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| Michael |
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:59 am |
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I am fairly new to this and have several (simple) question:
I have a krypton flashlight bulb (markings on bulb say 4.8v .5A). The
original flashlight that the bulb was removed from used 4 AA batteries.
1. Wouldn't the 6v from the batteries be 'pushing' the bulb a bit and
reducing its life?
2. If I want to wall-wart power this bulb, what voltage wall wart would be
recommended?
3. Since most wall warts (unregulated) supply higher voltage than the
sticker says, what method
should I use to bring down the voltage to the recommended voltage
(regulator, resistor, etc)
(I remember once trying to do something similar to this project and using a
resistor. Even
though the resistor was a high wattage resistor it got REALLY hot)
4. I think this question probably will have the same answer as #3, but if I
want to dim the bulb what
method would be recommended?
Thanks for you assistance |
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| John Fields |
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:46 pm |
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:59:23 -0500, "Michael" <N@NE.nothing> wrote:
Quote: I am fairly new to this and have several (simple) question:
I have a krypton flashlight bulb (markings on bulb say 4.8v .5A). The
original flashlight that the bulb was removed from used 4 AA batteries.
1. Wouldn't the 6v from the batteries be 'pushing' the bulb a bit and
reducing its life?
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For alkalines, yes, but at 1/2 an amp the internal resistance of the
cells would drop the voltage somewhat, and as the batteries were
drained the voltage would also drop. For NiCd and NiMH
rechargeables I believe their "flat" voltage region is around
1.2V/cell, so that would work perfectly.
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Quote: 2. If I want to wall-wart power this bulb, what voltage wall wart would be
recommended?
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4.8V @ 0.5A, but since that's not a readily available value I'd get
one rated at 5V @ 0.5A and drop the voltage to the lamp with a
resistor:
Vin - Vlamp 5.0V - 3.8V
R = ------------- = ------------- = 2.4 ohms
Ilamp 0.5A
The resistor would need to dissipate:
P = IE = Ilamp * Vin - Vlamp = 0.5A * 1.2V = 0.6 watts
Which means you should use a resistor capable of dissipating at
least 1 watt; a higher wattage allowing the resistor to run cooler.
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Quote: 3. Since most wall warts (unregulated) supply higher voltage than the
sticker says, what method
should I use to bring down the voltage to the recommended voltage
(regulator, resistor, etc)
(I remember once trying to do something similar to this project and using a
resistor. Even
though the resistor was a high wattage resistor it got REALLY hot)
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Most wall-warts put out their rated voltage when they're fully
loaded, so in your case, since your load has an odd voltage
requirement you'd want to pick a wall-wart with a slightly higher
voltage but which is rated for the same output current as your load,
then drop the extra voltage with a series resistor, as illustrated
above.
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Quote: 4. I think this question probably will have the same answer as #3, but if I
want to dim the bulb what
method would be recommended?
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If I wanted to dim the bulb I'd start with a higher supply voltage
and use an LM317 and a pot to do the dimming.
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Quote: Thanks for you assistance
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:-)
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JF |
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| Homer J Simpson |
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:23 pm |
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"Michael" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
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Quote: I have a krypton flashlight bulb (markings on bulb say 4.8v .5A). The
original flashlight that the bulb was removed from used 4 AA batteries.
1. Wouldn't the 6v from the batteries be 'pushing' the bulb a bit and
reducing its life?
When you draw .5 A from the batteries you wind up with 4.8 V (not strictly
true but it works).
Quote: 2. If I want to wall-wart power this bulb, what voltage wall wart would be
recommended?
4.5 V.
Quote: 4. I think this question probably will have the same answer as #3, but if
I
want to dim the bulb what
method would be recommended?
Use a multi voltage unit, run at 3 V. |
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| jasen |
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:02 am |
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On 2007-01-31, Michael <N@NE.nothing> wrote:
Quote: I am fairly new to this and have several (simple) question:
I have a krypton flashlight bulb (markings on bulb say 4.8v .5A). The
original flashlight that the bulb was removed from used 4 AA batteries.
