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| seeker |
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A question:
Is there a general relationship which describes the number of
people in the poverty class of our economy with respect to the number
of affluent? Does the excess wealth of the rich generate a certain
number of poor for each member of the rich class? How effectively does
a middle class buffer the unbalanced growth of the poor or rich classes? |
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| seeker |
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:00 pm |
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If the institutions create rich and poor,what about those who control
the agendas of the institutions? |
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| seeker |
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:03 pm |
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But who controls agendas of institutions but a powerful core at the
center of each one?? Who makes up the core? It seems somewhat unlikely
the poor are at the core |
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| seeker |
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:21 pm |
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If the sinstitutions create rich and poor,what about those who control
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| seeker |
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:23 pm |
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If the institutions create rich and poor,what about those who control
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| seeker |
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:02 pm |
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If the institutions create rich and poor,what about those who control
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| Guest |
| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:29 am |
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On 3 Nov 2005 14:00:47 -0800, "seeker" <mothman20052002@yahoo.com>
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[quote:e9fbad00e2]If the institutions create rich and poor,what about those who control
the agendas of the institutions?
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They are unlikely to be the poor....
-- Roy L |
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| The Trucker |
| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:38 pm |
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<royls@telus.net> wrote in message
news:436af1be.63149320@news1.qc.sympatico.ca...
[quote:f006bff53e]On 3 Nov 2005 14:00:47 -0800, "seeker" <mothman20052002@yahoo.com
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If the institutions create rich and poor,what about those who control
the agendas of the institutions?
They are unlikely to be the poor....
[/quote:f006bff53e]
And unlikely to be middle class: In 1910 there was one
vote in the House of Representatives for every 35K
voters. I have talked with older people that actually
had more than one meeting with their congressman
in a given year. That kind of representation is no
longer the case. Only the very well healed and the
very well paid lobby have such access. According
to the US Constitution the House of Representatives
actually controls the government of the USA.. We
do not have an elected king and the common people
are supposed to "control the agendas of the
institutions" through their elected representatives
in the House of Representatives. The House has
"the power of the purse". At present there
is one representative for every 450K voters. That
is NOT a representative form of government unless
you only want to represent the lobby and the
rich.
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"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org |
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| The Trucker |
| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:40 pm |
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"seeker" <mothman20052002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131055245.668566.185430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quote:24ef65566a]If the institutions create rich and poor,what about those who control
the agendas of the institutions?
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Ah don't get no respect! http://GreaterVoice.org
Read it.
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"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org |
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| Jim Blair |
| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:24 pm |
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"seeker" <mothman20052002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[quote:3915e25465]A question:
Is there a general relationship which describes the number of
people in the poverty class of our economy with respect to the number
of affluent?
[/quote:3915e25465]
Hi,
That all depends on how you define "poor" and "poverty".
[quote:3915e25465].....Does the excess wealth of the rich generate a certain
number of poor for each member of the rich class?
[/quote:3915e25465]
If you define the top 10% as "rich" and the bottom 10% as "poor" (using
either assets or income) then sure, each rich requires one poor. Or vice
versa.
[quote:3915e25465]....How effectively does
a middle class buffer the unbalanced growth of the poor or rich classes?
[/quote:3915e25465]
Just define the middle 60% as being the "middle class".....
But seriously, the result depends on the definitions.
http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/4834/poverty2.txt
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