Just got this. It'll give people something else to discuss.
This January edition of the 1421 mailout bulletin comes with very
best wishes for a Happy Chinese New Year!

2004 started with a successful trip to the USA for Gavin, to coincide
with the publication of the 1421 paperback edition there. He toured
the country, staying in over 11 major cities in 16 days. Tremendous
publicity was achieved, and the book re-entered the New York Times
Extended Bestsellers list.

With regard to public appearances, Gavin's critics at the American
Historical Association (AHA) and the World History Association joint
Convention in Washington DC were surprisingly ill-prepared for his new
evidence. This was coupled with the interview with Dr. Tony Frudakis
of Sarasota's DNAPrint Genomics, with whom we will attempt to date DNA
of native peoples, using linkage disequilibrium, to see whether they
have recent Chinese DNA, and thus silencing the critics forever. As a
result of Gavin's tour, 1421 is now a text book in American schools.

Other dramatic twists in the 1421 tale include the remnants of a
pre-Columbian Chinese civilisation in Boston. On his trip, Gavin went
to meet a source of some fantastic information regarding a Chinese
city in the area, which was built out of beautiful cut blue stone. Our
source said he had read that the first pilgrims to reach North America
found a city built out of blue stone some 20 miles inland from
Plymouth MA near what is now Waterland. They considered the city to
have been built by Chinese on account of several wrecked Junks which
lay nearby alongside the Banks of the Charles River, now part of
Central Boston. The gentleman said this blue stone city had been
dismantled by the first English settlers and used as foundations for
their first houses, and that the Junks had been blown up to prevent a
Chinese attack should they return. On close analysis of the stones at
the village where our source lives, Gavin saw that they had very
unusual and distinctive cutting marks, exactly the same as on the
leading edges of stones which he had seen at Bimini and on stones in
the Miami ship Channel (which came from Bimini.)

Incredibly Gavin was then told that the settlers were sure that the
original inhabitants of the area were Chinese because they said that
in addition to the Junks they had found in Boston, they had records of
a huge Chinese fleet that travelled from the Americas to England in
the 1420’s, en route to Muscovy. The Fleet had also visited
France and Portugal where they had been treated discourteously. In
contrast “The Dowager Queen” who was acting as Regent in
England was well disposed towards them. The Chinese delegation had
presented the Queen with beautiful Ming vases; possibly the ones which
can be seen today at Leeds Castle. We will be checking all this
information carefully before it is incorporated into evidence or
possible evidence.

Future events to look forward to include Professors Ted Bryant and
Dallas Abbott's trip to Stewart Island to conduct further research
into the comet that struck the ocean at 48.3º S, 166.4º E, destroying
Zhou Man's fleet. We also eagerly await the Paladin Invision
television documentary, as well as a 1 hour programme to be screened
on 17th April on Japanese television, based on Zheng He's fleets
visits to Australia and New Zealand.

Another important date to look forward to this year is the publication
of the 1421 UK paperback edition on March 2nd that will coincide with
the London Book Fair.

So, as you can see, 2004 has seen a very exciting start. We hope that
it continues this way, and look forward to hearing more in the future
from anyone out there who cares to partake in this exciting journey.

With best wishes for 2004,
Gung Hay Fat Choi!

1421 team

In article <qr3Sb.46759$mU6.177797@newsb.telia.net>,
inger_e.johansson@notelia.com says...
Doug,
and other that there were Chinese or Asian visitors in Boston area in 1420's
can be confirmed from other sources. They are described as pirates.

If this is true why was smallpox not in Americas until after the Spanish
arrived. Surely the Chinese or Asian would have brought their diseases
with them too!

Doug,
and other that there were Chinese or Asian visitors in Boston area in 1420's
can be confirmed from other sources. They are described as pirates.

Inger E

"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.demon.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
news:4e561022.0401282333.6c2b9382@posting.google.com...
Just got this. It'll give people something else to discuss.
This January edition of the 1421 mailout bulletin comes with very
best wishes for a Happy Chinese New Year!

2004 started with a successful trip to the USA for Gavin, to coincide
with the publication of the 1421 paperback edition there. He toured
the country, staying in over 11 major cities in 16 days. Tremendous
publicity was achieved, and the book re-entered the New York Times
Extended Bestsellers list.

With regard to public appearances, Gavin's critics at the American
Historical Association (AHA) and the World History Association joint
Convention in Washington DC were surprisingly ill-prepared for his new
evidence. This was coupled with the interview with Dr. Tony Frudakis
of Sarasota's DNAPrint Genomics, with whom we will attempt to date DNA
of native peoples, using linkage disequilibrium, to see whether they
have recent Chinese DNA, and thus silencing the critics forever. As a
result of Gavin's tour, 1421 is now a text book in American schools.

