo.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:58 am
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"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Ziggy" <duff@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
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What is the approximate battery life of the receiver of a wire free door
chime?

For the sake of argument, let's say the unit is used very little and the
receiver does not have a light.



get a set of batteries like this:

http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/batt.jpg

they can ring your bell continuously for 25 years or so

Nah ... those are tiny.

What you want are Exide OPzS flooded cells - available up to 2V @ 12,000Ah
I'm sure there are bigger on the market, but that's as big as I've worked
on.
gort
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:01 am
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Quote:
Not having such a device, why would the *receiver* be battery powered
unless you live somewhere without mains electricity?

So you can carry into the garden and hear the doorbell ?

Dave
philo
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:52 am
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Quote:
they can ring your bell continuously for 25 years or so

Nah ... those are tiny.

What you want are Exide OPzS flooded cells - available up to 2V @ 12,000Ah
I'm sure there are bigger on the market, but that's as big as I've worked
on.



Though I now work for a different industrial battery manufacturer...I used
to work for Exide...
but never worked with cells larger than 1700 AH. I think the largest cell I
could carry into my basement
would be about 300AH Smile
Gizmo.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:40 am
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"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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they can ring your bell continuously for 25 years or so

Nah ... those are tiny.

What you want are Exide OPzS flooded cells - available up to 2V @
12,000Ah
I'm sure there are bigger on the market, but that's as big as I've worked
on.



Though I now work for a different industrial battery manufacturer...I used
to work for Exide...
but never worked with cells larger than 1700 AH. I think the largest cell
I
could carry into my basement
would be about 300AH Smile

Had to remove 192 flooded cells from a Nortel site once, each one with 56
litres of acid.
Wasnt exactly the nicest job we've ever done ... but sure did pay well !
Replaced them with good old VH57s
philo
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:59 am
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Quote:

Had to remove 192 flooded cells from a Nortel site once, each one with 56
litres of acid.
Wasnt exactly the nicest job we've ever done ... but sure did pay well !
Replaced them with good old VH57s




Well I'm 57 years old and my heavy lifting days are over.
they hired a 300# (135kg) "kid" to help me out on the heavy jobs.

The first week on the job he laughed at me because I could no
longer lift all those "very light" cells.

After I had him carry a dozen cells up a flight of stairs
(and the old ones back down) he started laughing a bit less :)

I really rubbed it in a bit and told him that I was the one who installed
them originally
about 5 years before!

Heck my heavy lifting ended about 6 years ago when I had knee surgery
Gizmo.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:59 pm
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"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Had to remove 192 flooded cells from a Nortel site once, each one with 56
litres of acid.
Wasnt exactly the nicest job we've ever done ... but sure did pay well !
Replaced them with good old VH57s




Well I'm 57 years old and my heavy lifting days are over.
they hired a 300# (135kg) "kid" to help me out on the heavy jobs.

The first week on the job he laughed at me because I could no
longer lift all those "very light" cells.

Ahh but once you get to a certain age you've learnt that using an electric /
hydraulic battery lifter may not be so fast, but is way easier - and kinder
on the back ! ;o)
Although we still get the youngsters come in lifting VH57s at 127Kg each by
hand.

Quote:
After I had him carry a dozen cells up a flight of stairs
(and the old ones back down) he started laughing a bit less :)

I really rubbed it in a bit and told him that I was the one who installed
them originally
about 5 years before!

I realised I was getting on when I started ripping out equipment that was
state of the art 8-10 years ago when I first installed it, and replacing it
with kit that was a fraction of the size Surprised(

Quote:
Heck my heavy lifting ended about 6 years ago when I had knee surgery

I just get contractors to do it Surprised)
philo
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:47 pm
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Quote:

After I had him carry a dozen cells up a flight of stairs
(and the old ones back down) he started laughing a bit less :)

I really rubbed it in a bit and told him that I was the one who
installed
them originally
about 5 years before!

