On Feb 2, 12:33 pm, "Marc Verhaegen" <fa204...@skynet.be> wrote:
rubbish

WARNING: graphic photo of shark-attack victim

http://www.couliercreatures.com/images-bu/stenbite1_bu.jpg

yeah.. that is pretty graphic... uh... thanks i guess..

WARNING: graphic photo of shark-attack victim
http://www.couliercreatures.com/images-bu/stenbite1_bu.jpg

yeah.. that is pretty graphic... uh... thanks i guess..

Chapstick:
WARNING: graphic photo of shark-attack victim
http://www.couliercreatures.com/images-bu/stenbite1_bu.jpg

yeah.. that is pretty graphic... uh... thanks i guess..

Chapstick:
WARNING: graphic photo of shark-attack victim
http://www.couliercreatures.com/images-bu/stenbite1_bu.jpg

yeah.. that is pretty graphic... uh... thanks i guess..

I don't understand. Was this shark supposed to eat that human, or
not? As I can see, that shark didn't eat one tiny bit of that human. SHark
could have eaten it, if only it wanted to, it is very graphically shown on
that photo. But, it is also very graphically shown that shark DIDN'T WANT to
eat that human. -- Mario

European Heart Journal 28:183-9
Reduced right ventricular ejection fraction in endurance athletes presenting
with ventricular arrhythmias: a quantitative angiographic assessment
Joris Ector, Javier Ganame, Nico van der Merwe, Bert Adriaenssens, Laurent
Pison, Rik Willems, Marc Gewillig & Hein Heidbüchel 2007
hein.heidbuchel@uz.kuleuven.ac.be
Aims:
Spontaneous or inducible sustained ventricular arrhythmias (VA) in endurance
athletes frequently originate from the right ventricle (RV), even in the
absence of familial arrhythmogenic RV cardiomyopathy (ARVC). The goal of
this study was to determine whether the RV arrhythmogenic predilection in
these patients is associated with RV functional abnormalities.
Methods and results:
Biplane RV angiography was performed in three groups: 22 endurance athletes
with VA, 15 matched athletes without VA, and 10 non-athletes without VA.

Four methods for quantitative RV angiographic analysis (area length, Boak,
pyramid monoplane, and pyramid biplane) were used to calculate RV
end-diastolic volume (EDV) and end-systolic volume (ESV) (both corrected for
body surface area) and ejection fraction (EF). In addition RV outflow tract
shortening fraction (SF) was determined. Although only 6 of 22 (27%)
athletes with VA fulfilled the diagnostic criteria for ARVC, RV
arrhythmogenic involvement was manifest or probable in 82%, based on a
combination of electrophysiologic, electrocardiographic, and morphologic
criteria. RV EDV in athletes was higher than in non-athletes (area length:
100.3 ± 26.9 vs. 69.6 ± 14.3 mL/m2, P = 0.001), without significant
difference between athletes with and without VA. RV ESV, in contrast, was
significantly higher in athletes with VA than in athletes without VA (52.6 ±
22.3 vs. 35.5 ± 11.2 mL/m2, P = 0.004), resulting in a significantly lower
RV EF, a consistent finding across all methods (area length: 49.1 ± 10.4 vs.
63.7 ± 6.4%, P < 0.001). This functional impairment was also reflected in a
lower RV outflow tract SF (SF right anterior oblique 32.2 ± 10.1 vs. 40.0 ±
11.6%, P = 0.09; SF left anterior oblique (LAO) 31.9 ± 7.8 vs. 39.0 ± 10.5%,
P = 0.10).
Conclusion:
VA in high-level endurance athletes frequently originate from a mildly
dysfunctional RV. This raises the question whether endurance exercise not
only acts as a trigger for these arrhythmias but also as promoter of the RV
changes.

Chapstick:
WARNING: graphic photo of shark-attack victim
http://www.couliercreatures.com/images-bu/stenbite1_bu.jpg

yeah.. that is pretty graphic... uh... thanks i guess..

I don't understand. Was this shark supposed to eat that human, or
not? As I can see, that shark didn't eat one tiny bit of that human. SHark
could have eaten it, if only it wanted to, it is very graphically shown on
that photo. But, it is also very graphically shown that shark DIDN'T WANT to
eat that human. -- Mario

Mario Petrinovich wrote:

Chapstick:
WARNING: graphic photo of shark-attack victim
http://www.couliercreatures.com/images-bu/stenbite1_bu.jpg

yeah.. that is pretty graphic... uh... thanks i guess..