1. Wouldn't the 6v from the batteries be 'pushing' the bulb a bit and
reducing its life?
2. If I want to wall-wart power this bulb, what voltage wall wart would be
recommended?
5V ones are fairly common, use one of them.
Quote: 3. Since most wall warts (unregulated) supply higher voltage than the
sticker says, what method
should I use to bring down the voltage to the recommended voltage
(regulator, resistor, etc)
5V ones are usually regulated , or you could use a 4,5V unregulated one
that'd probably be close enough.
Quote: (I remember once trying to do something similar to this project and using a
resistor. Even
though the resistor was a high wattage resistor it got REALLY hot)
to drop 0.2V at 0.5A you need a ideally a 0.4 ohm resistor, 0.39 will
probably be will close enough, actually 5V would be close enough.
usually it's just easier to buy a nightlight,
Bye.
Jasen |
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| Michael |
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:50 am |
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:59:23 -0500, "Michael" <N@NE.nothing> wrote:
I am fairly new to this and have several (simple) question:
I have a krypton flashlight bulb (markings on bulb say 4.8v .5A). The
original flashlight that the bulb was removed from used 4 AA batteries.
1. Wouldn't the 6v from the batteries be 'pushing' the bulb a bit and
reducing its life?
---
For alkalines, yes, but at 1/2 an amp the internal resistance of the
cells would drop the voltage somewhat, and as the batteries were
drained the voltage would also drop. For NiCd and NiMH
rechargeables I believe their "flat" voltage region is around
1.2V/cell, so that would work perfectly.
---
2. If I want to wall-wart power this bulb, what voltage wall wart would
be
recommended?
---
4.8V @ 0.5A, but since that's not a readily available value I'd get
one rated at 5V @ 0.5A and drop the voltage to the lamp with a
resistor:
Vin - Vlamp 5.0V - 3.8V
R = ------------- = ------------- = 2.4 ohms
Ilamp 0.5A
The resistor would need to dissipate:
P = IE = Ilamp * Vin - Vlamp = 0.5A * 1.2V = 0.6 watts
Which means you should use a resistor capable of dissipating at
least 1 watt; a higher wattage allowing the resistor to run cooler.
---
3. Since most wall warts (unregulated) supply higher voltage than the
sticker says, what method
should I use to bring down the voltage to the recommended voltage
(regulator, resistor, etc)
(I remember once trying to do something similar to this project and using
a
resistor. Even
though the resistor was a high wattage resistor it got REALLY hot)
---
Most wall-warts put out their rated voltage when they're fully
loaded, so in your case, since your load has an odd voltage
requirement you'd want to pick a wall-wart with a slightly higher
voltage but which is rated for the same output current as your load,
then drop the extra voltage with a series resistor, as illustrated
above.
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4. I think this question probably will have the same answer as #3, but if
I
want to dim the bulb what
method would be recommended?
---
If I wanted to dim the bulb I'd start with a higher supply voltage
and use an LM317 and a pot to do the dimming.
---
Thanks for you assistance
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:-)
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JF
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| Michael |
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:50 am |
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"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Michael" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
news:45c0aecb$0$28141$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
I have a krypton flashlight bulb (markings on bulb say 4.8v .5A). The
original flashlight that the bulb was removed from used 4 AA batteries.
1. Wouldn't the 6v from the batteries be 'pushing' the bulb a bit and
reducing its life?
When you draw .5 A from the batteries you wind up with 4.8 V (not strictly
true but it works).
2. If I want to wall-wart power this bulb, what voltage wall wart would
be
recommended?
4.5 V.
4. I think this question probably will have the same answer as #3, but
if
I
want to dim the bulb what
method would be recommended?
Use a multi voltage unit, run at 3 V.
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