I realised I was getting on when I started ripping out equipment that was
state of the art 8-10 years ago when I first installed it, and replacing
it
with kit that was a fraction of the size Surprised(

Heck my heavy lifting ended about 6 years ago when I had knee surgery

I just get contractors to do it Surprised)




Though the electronics has changed quite a bit in the 32 years I've been in
the battery business...
and there have even been some changes in the batteries too...
Lead is lead...and it's heavy!
Charlie Mitchell
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:02 pm
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Owain wrote:
Quote:
Charlie Mitchell wrote:
The wired one I put in is just an old fashioned ding dong one,
it's not one that's wired into the mains, that really does
sound dangerous, epseically where my wiring skills are
concerned!!

I've got a mains fire-bell[1] wired up to the phone line.

Owain


[1] Security bell actually, fire-bells don't run on mains

Good god, it must be the equivalent of being woken up by being
kicked in the head!
Owain
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:26 pm
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Charlie Mitchell wrote:
Quote:
I've got a mains fire-bell[1] wired up to the phone line.
[1] Security bell actually, fire-bells don't run on mains
Good god, it must be the equivalent of being woken up by being
kicked in the head!

No, the klaxon on the alarm clock has that effect. I'm out of bed and
standing before I wake up!

I guess I just like my neighbours in the tenement to share in my
lifestyle...

Owain
kony
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:08 pm
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:03:07 -0600, "philo"
<philo@privacy.net> wrote:

Quote:

"Ziggy" <duff@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns98BE80C9F79CC64A18E@127.0.0.1...
What is the approximate battery life of the receiver of a wire free door
chime?

For the sake of argument, let's say the unit is used very little and the
receiver does not have a light.



get a set of batteries like this:

http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/batt.jpg

they can ring your bell continuously for 25 years or so



Unless those are of exotic construction, won't they have
self-discharged within a couple years' time?
Terry
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:19 pm
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Owain wrote:
Quote:

No, the klaxon on the alarm clock has that effect. I'm out of bed and
standing before I wake up!


Reminds me of my (very much) younger days (I was still at school) and
listening to AFN after Radio Luxembourg closed down - yes! I am going
back a very long time!

(For the benefit of younger listeners: AFN was the American Forces
Network, Europe.)

Closedown procedure varied from station to station and I can't remember
now if it was Frankfurt, Munich or Stuttgart, (I think Frankfurt) but
it went something like this:

"At the sound of the last tone, Central European Time will be One Hour
..... AFN Frankfurt broadcasts on an assigned frequency of Eight
Hundred, Seventy Two kilocycles per second, Three Hunded, Fourty-Four
meters in the Medium Waveband with a power of One Hundred, Fifty
Thousand Watts! ... AFN is now closing down and will return to the air
at six hours this morning ... Ladies and Gentlemen: Our National
Anthem!..."

.... at which point, as a 14 year old listening under the bedcovers (as
we all did, didn't we?) I had this mental picture of all these yanks
jumping out of bed just after 1am, snapping smartly to attention and
saluting (possibly to the flag propped up in the corner of the
bedroom!)

Terry
philo
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:37 pm
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Quote:



Unless those are of exotic construction, won't they have
self-discharged within a couple years' time?


You bet they will discharge...
that's why I keep them on a hysteresis-loop charger
(it's built into the UPS)
John
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:00 am
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Quote:

For the sake of argument, let's say the unit is used very little and the
receiver does not have a light.




Irrespective of usage, the receiver must be active all the time waiting for

a call - like leaving a radio switched on - with the volume turned down - it
will eat the batteries. Plug in ones are better.


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Quote:


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John
kony
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:49 pm
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:00:17 GMT, "John"
<john.plant510@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Quote:

For the sake of argument, let's say the unit is used very little and the
receiver does not have a light.




Irrespective of usage, the receiver must be active all the time waiting for
a call - like leaving a radio switched on - with the volume turned down - it
will eat the batteries. Plug in ones are better.


I would suspect the receiver battery lasts at least as long
as the transmitter battery. Supposing one with a separate
transformer plug in supply costs $10 more, it may come close
to erasing any cost difference too over the life of the
unit, though the plug in type would reduce # of batteries
going into a landfill.
 
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