I don't understand. Was this shark supposed to eat that human, or
not? As I can see, that shark didn't eat one tiny bit of that human. SHark
could have eaten it, if only it wanted to, it is very graphically shown on
that photo. But, it is also very graphically shown that shark DIDN'T WANT to
eat that human. -- Mario

As you can see the shark didn't know that UNTIL IT HAD TAKEN SOME BITES.

Marc Verhaegen wrote:

European Heart Journal 28:183-9
Reduced right ventricular ejection fraction in endurance athletes presenting
with ventricular arrhythmias: a quantitative angiographic assessment
Joris Ector, Javier Ganame, Nico van der Merwe, Bert Adriaenssens, Laurent
Pison, Rik Willems, Marc Gewillig & Hein Heidbüchel 2007
hein.heidbuchel@uz.kuleuven.ac.be
Aims:
Spontaneous or inducible sustained ventricular arrhythmias (VA) in endurance
athletes frequently originate from the right ventricle (RV), even in the
absence of familial arrhythmogenic RV cardiomyopathy (ARVC). The goal of
this study was to determine whether the RV arrhythmogenic predilection in
these patients is associated with RV functional abnormalities.
Methods and results:
Biplane RV angiography was performed in three groups: 22 endurance athletes
with VA, 15 matched athletes without VA, and 10 non-athletes without VA.

47 total? That's it?

* Aquatic Ape Theory of human evolution (original term Morgan 1982)
* Aquarboreal Apes Theory of Mio-Pliocene apes (aqua=water, arbor=tree)
* Amphibious Ancestors Theory of Plio-Pleistocene Homo (AAT strict sense)

Marc Verhaegen:

* Aquatic Ape Theory of human evolution (original term Morgan 1982)
* Aquarboreal Apes Theory of Mio-Pliocene apes (aqua=water, arbor=tree)
* Amphibious Ancestors Theory of Plio-Pleistocene Homo (AAT strict sense)

Also, I have Cliff Hanging Aquatic Ape Theory (CHAAT), which
assumes that we originated on a sea cliffs. -- Mario

Marc Verhaegen:
AAT =

* Aquatic Ape Theory of human evolution (original term Morgan 1982)
* Aquarboreal Apes Theory of Mio-Pliocene apes (aqua=water, arbor=tree)
* Amphibious Ancestors Theory of Plio-Pleistocene Homo (AAT strict
sense)

Also, I have Cliff Hanging Aquatic Ape Theory (CHAAT), which
assumes that we originated on a sea cliffs. -- Mario

:-)

We can always produce theories, Mario, but they have to be based upon
evidence. What other animals cliff-hang? --Marc

AAT =

* Aquatic Ape Theory of human evolution (original term Morgan 1982)
* Aquarboreal Apes Theory of Mio-Pliocene apes (aqua=water, arbor=tree)
* Amphibious Ancestors Theory of Plio-Pleistocene Homo (AAT strict
sense)

Also, I have Cliff Hanging Aquatic Ape Theory (CHAAT), which
assumes that we originated on a sea cliffs. -- Mario

:-)
We can always produce theories, Mario, but they have to be based upon
evidence. What other animals cliff-hang? --Marc

What other animal, except anteater, eats ants? There is no place for
two animals in one niche. So, we can say that the lack of animals in that
niche proves the theory, if you like, : ).

BTW, baboons use kopjes in savanna, and geladas use cliffs.

Cliffs
are climbing objects, and we are primates. You have tree hyraxes, and rocky
hyraxes. We have tree primates, and I say that we also have cliff primates.
As a matter of fact, the one primate that doesn't climb trees (even if
comfronted by predators) uses cliffs. There is no reason why some primate
wouldn't explore this empty niche, because this is a primate theritory,
CLIMBING surface. Primates are climbers. -- Mario

What other animal, except anteater, eats ants? There is no place
for
two animals in one niche. So, we can say that the lack of animals in that
niche proves the theory, if you like, : ).

Unique things can't prove anything.
All ant/termite-eaters have reduced teeth, suction feeding, long round
tongues etc.

BTW, baboons use kopjes in savanna, and geladas use cliffs.

Yes, and both are very different from us, don't you think? Any parallels
you see?

Cliffs
are climbing objects, and we are primates. You have tree hyraxes, and
rocky
hyraxes. We have tree primates, and I say that we also have cliff
primates.
As a matter of fact, the one primate that doesn't climb trees (even if
comfronted by predators) uses cliffs. There is no reason why some primate
wouldn't explore this empty niche, because this is a primate theritory,
CLIMBING surface. Primates are climbers. -- Mario

But no cliff-hangers. --Marc