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David Kendra
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:11 pm
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GAO REPORT: BIOTECH FOODS 'AS SAFE AS CONVENTIONAL FOODS'

ISAAA
October 3, 2003

The General Accounting Office of the U.S. government has released a report
concluding that foods produced using biotechnology are as safe as
conventional foods. It stated that there is no scientific evidence that
they would cause long-term health risks to consumers.

The report entitled "Genetically Modified Foods: Experts View Regimen of
Safety Tests as Adequate, but FDA's Evaluation Process Could Be Enhanced"
notes that "Foods from GM plants pose three types of risk to human health:
they can potentially contain allergens, toxins, or antinutrients. These
risks are not unique to GM foods. People have consumed foods containing
allergens, toxins and antinutrients throughout history."

In addition, suggestions were made to improve the process being followed
by the US Food and Drug Administration to evaluate new biotech foods. The
FDA, according to the report, should enhance its oversight role in two
ways. One is to randomly verify the raw data companies provide about new
products since the agency currently reviews summaries of that data. The
second is to improve its system of informing the public about its
evaluation process and the scientific rationale behind its decisions.

The full report can be viewed at http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02566.pdf.
Guest
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 7:42 am
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:11:11 GMT, "David Kendra"
<dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Quote:
The General Accounting Office of the U.S. government has released a report
concluding that foods produced using biotechnology are as safe as
conventional foods.

So why can't it show the results from any scientific tests proving
that they are safe?

regards
Marcus
David Kendra
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:40 pm
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<marcus@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:11:11 GMT, "David Kendra"
dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

The General Accounting Office of the U.S. government has released a
report
concluding that foods produced using biotechnology are as safe as
conventional foods.

So why can't it show the results from any scientific tests proving
that they are safe?

Good question...Have you requested the data used to generate the report?

Dave
Quote:

regards
Marcus
Guest
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:07 am
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:40:43 GMT, "David Kendra"
<dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Quote:
Good question...Have you requested the data used to generate the report?

I've asked many times for data to prove that GM crops/GM food are
safe. No-one can provide it...

regards
Marcus
Jim Webster
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:22 am
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<marcus@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:40:43 GMT, "David Kendra"
dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Good question...Have you requested the data used to generate the report?

I've asked many times for data to prove that GM crops/GM food are
safe. No-one can provide it...


and you will never be able to prove GM is safe. You cannot prove that
conventional wheat is safe (gluten intolerance) or nuts are safe (nut
allergies)

you are setting up a straw man, and of course no one will ever be able to
prove any food is safe.

Jim Webster

Quote:
regards
Marcus
Rene
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:06 am
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I've asked many times whether conventional food (organic or not) is
safe. No scientist I know dares to say it is.

Rene.

Quote:
I've asked many times for data to prove that GM crops/GM food are
safe. No-one can provide it...

regards
Marcus
Oz
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:09 pm
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Rene <renevanwezel@hotmail.com> writes

Quote:
I've asked many times whether conventional food (organic or not) is
safe. No scientist I know dares to say it is.

Not surprising, we know it isn't.

Plants, in particular, are known to be packed with toxins.
And we only know about the small number that have given a severe toxic
dose to enough people for it to be investigated.

--
Oz
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David Kendra
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:26 pm
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<marcus@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:40:43 GMT, "David Kendra"
dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Good question...Have you requested the data used to generate the report?

I've asked many times for data to prove that GM crops/GM food are
safe. No-one can provide it...

Since you to not believe that GE foods are safe, perhaps you would care to
give us an example of what you consider to be a "safe" food?

Dave
Quote:

regards
Marcus
Guest
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 11:28 am
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:26:06 GMT, "David Kendra"
<dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Quote:
Since you to not believe that GE foods are safe, perhaps you would care to
give us an example of what you consider to be a "safe" food?

For a GM food, it has to be one that has been through safety testing
to pharmaceutical standards. So far, no GM foods have been safety
tested at all...

regards
Marcus
Oz
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:05 pm
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marcus@myrealbox.com writes
Quote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:26:06 GMT, "David Kendra"
dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Since you to not believe that GE foods are safe, perhaps you would care to
give us an example of what you consider to be a "safe" food?

For a GM food, it has to be one that has been through safety testing
to pharmaceutical standards. So far, no GM foods have been safety
tested at all...

Pharmaceutical standards? Oh, that's OK, they are much much more lax
than pesticide standards. Which, ISTR, GM foods have indeed passed.

--
Oz
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David Kendra
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:26 pm
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<marcus@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:26:06 GMT, "David Kendra"
dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Since you to not believe that GE foods are safe, perhaps you would care
to
give us an example of what you consider to be a "safe" food?

For a GM food, it has to be one that has been through safety testing
to pharmaceutical standards. So far, no GM foods have been safety
tested at all...

Why does it have to be tested to pharmaceutical standards?


Dave
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regards
Marcus
Jim Webster
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:01 am
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"David Kendra" <dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote in message
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marcus@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:26:06 GMT, "David Kendra"
dkendra@DELETETHISinsightbb.com> wrote:

Since you to not believe that GE foods are safe, perhaps you would care
to
give us an example of what you consider to be a "safe" food?

For a GM food, it has to be one that has been through safety testing
to pharmaceutical standards. So far, no GM foods have been safety
tested at all...

Why does it have to be tested to pharmaceutical standards?


doesn't matter, if they passed them, he would demand more tests to different
standards

Jim Webster
Quote:

Dave

regards
Marcus


Guest
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:49 am
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:05:21 +0100, Oz <acoohdb@btopenworld.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Which, ISTR, GM foods have indeed passed.

They certainly haven't. In the UK DEFRA/ACNFP have not required any
safety testing of GM crops prior to allowing them into the fields...

regards
Marcus
Guest
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:18 am
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:01:35 +0100, "Jim Webster"
<Jim@feeswerve.spam.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
doesn't matter, if they passed them, he would demand more tests to different
standards

And you would be happy with no tests at all, as is the current regime?

regards
Marcus
Oz
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:32 am
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marcus@myrealbox.com writes
Quote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:05:21 +0100, Oz <acoohdb@btopenworld.com
wrote:

Which, ISTR, GM foods have indeed passed.

They certainly haven't. In the UK DEFRA/ACNFP have not required any
safety testing of GM crops prior to allowing them into the fields...

As trials, to be destroyed before seeding - remember?

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Oz
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