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Sitav
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:28 pm
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who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.
Brian Tung
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:28 pm
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Shawn wrote:
Quote:
Neil deGrasse Tyson of Nova Now fame. Following in Sagan's footsteps as
far as making science accessible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson

Tyson is a featherweight compared to Sagan. His command of analogy is
far inferior--that's a big difference, considering that well-constructed
analogies are a great way to convey science to the general public.

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Brian Tung
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:28 pm
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Shawn wrote:
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Tyson has better graphics though. Smile

Hardly a ringing endorsement, I think. :-o

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The saddest part of the
comparison is that there was a guy popularizing astronomy and science 25
years ago, and there's a guy doing it now and Bill Nye for kids in
between.

I must be having trouble parsing this: What is sad about the thing you
pointed out?

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Shawn
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:19 pm
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Sitav wrote:
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who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.

Edwin Hubble, the guy the space telescope is named after.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble

Carl Sagan has done more than any other individual scientist in history
to make science and especially astronomy accessible and interesting to
the general public.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan


Shawn
Shawn
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:24 pm
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Sitav wrote:
Quote:
who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.

Oh, 21st century. Hmm, those other guys are dead.

Neil deGrasse Tyson of Nova Now fame. Following in Sagan's footsteps as
far as making science accessible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson
Greg Crinklaw
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:04 pm
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Sitav wrote:
Quote:
who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.

Famous to whom? I'll never forget when I first started college I took a
writing class. We had the assignment to write about someone famous. I
chose to write about Sir William Herschel.

In this class we all sat in a circle. The author read his/her paper
while the rest of the class listened. Everyone was encouraged to offer
critiques during the reading.

When it came my turn I was pretty nervous. My very first sentence went
something like, ".. the famous astronomer William Herschel..." Right
away a woman spoke up (she no doubt had written about some pop star) and
said, "How can he be famous, I've never heard of him!" The rest of the
class looked at each other and agreed!

Yet of course Herschel is one of the most famous astronomers of all
time, most notably because he discovered Uranus, which put him among a
very select few who could make such a claim.

The problem, of course, was that the young college students in the class
couldn't have named *any* famous astronomers, except perhaps Sagan.

My point is that perhaps "famous" isn't really the right question. It
relies too much on popular culture. Perhaps "noteworthy" would be better?

As far as noteworthy astronomers go, I might suggest Geoffrey Marcy, who
leads the pack in discovering the exoplanets.

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/comets.html

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Shawn
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:33 pm
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Brian Tung wrote:
Quote:
Shawn wrote:
Neil deGrasse Tyson of Nova Now fame. Following in Sagan's footsteps as
far as making science accessible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_deGrasse_Tyson

Tyson is a featherweight compared to Sagan. His command of analogy is
far inferior--that's a big difference, considering that well-constructed
analogies are a great way to convey science to the general public.

Tyson has better graphics though. Smile The saddest part of the
comparison is that there was a guy popularizing astronomy and science 25
years ago, and there's a guy doing it now and Bill Nye for kids in
between.



Shawn
Chris L Peterson
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:53 am
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On 27 Jan 2007 15:28:16 -0800, "Sitav" <sitav_nabi@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.

We're not too far into the 21st Century, so in terms of major work done
in the last five years, that would be hard to say. But there are many
famous astronomers who have produced great work in the last 25 year or
so, and remain active today:

Alan Guth
Stephen Hawking
Kip Thorne
Jocelyn Bell
Roger Penrose

Of course, most of these will probably be remembered in the long run as
20th Century scientists. The most famous 21st Century astronomers are
probably still in grade school.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
Brian Tung
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:54 am
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Shawn wrote:
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How about this: Tyson has a conversational manner that I find more
engaging than Sagan's gee whiz sharing of his wonder at the Cosmos. IMO
I find Tyson informative, more of a reporter, whereas Sagan was more of
an evangelist.

As a reporter, he's pretty darned good; as an explainer, he could use
more depth.

--
Brian Tung <brian@isi.edu>
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Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
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Shawn
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:10 pm
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Brian Tung wrote:
Quote:
Shawn wrote:
Tyson has better graphics though. :-)

Hardly a ringing endorsement, I think. Surprised

How about this: Tyson has a conversational manner that I find more
engaging than Sagan's gee whiz sharing of his wonder at the Cosmos. IMO
I find Tyson informative, more of a reporter, whereas Sagan was more of
an evangelist.

