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Guest
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:53 am
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:30:55 GMT, "Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote:

[quote:86162acd28]Galloway is a proven liar, what Hitchens called him in the debate.
[/quote:86162acd28]
Lie.

What follows is a transparent smear job lacking any solid proof of its
allegations. Galloway annihilated Hitchens in open debate, and
Hitchens is now clearly ready to obfuscate, fabricate and prevaricate
to try and get even -- or just to save face.

Disgraceful.

-- Roy L
 
Gogarty
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:49 am
Guest
In article <436c4810.64932451@news1.qc.sympatico.ca>, royls@telus.net
says...
[quote:16b1cb066a]

On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:30:55 GMT, "Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote:

Galloway is a proven liar, what Hitchens called him in the debate.

Lie.

What follows is a transparent smear job lacking any solid proof of its
allegations. Galloway annihilated Hitchens in open debate, and
Hitchens is now clearly ready to obfuscate, fabricate and prevaricate
to try and get even -- or just to save face.

Disgraceful.

Hitchens is an arrogant megatwit.[/quote:16b1cb066a]
 
Les Cargill
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:19 pm
Guest
royls@telus.net wrote:

[quote:e92c772469]On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:30:55 GMT, "Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote:


Galloway is a proven liar, what Hitchens called him in the debate.


Lie.

What follows is a transparent smear job lacking any solid proof of its
allegations. Galloway annihilated Hitchens in open debate,
[/quote:e92c772469]
??? Galloway said nothing of consequence. He coughed
up a few bumper stickers for the crowd. He made
a few references to Hitchens well publicized
"conversion".

To be fair, Hitchens didn't say too much either, but
it was at least *something*.

[quote:e92c772469]and
Hitchens is now clearly ready to obfuscate, fabricate and prevaricate
to try and get even -- or just to save face.

Disgraceful.
[/quote:e92c772469]
This is, anyway:

http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/PSIREPORTGallowayOct05FINAL.pdf

[quote:e92c772469]
-- Roy L
[/quote:e92c772469]
--
Les Cargill
 
Jim Blair
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:15 pm
Guest
<royls@telus.net> wrote in message
news:436c4810.64932451@news1.qc.sympatico.ca...
[quote:cab9f19d89]On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:30:55 GMT, "Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote:

Galloway is a proven liar, what Hitchens called him in the debate.

Lie.

What follows is a transparent smear job lacking any solid proof of its
allegations.
[/quote:cab9f19d89]
Hi,

T ransparent smear job lacking any solid proof . Do you mean this?

http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/PSIREPORTGallowayOct05FINAL.pdf


[quote:cab9f19d89]......Galloway annihilated Hitchens in open debate,
[/quote:cab9f19d89]
The issue is not the relative debating skills of Galloway and Hitchens.

[quote:cab9f19d89]....and
Hitchens is now clearly ready to obfuscate, fabricate and prevaricate
to try and get even -- or just to save face.
[/quote:cab9f19d89]
But is the US Senate report accurate?
[quote:cab9f19d89]
Disgraceful.

-- Roy L
[/quote:cab9f19d89]
I agree. But who is disgraced?



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Guest
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:39 pm
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 11:15:45 -0600, "Jim Blair" <jeb@wisc.edu> wrote:

[quote:8662208154]royls@telus.net> wrote in message
news:436c4810.64932451@news1.qc.sympatico.ca...
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:30:55 GMT, "Taylor" <123@456.com> wrote:

Galloway is a proven liar, what Hitchens called him in the debate.

Lie.

What follows is a transparent smear job lacking any solid proof of its
allegations.

T ransparent smear job lacking any solid proof . Do you mean this?

http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/PSIREPORTGallowayOct05FINAL.pdf
[/quote:8662208154]
That one's much more opaque.

[quote:8662208154]......Galloway annihilated Hitchens in open debate,

The issue is not the relative debating skills of Galloway and Hitchens.
[/quote:8662208154]
Right. The issue is that Galloway also exposed the US Senate as a
gang of bone-headed international bullies, bunglers and liars, and
they are out for revenge, no matter how many financial records have to
be forged, no matter how much perjury suborned.

[quote:8662208154]....and
Hitchens is now clearly ready to obfuscate, fabricate and prevaricate
to try and get even -- or just to save face.

But is the US Senate report accurate?
[/quote:8662208154]
No, it isn't. For one thing, it calls the Mariam Appeal Galloway's
political campaign, clearly a flat-out lie.

Has the US Senate been right about _anything_ regarding Iraq?

Maybe instead of obsessively trying to frame Galloway, the US Senate
should spare a small fraction of its attention for the shady US
corporations that took _orders_of_magnitude_ more money out of the Oil
for Food program, and gave it to Bush.

[quote:8662208154]Disgraceful.

I agree. But who is disgraced?
[/quote:8662208154]
Hehe. When the first forgeries are exposed, you make better ones.
When the first witnesses recant, you get more easily frightened ones.

Don't you get it? The Senate has _already_been_caught_lying_ in its
attempts to get Galloway. Forged evidence against him has _already_
been exposed. The US Senate can _never_ be in the right about this
issue, even if Galloway is guilty as hell. And there is clearly no
lack of US citizens and corporations that are far guiltier than
Galloway for the Senate to train its inquisitorial powers on.

-- Roy L
 
Les Cargill
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:20 pm
Guest
royls@telus.net wrote:

<snip>
[quote:cd3361a16d]Hehe. When the first forgeries are exposed, you make better ones.
When the first witnesses recant, you get more easily frightened ones.

Don't you get it? The Senate has _already_been_caught_lying_ in its
attempts to get Galloway. Forged evidence against him has _already_
been exposed.
[/quote:cd3361a16d]
Where? The only "forged evidence" story has been about
yellowcake stuff ( and it's not clear *that*
was "forged" ).

Oh, I forgot about the "Socialist Worker". Paragon
of journalistic integrity, that. People actually
put out a paper called "The Socialist Worker"
in 2005? Maybe it's a sort of political Amish
thing - "we live in the past". I dunno.

[quote:cd3361a16d]The US Senate can _never_ be in the right about this
issue, even if Galloway is guilty as hell.
[/quote:cd3361a16d]
Now that is one bizarro sentence construction, right
there. Roy, In Real Life ( as opposed to Usenet ) ad
hominem doesn't work.

[quote:cd3361a16d]And there is clearly no
lack of US citizens and corporations that are far guiltier than
Galloway for the Senate to train its inquisitorial powers on.

-- Roy L
[/quote:cd3361a16d]
Ach. It's a Konspiracy! We're DOOOOOMED!

Of course they're felonious. They're property-loving
Murkins. It's obviously time to call the Queen and
re-invade, then?

--
Les Cargill
 
 
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