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Daryl Krupa
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:42 am
Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 1118
Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle

http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy

I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg

They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...

http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif

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Rich Travsky
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:10 pm
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Daryl Krupa wrote:
Quote:

Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle

http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy

I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

From the above article:

"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there," said archeologist Mike
Morwood, co-leader of the team that discovered the hobbits.

Quote:
http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg

They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...

http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif
Lee Olsen
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:04 pm
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On Jan 31, 8:10 am, Rich Travsky <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Daryl Krupa wrote:

Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle

http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy

I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

From the above article:

"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there," said archeologist Mike
Morwood, co-leader of the team that discovered the hobbits.

There is another possibility...

http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/atapuerca/meet.php
"And nobody knows how long it took this concentration of broken bones
to accumulate. But the best guess of the investigators of the site is
that the bodies were thrown in there by other humans.
They're fragmentary, just like the animals bones that are also found
at this occupation site, and they are broken up in exactly the same
way. They also bear cut marks left by stone tools that are just like
the cut marks that are found on the animal bones. Evidently the humans
there treated human bones exactly the same way that they treated the
animal bones. And if they were eating the animals then probably they
were eating the humans as well."

No need for climbing gear here either. Or, maybe there was another
entrance that has long since caved in and they simply walked in and
out.

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http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg

They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...

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deowll
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:42 am
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"Rich Travsky" <traRvEsky@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Daryl Krupa wrote:

Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle

http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy

I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

From the above article:

"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there," said
archeologist Mike
Morwood, co-leader of the team that discovered the hobbits.


Fall, get shoved. A dead body tossed to remove the stink. A great place to
throw trash but a real danger around kids.



deowll
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:49 am
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"Lee Olsen" <paleocity@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 8:10 am, Rich Travsky <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
Daryl Krupa wrote:

Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle

http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy

I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

From the above article:

"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there," said
archeologist Mike
Morwood, co-leader of the team that discovered the hobbits.

There is another possibility...

http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/atapuerca/meet.php
"And nobody knows how long it took this concentration of broken bones
to accumulate. But the best guess of the investigators of the site is
that the bodies were thrown in there by other humans.
They're fragmentary, just like the animals bones that are also found
at this occupation site, and they are broken up in exactly the same
way. They also bear cut marks left by stone tools that are just like
the cut marks that are found on the animal bones. Evidently the humans
there treated human bones exactly the same way that they treated the
animal bones. And if they were eating the animals then probably they
were eating the humans as well."

At Dolina the bones have cut marks. At the pit of the bones none have been
cited to my knowledge. It also isn't likely they got there by accident. The
way is long and hard. Not sure if another way in ever existed.

No other way in has been suggested for the hobbit site. 75 feet down is a
pretty good drop below ground level. Kind of like an old dry or rather damp
well in the back of the cave.




Quote:

No need for climbing gear here either. Or, maybe there was another
entrance that has long since caved in and they simply walked in and
out.




http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg

They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...

http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif- Hide quoted
text -

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Daryl Krupa
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:08 am
Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 1118
On Feb 3, 9:42�pm, "deowll" <deo...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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"Rich Travsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message

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Daryl Krupa wrote:

Cavern may hold answers to hobbits riddle

http://tinyurl.com/3cjshy

  I suppose that the spelunking "hobbits" didn't
really need the ascenders, carabiners, etc. usually
used in abseiling down and up an 80-foot deep shaft:

From the above article:

"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there," said
archeologist Mike
Morwood, co-leader of the team that discovered the hobbits.

Fall, get shoved. A dead body tossed to remove the stink. A great place to
throw trash but a real danger around kids.





http://www.peak-adventures.co.nz/Abseil%202-1%20200mm.jpg

  They might have gotten by with prussik knots ...

http://www.mountainshop.fi/oppaat/kalalkeet/prusik.gif- Hide quoted text -

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Daryl Krupa
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:10 am
Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 1118
On Feb 3, 9:42?pm, "deowll" <deo...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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"Rich Travsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
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"I'd be very surprised if hobbits didn't fall down there," said
archeologist Mike
Morwood, co-leader of the team that discovered the hobbits.

Fall, get shoved. A dead body tossed to remove the stink.
A great place to throw trash but a real danger around kids.

I wonder if they'll find the missing body of a certain Bre-X
geologist ...

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