Quote:
The saddest part of the
comparison is that there was a guy popularizing astronomy and science 25
years ago, and there's a guy doing it now and Bill Nye for kids in
between.

I must be having trouble parsing this: What is sad about the thing you
pointed out?

It's great that Sagan, Tyson, Nye, or even the Myth Busters are (or

were) out there spreading science to the public. But we live in a
society utterly dependent on technology based on scientific discovery,
and yet a bunch of science geeks (us) can only come up with a handful of
names of people out there trying to teach astronomy to the masses.
Compare and Contrast with the number of football pundits out there
(American or otherwise FTM). I find it sad.


Shawn
Sam Wormley
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:13 pm
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Sitav wrote:
Quote:
who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.


The Century is technically only five (5) years old. What major
astronomical work has come to light in the last five years and
who are the players?

When you say "famous", do you mean astronomers known to the "man
on the street", those that have revolutionized our understanding
of nature significantly, or some other criteria?

Some to consider are
o Mars Rover team
o WMAP team
o Late John Bahcall (Solar Neutrinos)

Ask me in 95 years!
atasselli@hotmail.com
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:31 pm
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On 28 Jan, 04:53, Chris L Peterson <c...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
Quote:
On 27 Jan 2007 15:28:16 -0800, "Sitav" <sitav_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:

who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.We're not too far into the 21st Century, so in terms of major work done
in the last five years, that would be hard to say. But there are many
famous astronomers who have produced great work in the last 25 year or
so, and remain active today:

Alan Guth
Stephen Hawking
Kip Thorne
Jocelyn Bell
Roger Penrose



Are all those mentioned above truly astronomers? I don't think so.

Andrea T.
Chris L Peterson
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:49 pm
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On 28 Jan 2007 15:31:59 -0800, "atasselli@hotmail.com"
<atasselli@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Alan Guth
Stephen Hawking
Kip Thorne
Jocelyn Bell
Roger Penrose

Are all those mentioned above truly astronomers? I don't think so.

I would argue that they are. But it is certainly true that the modern
definition of "astronomer" is a loose one. All of the above have
contributed in profound ways to our understanding of the Universe.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
Greg Crinklaw
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:00 pm
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atasselli@hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Alan Guth
Stephen Hawking
Kip Thorne
Jocelyn Bell
Roger Penrose


Are all those mentioned above truly astronomers? I don't think so.

Yes, they are as far as I'm concerned. If you are claiming they are
astrophysicists, most astronomers don't care if you call them
astronomers or astrophysicists. The modern definition of both is pretty
much identical.

In practice the terms "observational" and "theoretical"
astronomer/astrophysicist is often applied with much greater meaning.

In the end, anyone who is scientifically studying the universe beyond a
narrow view of the earth is basically an astronomer.

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/comets.html

To reply take out your eye
David
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:36 pm
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Quote:
As far as noteworthy astronomers go, I might suggest Geoffrey Marcy, who
leads the pack in discovering the exoplanets.

Marci was first, but back in late 20th century when he was still at
SFSU.

On Jan 27, 6:04 pm, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Sitav wrote:
who are the "famous" astronomers of the 21st century. i havent heard
of many well known astronomers or astrophysicists.........yet.

Famous to whom? I'll never forget when I first started college I took a
writing class. We had the assignment to write about someone famous. I
chose to write about Sir William Herschel.

In this class we all sat in a circle. The author read his/her paper
while the rest of the class listened. Everyone was encouraged to offer
critiques during the reading.

When it came my turn I was pretty nervous. My very first sentence went
something like, ".. the famous astronomer William Herschel..." Right
away a woman spoke up (she no doubt had written about some pop star) and
said, "How can he be famous, I've never heard of him!" The rest of the
class looked at each other and agreed!

Yet of course Herschel is one of the most famous astronomers of all
time, most notably because he discovered Uranus, which put him among a
very select few who could make such a claim.

The problem, of course, was that the young college students in the class
couldn't have named *any* famous astronomers, except perhaps Sagan.

My point is that perhaps "famous" isn't really the right question. It
relies too much on popular culture. Perhaps "noteworthy" would be better?

As far as noteworthy astronomers go, I might suggest Geoffrey Marcy, who
leads the pack in discovering the exoplanets.

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing:http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/comets.html

To reply take out your eye
 
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