Other dramatic twists in the 1421 tale include the remnants of a
pre-Columbian Chinese civilisation in Boston. On his trip, Gavin went
to meet a source of some fantastic information regarding a Chinese
city in the area, which was built out of beautiful cut blue stone. Our
source said he had read that the first pilgrims to reach North America
found a city built out of blue stone some 20 miles inland from
Plymouth MA near what is now Waterland. They considered the city to
have been built by Chinese on account of several wrecked Junks which
lay nearby alongside the Banks of the Charles River, now part of
Central Boston. The gentleman said this blue stone city had been
dismantled by the first English settlers and used as foundations for
their first houses, and that the Junks had been blown up to prevent a
Chinese attack should they return. On close analysis of the stones at
the village where our source lives, Gavin saw that they had very
unusual and distinctive cutting marks, exactly the same as on the
leading edges of stones which he had seen at Bimini and on stones in
the Miami ship Channel (which came from Bimini.)

Incredibly Gavin was then told that the settlers were sure that the
original inhabitants of the area were Chinese because they said that
in addition to the Junks they had found in Boston, they had records of
a huge Chinese fleet that travelled from the Americas to England in
the 1420’s, en route to Muscovy. The Fleet had also visited
France and Portugal where they had been treated discourteously. In
contrast “The Dowager Queen” who was acting as Regent in
England was well disposed towards them. The Chinese delegation had
presented the Queen with beautiful Ming vases; possibly the ones which
can be seen today at Leeds Castle. We will be checking all this
information carefully before it is incorporated into evidence or
possible evidence.

Future events to look forward to include Professors Ted Bryant and
Dallas Abbott's trip to Stewart Island to conduct further research
into the comet that struck the ocean at 48.3º S, 166.4º E, destroying
Zhou Man's fleet. We also eagerly await the Paladin Invision
television documentary, as well as a 1 hour programme to be screened
on 17th April on Japanese television, based on Zheng He's fleets
visits to Australia and New Zealand.

Another important date to look forward to this year is the publication
of the 1421 UK paperback edition on March 2nd that will coincide with
the London Book Fair.

So, as you can see, 2004 has seen a very exciting start. We hope that
it continues this way, and look forward to hearing more in the future
from anyone out there who cares to partake in this exciting journey.

With best wishes for 2004,
Gung Hay Fat Choi!

1421 team

Doug,
and other that there were Chinese or Asian visitors in Boston area in
1420's
can be confirmed from other sources. They are described as pirates.

Inger E

"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.demon.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
news:4e561022.0401282333.6c2b9382@posting.google.com...
Just got this. It'll give people something else to discuss.
This January edition of the 1421 mailout bulletin comes with very
best wishes for a Happy Chinese New Year!

2004 started with a successful trip to the USA for Gavin, to coincide
with the publication of the 1421 paperback edition there. He toured
the country, staying in over 11 major cities in 16 days. Tremendous
publicity was achieved, and the book re-entered the New York Times
Extended Bestsellers list.

With regard to public appearances, Gavin's critics at the American
Historical Association (AHA) and the World History Association joint
Convention in Washington DC were surprisingly ill-prepared for his new
evidence. This was coupled with the interview with Dr. Tony Frudakis
of Sarasota's DNAPrint Genomics, with whom we will attempt to date DNA
of native peoples, using linkage disequilibrium, to see whether they
have recent Chinese DNA, and thus silencing the critics forever. As a
result of Gavin's tour, 1421 is now a text book in American schools.

Other dramatic twists in the 1421 tale include the remnants of a
pre-Columbian Chinese civilisation in Boston. On his trip, Gavin went
to meet a source of some fantastic information regarding a Chinese
city in the area, which was built out of beautiful cut blue stone. Our
source said he had read that the first pilgrims to reach North America
found a city built out of blue stone some 20 miles inland from
Plymouth MA near what is now Waterland. They considered the city to
have been built by Chinese on account of several wrecked Junks which
lay nearby alongside the Banks of the Charles River, now part of
Central Boston. The gentleman said this blue stone city had been
dismantled by the first English settlers and used as foundations for
their first houses, and that the Junks had been blown up to prevent a
Chinese attack should they return. On close analysis of the stones at
the village where our source lives, Gavin saw that they had very
unusual and distinctive cutting marks, exactly the same as on the
leading edges of stones which he had seen at Bimini and on stones in
the Miami ship Channel (which came from Bimini.)

