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| Makoto Taniguchi |
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Supposedly, the Japanese (60-70%), Koreans, Turks, Inuits and Mongols
are Tungusic peoples. So, where did the Tungusic people originate
from? So far I have never heard about them originating from China. |
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| Yusuf B Gursey |
| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:25 am |
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In sci.lang Makoto Taniguchi <bartron2k2@hotmail.com> wrote in <195ad9c0.0401192325.28a3112b@posting.google.com>:
: Supposedly, the Japanese (60-70%), Koreans, Turks, Inuits and Mongols
: are Tungusic peoples. So, where did the Tungusic people originate
: from? So far I have never heard about them originating from China.
according to one scenario proto-Korean - Japanese is an offshoot from
Tungusic (or related to it or the broader family, if these are correct),
and incl. Turkic and Mongolic these form Altaic. Eskimo (it's still used
for the language group) form part of (together with Aleut) another family
that may be related to this only in Nostratic / Eurasiatic type scenarios.
this relates to languages not "people (genetics)". I dunno about the
genetics angle. |
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| Paavo P |
| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:21 am |
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"Makoto Taniguchi" <bartron2k2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:195ad9c0.0401192325.28a3112b@posting.google.com...
Quote: Supposedly, the Japanese (60-70%), Koreans, Turks, Inuits and Mongols
are Tungusic peoples. So, where did the Tungusic people originate
from? So far I have never heard about them originating from China.
There's several genetic layers in each population, which can be from
different directions each.
For example 22 % percents of DNA of Finns and Balts has the same source than
main tungusic dna.
Japanese has these genes it is because there has been Chinese and Korean
immigrant in Japan during the couple latest millennia.
Chinese and Korean populations has got their genes partly from that
population whose direct descendant Tungusic peoples nowadays are.
But none of these facts tells about genetic relationship of these languages!
But, genetics of central north Asian population and typological attributes
of Uralic (yeah!), Mongolic, Tungusic and Turkic languages are pointing that
these proto-languages (or their direct ancestors) were spoken near each
other. This gives one problem: how and when did predecessor of Uralic
proto-language introduced on area west of Ural mountains. The best
possibility is that it came with ceramics to Lyalovo culture and expanded
from there to whole area Lyalovo cultural center was shadowing. |
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| Peter T. Daniels |
| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:30 am |
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Makoto Taniguchi wrote:
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Supposedly, the Japanese (60-70%), Koreans, Turks, Inuits and Mongols
are Tungusic peoples. So, where did the Tungusic people originate
from? So far I have never heard about them originating from China.
Why would you ask such a question in sci.lang?
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Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net |
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| Tuvok Malawi |
| Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:25 am |
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bartron2k2@hotmail.com (Makoto Taniguchi) wrote in message news:<195ad9c0.0401192325.28a3112b@posting.google.com>...
Quote: Supposedly, the Japanese (60-70%), Koreans, Turks, Inuits and Mongols
are Tungusic peoples. So, where did the Tungusic people originate
from? So far I have never heard about them originating from China.
The Tungusic language group is found in Siberia and Manchuria in
China. The Even and Evenki are Tungusic and so were the Manchus who
ruled China. Together with Mongol and Turkic it forms the Altaic
family.
Tuvok Malawi. |
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