Incredibly Gavin was then told that the settlers were sure that the
original inhabitants of the area were Chinese because they said that
in addition to the Junks they had found in Boston, they had records of
a huge Chinese fleet that travelled from the Americas to England in
the 1420’s, en route to Muscovy. The Fleet had also visited
France and Portugal where they had been treated discourteously. In
contrast “The Dowager Queen” who was acting as Regent in
England was well disposed towards them. The Chinese delegation had
presented the Queen with beautiful Ming vases; possibly the ones which
can be seen today at Leeds Castle. We will be checking all this
information carefully before it is incorporated into evidence or
possible evidence.

Future events to look forward to include Professors Ted Bryant and
Dallas Abbott's trip to Stewart Island to conduct further research
into the comet that struck the ocean at 48.3º S, 166.4º E, destroying
Zhou Man's fleet. We also eagerly await the Paladin Invision
television documentary, as well as a 1 hour programme to be screened
on 17th April on Japanese television, based on Zheng He's fleets
visits to Australia and New Zealand.

Another important date to look forward to this year is the publication
of the 1421 UK paperback edition on March 2nd that will coincide with
the London Book Fair.

So, as you can see, 2004 has seen a very exciting start. We hope that
it continues this way, and look forward to hearing more in the future
from anyone out there who cares to partake in this exciting journey.

With best wishes for 2004,
Gung Hay Fat Choi!

1421 team

In soc.history.medieval Bernardz <Bernard_zzz@removehotmail.com> wrote:
In article <qr3Sb.46759$mU6.177797@newsb.telia.net>,
inger_e.johansson@notelia.com says...
Doug,
and other that there were Chinese or Asian visitors in Boston area in
1420's
can be confirmed from other sources. They are described as pirates.

If this is true why was smallpox not in Americas until after the Spanish
arrived. Surely the Chinese or Asian would have brought their diseases
with them too!

They did. Wiped out most of the continental population. Among
those destroyed were the ten million Norwegians in the midwest,
five of the lost tribes of Israel, the fourteen million surviving
Atlanteans, and numerous others. The only folks to survive
were the Indians who had only come to the Americas the week before
and still had their Asian immunities.

The proof of this is obvious. It was only the Indians who were
here to meet the Europeans. All the others were gone.

---- Paul J. Gans

PS: That the Indians were not immune to European diseases is
even more proof of what I say.

Just got this. It'll give people something else to discuss.
This January edition of the 1421 mailout bulletin comes with very
best wishes for a Happy Chinese New Year!

2004 started with a successful trip to the USA for Gavin, to coincide
with the publication of the 1421 paperback edition there. He toured
the country, staying in over 11 major cities in 16 days. Tremendous
publicity was achieved, and the book re-entered the New York Times
Extended Bestsellers list.

With regard to public appearances, Gavin's critics at the American
Historical Association (AHA) and the World History Association joint
Convention in Washington DC were surprisingly ill-prepared for his new
evidence. This was coupled with the interview with Dr. Tony Frudakis
of Sarasota's DNAPrint Genomics, with whom we will attempt to date DNA
of native peoples, using linkage disequilibrium, to see whether they
have recent Chinese DNA, and thus silencing the critics forever. As a
result of Gavin's tour, 1421 is now a text book in American schools.

Other dramatic twists in the 1421 tale include the remnants of a
pre-Columbian Chinese civilisation in Boston. On his trip, Gavin went
to meet a source of some fantastic information regarding a Chinese
city in the area, which was built out of beautiful cut blue stone. Our
source said he had read that the first pilgrims to reach North America
found a city built out of blue stone some 20 miles inland from
Plymouth MA near what is now Waterland. They considered the city to
have been built by Chinese on account of several wrecked Junks which
lay nearby alongside the Banks of the Charles River, now part of
Central Boston. The gentleman said this blue stone city had been
dismantled by the first English settlers and used as foundations for
their first houses, and that the Junks had been blown up to prevent a
Chinese attack should they return. On close analysis of the stones at
the village where our source lives, Gavin saw that they had very
unusual and distinctive cutting marks, exactly the same as on the
leading edges of stones which he had seen at Bimini and on stones in
the Miami ship Channel (which came from Bimini.)

Incredibly Gavin was then told that the settlers were sure that the
original inhabitants of the area were Chinese because they said that
in addition to the Junks they had found in Boston, they had records of
a huge Chinese fleet that travelled from the Americas to England in
the 1420’s, en route to Muscovy. The Fleet had also visited
France and Portugal where they had been treated discourteously. In
contrast “The Dowager Queen” who was acting as Regent in
England was well disposed towards them. The Chinese delegation had
presented the Queen with beautiful Ming vases; possibly the ones which
can be seen today at Leeds Castle. We will be checking all this
information carefully before it is incorporated into evidence or
possible evidence.

Future events to look forward to include Professors Ted Bryant and
Dallas Abbott's trip to Stewart Island to conduct further research
into the comet that struck the ocean at 48.3º S, 166.4º E, destroying
Zhou Man's fleet. We also eagerly await the Paladin Invision
television documentary, as well as a 1 hour programme to be screened
on 17th April on Japanese television, based on Zheng He's fleets
visits to Australia and New Zealand.

Another important date to look forward to this year is the publication
of the 1421 UK paperback edition on March 2nd that will coincide with
the London Book Fair.

So, as you can see, 2004 has seen a very exciting start. We hope that
it continues this way, and look forward to hearing more in the future
from anyone out there who cares to partake in this exciting journey.

With best wishes for 2004,
Gung Hay Fat Choi!

1421 team

Doug,
and other that there were Chinese or Asian visitors in Boston area in 1420's
can be confirmed from other sources. They are described as pirates.

Oh, it will be, I'm sure - and plenty of it too. Come on Prof, don't be shy, put your
head on the block, er, I mean 'what is your
informed opinion on this remarkable artefact'? Is it a kosher viking runestone, or a
crafty hoax that many have made a nice little
income from? Pray do tell...
Cheers
Martin


Martin:

"Martin Reboul" <martin@SPAMFUKreboul1471.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
Oh, it will be, I'm sure - and plenty of it too. Come on Prof, don't be shy,
put your
head on the block, er, I mean 'what is your
informed opinion on this remarkable artefact'? Is it a kosher viking
runestone, or a
crafty hoax that many have made a nice little
income from? Pray do tell...
Cheers
Martin


Martin:
You may have something here! Kosher, of course, that must be it!
This is obviously an artifact of one of the lost tribes of Israel

"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.thisremove.co.uk> wrote in message
news:s6uvp8b79blf$.1wain15a0hb3$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:00:25 -0500, David wrote:

When 1421 was discussed last year, I predicted that we would be hearing more from this
charlatan. He's just out there sweeping up all the incredible stories he can find.
Probably by next year we will see 1421 book two which will contain even more fantastic
stories about the Chinese. Look for this story to have its own chapter.

I understand there will be a PBS series about the book.

Doug
Are they taking it seriously?

Next thing he will be opening a theme park in Switzerland!

"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.thisremove.co.uk> wrote in message
news:s6uvp8b79blf$.1wain15a0hb3$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:00:25 -0500, David wrote:

When 1421 was discussed last year, I predicted that we would be
hearing more from this
charlatan. He's just out there sweeping up all the incredible stories
he can find.
Probably by next year we will see 1421 book two which will contain
even more fantastic
stories about the Chinese. Look for this story to have its own
chapter.

I understand there will be a PBS series about the book.

Doug
Are they taking it seriously? You know this guy looks fair to be a
successor to Velkofski.
Next thing he will be opening a theme park in Switzerland!

Other dramatic twists in the 1421 tale include the remnants of a
pre-Columbian Chinese civilisation in Boston.

On his trip, Gavin went
to meet a source of some fantastic information regarding a Chinese
city in the area, which was built out of beautiful cut blue stone. Our
source said he had read

that the first pilgrims to reach North America
found a city built out of blue stone some 20 miles inland from
Plymouth MA near what is now Waterland.

They considered the city to
have been built by Chinese

on account of several wrecked Junks

which
lay nearby alongside the Banks of the Charles River,

now part of
Central Boston.

The gentleman

said this blue stone city had been
dismantled by the first English settlers and used as foundations for
their first houses,

and that the Junks had been blown up to prevent a
Chinese attack should they return.

On close analysis of the stones at
the village where our source lives, Gavin saw that they had very
unusual and distinctive cutting marks, exactly the same as on the
leading edges of stones which he had seen at Bimini and on stones in
the Miami ship Channel (which came from Bimini.)

Incredibly Gavin was then told that the settlers were sure that the
original inhabitants of the area were Chinese

because they said that
in addition to the Junks they had found in Boston, they had records of
a huge Chinese fleet

that travelled from the Americas to England in
the 1420’s, en route to Muscovy.

The Fleet had also visited
France and Portugal

here they had been treated discourteously.

n
contrast “The Dowager Queen” who was acting as Regent in
England was well disposed towards them. The Chinese delegation had
presented the Queen with beautiful Ming vases;

Inger E Johansson wrote:
Doug,
and other that there were Chinese or Asian visitors in Boston area in 1420's
can be confirmed from other sources. They are described as pirates.

And of course, the complete absence of ANY sources from 1420s
Boston area,

let alone sources describing pirates, need not
prevent such claims.

Tells you what you need to know about the
historical method being used.

taf